Linux Opera Beta Released
Mal_ writes "The first alpha version of Opera for Linux has been released. There are still a number of key features missing, but rendering of HTML 3.2 and 4.0, and CSS is apparently working. The release is binary only, and requires GLIBC 2.1 and kernel 2.2.*, although the team are working on several other Unix ports.
You can get more info and download the binary at the Opera Web Site. " Update: 01/05 03:00 by N : Reports are coming in that this beta also works under FreeBSD's Linux ABI. Chris Piazza has made this screenshot available.
This really ought to get directed to Ulrich Drepper; that could provide a straighter answer as to whether the problem represents:
- A serious problem with GLIBC 2.1
- A serious problem with an interaction between GLIBC 2.1 and Linux
- A serious problem with the understanding that the developers have of POSIX and/or ANSI C that causes these "unexplainable anomalies" to be "unexplainable."
After the number of other misunderstandings that I've seen of versions of LIBC, I somewhat suspect the third option, although there's not enough evidence to strongly support any position. Best to contact Ulrich with a test case.(In other words, they might be misusing file pointers or close() and the anomalies would thus be their fault.)
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No offence to the Opera guys, but I gave the page a quick glance and from what I can tell it's way behind what Mozilla can do right now. And Mozilla is improving fast. And its open source. My question is, what exactly is the market place for Opera. Yes, I know choice is good. But in this case I can't see that it would be a sensible choice.
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Read the FAQ, the list of problems this release has scared me off :) Slow, takes long to load pages, leaves ini files all over the place, no thanks. I guess it's a technology preview, but you would imagine they would still have major stuff like this worked out. oh well, this comment was posted with the viewer_gtk from mozilla m12. A little viewer that certinly kicks some serious butt, so I'm happy for the moment. Finkployd
A) It's not a beta, it isn't even really an alpha, it's more or less a snapshot. /. story on this is here.
B} Opera don't want any feedback from this release, the Opera coders have more than enough to be getting on with. When they run out of bugs, they'll release a beta, then we can help.
C)If you do need some help or have some generic feedback (SDI, cough cough), try the Opera.linux newsgroups.
D) The previous
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I think I would like to use a browser that's more advanced than the version of netscape that I used in 1994. I bet that browser would run about as fast on modern hardware as opera does.
Opera For Linux 4.0a Can't:
Communicate via SSL or TLS
Submit forms other than through ecma script
Display Frames
Display Animated GIFS
Display PNG or TIFF images
Proxy Settings
Preferences only 20% working
Cookies
Local Files
No Plugin Support yet
Transfer window
HTTP Authorization
Proper Font Handling
Screen refresh
SDI
Asynchronous DNS
//Phizzy
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This is only a technology preview. This might even be considered pre-alpha software. I follow Opera very closely (I'm alpha/beta testing for the Mac port when it's ready). If it was beta-level I'd have let you all know 10 days ago, when I first heard about this. :)
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There are 'more free' solutions available, like
Mozilla, and indeed, lynx. The browser in KDE is
coming along nicely, and there are many browser
projects in need of some support.
Embracing non-free software solutions is a dead end.
But this is the same release, not a newer release. The binaries are byte-for-byte the same. So if you've already downloaded it once, there's no need to re-download it.
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