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Interview with Tribsoft
Christian Schaller wrote to us with an interview running on Linuxpower.org that talks with the folks at TribSoft. Tribsoft is the company responsible for the port of Jagged Alliance 2 to Linux - something that we've referred to before.
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I've spent way to much time not playing jagged. It hasn't kept me up late, man do I enjoy the sleep.
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You are all Cum Guzzling Queens
Thank You.
"Come on! Jon Katz may not be Hemingway"
He's not my lover either. How often does he grease your can to have you stand up for him?
I really liked his comments on IPOs... :-)
What??? Not company are going to switch to Linix and make game for Linux only??? Why the fuck should I see tons of positive headlines about Linux after being mocked and flamed my other Linux users on IRC??? As for my words: ASLONGASTHEYMAKELITTLEGAMESIWOULDENTMIND
With more and more companies porting games to linux, it does become interesting how well those ports are actually doing. As in, how well do they actually sell? Have any numbers ever been released on for instance the Loki ports?
i have an alliance between hot bowlf of grits and my pants. thank you.
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Thank you.
So now that gives me, what, like 3 games I can play on Linux?
.... you know I didn't mean it. Give me a kiss.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA you dumb turds!
Excuse me, I want to go play The Sims for a while.
C'mere, you
I want Jon Katz naked and petrified.
Creating a Direct3D version for another OS would be very possible actually. The ties to other OS code will be about the same as with OpenGL (which needs wgl). The whole API is clearly documented, and 'all' you would have to do is implemented the required COM interfaces and the capabilities you want to expose. And then ofcourse layer this onto some driverlayer. It's a fair amount of work, but this is more likely to happen as convincing most windows game developers to use CrapGL.
And this advice goes to virtually all Slashdot readers (yes, including myself).
Ford Unleashes Power of the Internet for Employees Around the World
Ford Chairman Bill Ford, UAW member Mike Rawson, UAW President Stephen P. Yokich; Ford Mustang program product analyst Toary Taylor, and Ford President and CEO Jac Nasser, at the news conference.
DETROIT, Feb. 3, 2000 - Ford Motor Company is taking a step forward to reach its vision of being on the leading edge of technology and connect more closely with its customers. In support of this vision, the company is announcing that eligible employees worldwide will be provided a computer, printer and Internet usage at home for a nominal fee.
"This program keeps Ford Motor Company and our worldwide team at the leading edge of e-business technology and skills," Ford Chief Executive Officer and President Jac Nasser said. "We're committed to serving consumers better by understanding how they think and act. Having a computer and Internet access in the home will accelerate the development of these skills, provide information across our business and offer opportunities to streamline our processes."
Spamming for Ford Motor Company!!!
I just woke up!!!
Chicken fuquer.
This is a marvelous day my freinds. Today I shall post my interview with the man himself, king of kings, our savior and freind - BABY JESUS!!!!!!
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My orginazation (TFBJ) caught up with Him in His manger-scene and interviewed him. Granted, its not that long as He had important things to do (such as bringing his love to the most PAGAN, IMMORAL, AND TROLLISH sight on the net - slashdot)
TFBJ: How large do you believe the market is for Linux games? Any particular data you are using to come to a figure?
I KNOW the market for Linux/GNU games is large...but only if they are ported by TFBJ to include religious greatness in my name. I am using my infinite wisdom.
TFBJ: How are you planning to handle the distribution of your products?
The games will distribute themselves. If you do not play these games, YOU WILL BURN IN HELL-FIRE FOR ETERNITY.
TFBJ: What are your feelings on your competition, such as Loki Entertainment Software?
Baby Jesus has no competition. There can be only one savior, and it is I. Loki Enterainment shall burn in Hell-Fire.
TFBJ: The game I am hoping to see released for Linux is Final Fantasy 8, any chance that you will fulfill my wish?
I will fulfill your every wish in the next life.
TFBJ: What language are you doing the port in? C? C++?
I have no use for such primitive lanuages such as C. I use mostly perl, java, and a smattering of GOD++ to save you.
TFBJ: What is your team's programming experience?
I am the son of God. That is enough.
TFBJ: Are you planning on going public soon?
I already am public. ACCEPT ME OR BURN IN HELL-FIRE!
TFBJ: Do you have open positions?
My holy anus shall not be violated by the likes of you!!!!!!!! BURN IN HELL-FIRE!!!!
At this point I was asked to leave the manger. In order to gain the respect of Baby Jesus, I shall troll even harder!
TROLLIN' FOR BABY JESUS
Ford Unleashes Power of the Internet for Employees Around the World
Ford Chairman Bill Ford, UAW member Mike Rawson, UAW President Stephen P. Yokich; Ford Mustang program product analyst Toary Taylor, and Ford President and CEO Jac Nasser, at the news conference.
DETROIT, Feb. 3, 2000 - Ford Motor Company is taking a step forward to reach its vision of being on the leading edge of technology and connect more closely with its customers. In support of this vision, the company is announcing that eligible employees worldwide will be provided a computer, printer and Internet usage at home for a nominal fee.
"This program keeps Ford Motor Company and our worldwide team at the leading edge of e-business technology and skills," Ford Chief Executive Officer and President Jac Nasser said. "We're committed to serving consumers better by understanding how they think and act. Having a computer and Internet access in the home will accelerate the development of these skills, provide information across our business and offer opportunities to streamline our processes."
Spamming for Ford Motor Company!!!
Games on Gnulix rewl!!!
Nigger
Good question! Why? Did someone do a survey and find that nerds wish to play games like this and myth. Man, I have yet to see a linux game that was interesting to me (same with all my geek friends). I dont really like action games (but could tolerate quake/unreal).. I'd love adventure games.. specially those from sierra? (old is gold). And lucasarts. Jagged my finger can rot in a shelf.
Ford Unleashes Power of the Internet for Employees Around the World
Ford Chairman Bill Ford, UAW member Mike Rawson, UAW President Stephen P. Yokich; Ford Mustang program product analyst Toary Taylor, and Ford President and CEO Jac Nasser, at the news conference.
DETROIT, Feb. 3, 2000 - Ford Motor Company is taking a step forward to reach its vision of being on the leading edge of technology and connect more closely with its customers. In support of this vision, the company is announcing that eligible employees worldwide will be provided a computer, printer and Internet usage at home for a nominal fee.
"This program keeps Ford Motor Company and our worldwide team at the leading edge of e-business technology and skills," Ford Chief Executive Officer and President Jac Nasser said. "We're committed to serving consumers better by understanding how they think and act. Having a computer and Internet access in the home will accelerate the development of these skills, provide information across our business and offer opportunities to streamline our processes."
Spamming for Ford Motor Company!!!
what do you have something better to do???
Ford Unleashes Power of the Internet for Employees Around the World
Ford Chairman Bill Ford, UAW member Mike Rawson, UAW President Stephen P. Yokich; Ford Mustang program product analyst Toary Taylor, and Ford President and CEO Jac Nasser, at the news conference.
DETROIT, Feb. 3, 2000 - Ford Motor Company is taking a step forward to reach its vision of being on the leading edge of technology and connect more closely with its customers. In support of this vision, the company is announcing that eligible employees worldwide will be provided a computer, printer and Internet usage at home for a nominal fee.
"This program keeps Ford Motor Company and our worldwide team at the leading edge of e-business technology and skills," Ford Chief Executive Officer and President Jac Nasser said. "We're committed to serving consumers better by understanding how they think and act. Having a computer and Internet access in the home will accelerate the development of these skills, provide information across our business and offer opportunities to streamline our processes."
Spamming for Ford Motor Company!!!
Michigan rewls!!!
Mr. Pinard,
You're great in Star Trek - The Next Generation! Don't listen to what those "old school" guys that like Kirk better. Hang in there, skipper! Or should I say "captain?" haha. c'mere, you, and give me a hug!
Chris,
You were the BEST part of Lethal Weapon IV! Don't listen to those artsy-fartsy critics! Hang in there, tough guy!
C'mere, you big turd you, and gimmie a peck on the cheek.
Only two and a half more hours of Troll Day!
... I mean, a kiss.
C'mere, you dumb turd, and give me some grits
Remember boys and girls,
Tomorrow is TrollDay.
1) banner guy
2) grits down pants guy
3) microsoft ascii guy
4) open source guy
5) raisins guy
6) naked and petrified guy
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>> The size of that section increases every month
the size of my erection increases every month. or there abouts.
But what does OHIO GOVERNOR BOB TAFT think about all of this?
I'm shocked and dismayed that Tribsoft never consulted him prior to engaging in wild sexual orgies and homoerotic activities.
Tribsoft, you just lost a customer.
Attention, I bear news which may affect the life of every man and woman who values free speech:
Bob Schmanski's Home Page has MOVED!
His web page is now at:
http://cegt201.bradley.edu/~bschmans/ind ex.html
You should be transferred there automatically, or you can go there manually. Please update your links.
until next Tuesday. This will be the first time EVER that I will WANT the weekend to be over.
Everyday is toll day here on Slapdash.
I don't really comprehend HOW you can Justify wasting a whole article in an effort to sparK yet another barrage of homoerotic, wArEz-dude, immature behavior.
I hope one day Slashdot, under the wary, watchful eye of OHIO GOVERNOR BOB TAFT, is able to filter out such tomfoolery.
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this takes trolling to a new level! nice work!
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Interestingly enough not very many of these spams have been moderated down. A conspiracy?
By A.A. Milne
Everything was rather quiet in the hundred acre wood. The trees whispered to each other as the wind rustled their leaves. Under a large oak tree, there lived Pooh bear. From inside Pooh's house, there came a steady bang...bang... bang!, that was making his honey jars rattle on the sideboard. The light came through the window, and in the evening sun Pooh raised the axe once more and brought it down on the tattered remains of Christopher Robin. "Why...won't... he...fit..." puffed Pooh to himself as the axe came down once more. There was a small pile of earth, and a hole next to it, which Pooh had hidden with his favourite rug. Christopher Robin, selfish prat that he was, didn't quite fit in the hole Pooh had dug, so instead of making it wider he had decided to hack Christopher Robin's legs off. "A far more sensible idea", thought Pooh, and hummed a little song to himself as he cut the last tendon and rammed the rest of the body in the hole, finally covering it up with the rug. "Always too bossy", thought Pooh, "Always too bossy, always grabbing me by the paw and saying 'Come on Pooh lets have an adventure' or 'Pooh you are silly!' in that affected cutesy spoilt brat voice, and his stupid little shorts - bastard!" Pooh had waited all afternoon for Christopher Robin to come round, humming a little tuneless song to himself whilst gazing blankly into the fire and fondling the oaken handle of the axe. When C.R. had finally turned up, squeaking in his child-actor voice "Come on Pooh! Open Up!", Pooh had answered the door normal as anything, talked about the weather, and then went to the cupboard and fetched the axe. While C.R. had sat there, prattling on about what a silly bear Pooh was and how he had very little brain (which wound Pooh up no end) Pooh had raised the axe high and brought it down with a satisfying thud on Christopher Robin's skull, cleaving it virtually in two, with just some muscle fibre in place to keep the pieces upright, and freezing C.R's eyes wide in horror that Pooh, lovable Pooh, could do such a thing! Pooh giggled a little and wiped some saliva from his mouth with a shaky paw. Then Pooh, calm as anything, had mopped up the blood, washed the axe and begun to dig the hole. Piglet had wondered why Pooh had not called for him that morning, to have his tea and biscuits, and so he decided to visit Pooh instead. He admired the evening sun, blood red, and listened to the birds singing. Pooh watched him get nearer and nearer, and plugged in the drill. Piglet had no time to realise what had happened - the drill pierced his skull, sending a beautiful fountain of blood all over Pooh's orange hide. He rubbed the blood in and all over himself, licking, licking, always licking. Then he pulled Piglet inside and put him in the cupboard. The syringe lay on the sideboard, and Pooh picked it up, paws shaking and sweating, and filled it full of solution of the funny white powder that had been given to him by a strangely spaced-out Rabbit. It was a strange effect at first, and Pooh thought he had seen many strange things, but then experienced a euphoric feeling of power. It made him irritable, and C.R. and Piglet had everything that was coming to them, no doubt at all. When night had fully fallen, Pooh dragged the bodies out and buried them in a makeshift grave. "Adios, dear 'friends'", Pooh giggled, "Things are going to change around the 100-acre wood now I'm in charge" he laughed hysterically and went indoors. The next day Tigger and Roo made their way happily to Pooh's house, to see if he knew where C.R. and Piglet were, as no-one had seen them since yesterday. They were sure Pooh would know, as he had had tea with Piglet yesterday and was meant to be playing Pooh-sticks with C.R. in the morning. When they reached Pooh's house the door was wide open and Pooh was nowhere to be seen. Tigger and Roo looked inside Pooh's house and noticed a large hole in Pooh's floor and a notice was stuck on the wall with a large blob of congealing honey "OWT CHAGIG THE DRAGGN" (spelling had never been one of Pooh's strong points). "That's odd", though Tigger, "there are no dragons in the 100-acre wood only heffalumps. What _is_ that silly bear up to now?" Not even Tigger would have imagined what Pooh was up to at that moment. That morning Pooh had woken with a splitting headache and a rather snotty nose. So he had taken a large dose of the white powder and a little while later had a brilliant idea! He left the house with a container marked INSECTICIDE in big red letters. He took the container and went to Eeyor's favourite patch of thistles. "This will serve that manic depressive donkey right" laughed Pooh aloud, "always cheating at Pooh-sticks, cheats never prosper", Pooh said to himself. Then he hid behind a tree to watch the unsuspecting Eeyor eat himself to death - sheer poetic justice thought Pooh as he dumped the nearly dead body of Eeyor in the same grave as C.R. and Piglet - "Shouldn't cheat should you?", shouted Pooh as Eeyor's eyes stared with disbelief - "You're lucky I didn't chop you up into little bits and feed you to Tigger!", laughed Pooh manically, before he covered the makeshift grave over. Pooh didn't return to the house until dinner time as he was totally spaced out ll morning. So when he returned to his house he was in an awful mood and all he needed to make him absolutely mad was the sight of Tigger and Roo bouncing up and down outside his house singing "bouncy, bouncy, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, the wonderful....". "'Wonderful'?", thought Pooh aloud, "My foot, you'd think the writer of this shitty story could think up better lyrics for a song than that, and to think, they released the soundtrack album on cassette and CD; a lot of people are going to get ripped off." This lightened Pooh's mood somewhat, but the respite was brief. "What was that you said?", asked Roo. "God does he never stop asking pathetic questions?", Pooh thought furiously, "I'm going to have to deal with these prats as well. Is there no-one in this place with intelligence apart from me?" Pooh asked despairingly." Pooh felt himself extremely lucky as Roo had to go home for his afternoon sleep and that left Tigger at his mercy. Even better, Tigger suggested that himself and Pooh go and play Pooh-sticks; Pooh had smiled slyly as an idea formed in his overactive brain, and agreed - "What an opportunity", Pooh whispered to himself as he followed the innocent Tigger to the bridge. Once on the bridge, and the rather pointless game of Pooh-sticks was under way, Pooh thought he'd much rather push his stick up Tigger's arse, rather than throwing it into the stream. Tigger was leaning over the side of the bridge looking for his stick. So he did not see Pooh's wide horrific grin as he outstretched his arms and moved toward Tigger with the intent of pushing the stupid cat into the stream - "Cats hate water, tee hee, he'll drown." There was a loud splash as Tigger hit the water and started to struggle as his head was covered by water, he gulped and choked. Pooh was holding on to the rail of the bridge and jumping up and down with excitement and was joyously shouting at the drowning Tigger. "Why?", spluttered Tigger as he slowly started to turn blue with the cold, which Pooh found hysterical, after all a blue Tigger?? How absolutely silly. "I'll tell you why you bastard", screamed Pooh, "It serves you right, hiding behind doors and jumping out, and scaring the shit out of people." But Tigger did not hear Pooh's answer as he was already floating downstream face down in the water, dead - "Good riddance", laughed Pooh, and looked at his watch, "Still time to get that little dick head Roo before he wakes up." Pooh sneaked to the sleeping form of Roo's mum and saw Roo's ear poking out of her pouch - "Now I've got you, you little git", Pooh thought, smiling, as he threaded a needle with extra strong cotton. He was jolly grateful for Piglet's sewing lessons now, because he would be able to sew up Roo nice and tightly, so he would not be able to get out and his mum would not be able to rescue him. So very slowly and carefully Pooh began to sew Roo into his pouch and thereby suffocating the annoying idiotic twit. After the deed was done Pooh made his way back to his house wondering how Roo's mum would take the death of Roo. Badly, hoped Pooh, as he began to cough uncontrollably and felt general nausea overcome him. By the time Pooh got home he had puked up several times and was very desperate for some more of the white solution. He trembled as he picked up the syringe and gave himself the remaining amount. An awfully large amount, one might say, for a small little bear like Pooh. In fact too much, Pooh died of an overdose, but he died with a smile on his face: he was dreaming that he was the only teddy bear made with a willy and dreamed how he surprised Eeyor one day - but that's a story for another day. THE END
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look for a prog called GIFSCII, ya dumb turd you.
It doesn't run on Linux and it isn't open source, so it probably sucks, no?
heh. "no?" I'm from france.
Well, from what I remember back when I took a crash course in DirectX back when it was version 3, anything would be better!
Granted, this opinion is less valid now, but I sincerely hope developers move to more Open Standards. OpenGL is an open standard that has a standards group made of names in the industry.
DirectX is controlled by MS and goes where *they* want it to go. Now, can you tell me that their decisions are the best for the industry?
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Well, if the guy had anything to do with "news for nerds" or "stuff that matters", you'd have a point. JonKatz is neither.
Well, it sounds interesting. The interview doesn't actually say that much, but it's good to see another company trying this. I guess Loki is really the first game-porting success story, from which all others will be judged for a while.
I too, would love to see FF8 for Linux. Or Ultima 9, for that matter. (anyone played it? I know the system requirements are insane...)
Hopefully, as more shrink-wrapped games and apps for Linux come out, the (often non-existent) Linux section in the local software stores will grow and swell and make people say "What's that penguin?"
Linux: it's not just for bookstores anymore...
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Most Unices have a program called "banner" that can create the text-strips. As for the image-to-text stuff, see the previous poster or check out the pbm utilities, at, umm ... acme.com
When 80% of the COOL games come out on Linux, THEN I'll switch over to Linux for my gaming OS.
(Actually, as it is, I'll switch to whatever OS runs the game best that I'm playing right now. I've been known to keep an NT partition around for the Quake series games...)
InThane
Time: It's getting away from us! Somebody help while there's still time!
I don't think that Open Source games will be entire titles developed and distributed for free (beer or speech, your choice), but rather Open Source engines (CrystalSpace among others) that will be added to with a couple of libraries and maybe the core executable with the proprietary section being the images, story, characters (actors), audio and so on.
This would bring down the ROI for people to make games that were more content focused. People could still add on to engines or write there own to produce the Quake III's of the genre.
I think that this would open up the market, and allow for more experimentation, thus growing the market (hopefully) and allowing larger investments in riskier envelope expanding projects.
Just a couple of thoughts from an avid gamer
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Christian: Will you release your games for other Linux versions than Intel, like PowerPC or Sparc?
Personally I would like to target more processors. However it won't be a simple recompile.
We will release our games for Intel x86 based processor first. Maybe once JA2 is finished, we will look at the possibilities of making a PowerPC and maybe an Alpha version. The solution would be to have one programmer dedicated to porting games to different processor architectures since we already have enough work.
Excellent, but for some odd reason having to do wth the number of people who have an Alpha for a PC I don't see that last bit happening...
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One thing that I noticed was that his programming experience was certainly not involvement with game programming. However, it seems that he has a good understanding of what Linux users want and that they don't seem devoted to simply making a quick buck. It seems that they're here to get involved in having more games for Linux, as that is certainly a key fault with Linux. While there are plenty of games, there aren't so many big-name commercial games that most people know about.
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"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." - Thomas Jefferson
You seriously think that it is more likely that we'll see non-Windows Direct3D, than that people will stop using D3D and use another standard? Microsoft will never port DirectX to an OS they don't control, because DirectX is a large part of what keeps Windows the PC gaming OS of choice. And if anyone manages to reverse engineer it, I predict updates plained to create lots of work for the reverse engineers to keep up with official DirectX versions. Particularly seen I'd guess DirectX ties into other Windows specific APIs and features, non-Windows DirectX would probably be a nightmare.
No, I would hope to see people stop using DirectX for the same reason other proprietry standards have fallen from dominance - other standards with better features and interoperability look more attractive. In this particular case, as Linux and other OSes become more attractive markets for game companies, hopefully companies will realise that OpenGL makes for less development time for non-Windows versions of games, leaving DirectX to slowly die a natural death
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You want every game to have a linux port before you switch over? I think that's a little unreallistic, I mean windows doesn't have every game there is either.
I think a better, more reallistic goal (in the near future) is 80% or more. The way I see it, the more games that are ported to linux the less likely people are to decide not to use linux based on lack of games. So more people will come, and the user base will grow, more companies will port, more users will come... you get the idea. But I think that until Linux has about 30%+ of the desktop market, companies will not always consider it a neccesity to have a linux version available.
most games played today are either console games or games on windows
This is an interesting point... I don't consider console games in normal thought, as I do not own a console system (actually I have a Genesis that I haven't used in years...) I do all of my gaming on PC because of the nifty graphics and because I spend so much money on my PC that I'm not about to go out and buy a console system... but I think consoles will be around for a long time, and will probably hold a large part of the market regardless of linux ports. I don't feel that consoles will detract from linux ports. [[END RANT]]
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Come on! Jon Katz may not be Hemingway, but everytime he posts a 'rant' he starts a long /. argument. Arguments are a good thing on a discussion board, so I say let the man be.. Who knows, if you're nice to him, he might not put you in Geeks 2.0: Land of the Troll.
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Alright my next litle rant is going to be about my experiences about games under linux and as such does not exactly translate to 100% of the total experience that one would usually see in areas like this.
Whenever I run games on linux (almost any game except extremely simple stuff using standard curses/ncurses combinations) my machine tried to betray me. I have had extremely sluggish preformance for what games that are actually GPLed and such. It seems that the insidious minions of Orthodoxy have decided that some users are worthy of the mantle of playing games and some are not. My question is exactly how are things being made as backwards compatable and streamlined to allow a usable experience for everyone. Another little thing currently on my debian box I have nearly 20+ libraries that are needed by just one program that only serve that program or game. Why do all developers see that developing games to require the use or implimentation of a different set of libraries and a different philosophy about exactly how to code?
The results of these things have essentially been that you machine's resources are being wasted and wasted hard to run even a cheesy game badly.
My question is what makes this game so special in terms of it being ported to linux. Not being one of the monied few who has accewss to a NASA JPL mainframe to run these on what is so good about it.
I remember buying a game about around Christhmas time and it really sucked and didn't hardly offer most of what it promised. That was my most expensive and last purtchess in the game arena (it was called Pyro technica created by Gt Interactive if anyone wants to know).
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Ofcourse DirectX isn't just about 3D and graphics. It's also about inputs, networking, sound etc.
OpenGL is hardly a competitor to DirectX as a whole.
Jon Katz is the ultimate flamebait -- or is he a troll? I can't decide! If all Slashdot/Andover/VA cares about is page views, why don't CmdrTaco and Roblimo post nude photos of themselves? While they're at it, maybe they should be petrified, too -- we don't need them posting more JonKatz bullshit.
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The higher, the fewer.
That's why it is called, a dream. If it was reasonable... it wouldn't be a dream. On the other hand, if companies prove that linux is a viable commercial platform, there will be a shift to using more portable libraries.. OpenGl, SDL.
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So this is good and bad for the Linux platform. DirectX provides a common API for the most popular platform (Win32). It also provides acceptable performance.
So what does Linux need to get a foothold? Well, simply having more users won't quite do it. Consider how slow developers are in releasing Mac ports of games. And there are quite a few Mac users out there.
Whatever API that is used for Linux must be usable on Win32 also (at least, as long as Win32 is the dominant platform). Furthermore, it needs to be equal to, or easier to code for than DirectX. If it can get improved performance, even better. Finally, compiling a Linux version vs. a Win32 version must require almost no changes. When this is accomplished, you will see DirectX begin to take a back seat. I expect that XFree86 4.x will help the situation also, especially as more hardware vendors lend support.
Game developers will jump ship and toss old code out the window as soon as you show them something better. We rewrite code all the time, and we don't usually care about backwards compatibility.
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It would be so worth it for someone in the Linux community to do thism, despite the need to be playing catch up. Many projects commit to a version of DX (Whatever the newest one is at the time) and stick with it. Very rarely does a team change to a new version halfway throught the development cycle. A team won't want to re-code major sections of the engine due to changed interfaces. There are two ways that the interfaces will change.
The first is a change for the better. A sample of this would be the changes in D3D. Esp. from IDirect3D3 to IDirect3D7 with DX7. Before D3D3 and it's DrawPrimitive function it was a pain in the ass to learn the API. With DX7 it's so simple to get things set up that with 20 lines of code (plus skeleton) you can have a textured lit polygon up using hardware transforming and lighting (if supported).
The second type of change would be to change just to throw off the OpenSource developers off. Many game developers that I've worked with need to be dragged kicking and screaming when a new version comes out. Each time it means re-learning a whole bunch and a LOT of re-testing just to get some new features to work. I don't know very many people who are going to switch to a new DX interface with no benifit. It's just silly.
I'd guess DirectX ties into other Windows specific APIs and features, non-Windows DirectX would probably be a nightmare.
Yes and no... There are a few thing that DirectX and Windows tie into. The one that I'm thinking of is that you can lock a DirectDraw surface and use GDI on it (By grabbing a Device Context). I've only done this to use TextOut to a DD surface to display some debugging info. Nothing that I'd use in production code because it so SLOW. The freakin' docs tell you not to do it. (And D3D now has a method that takes a string parameter so you don't use GDI at all.) What I'm saying is: It's a small subset of the API set that many developers don't use.
So... I wouldn't hold my breath for DX to die a natural death. MS has actually done quite a good job of evolving it to be useful. D3D going from being a really crappy standard to being, IMHO, as good as OpenGL and MUCH easier to use.
Yeah yeah... Evil Empire... Not open source... Etc... Who cares? Not too many people care in the real world of Game Development. Game developers are going to do what's in thier own best interests and until it's economically feasable to use other platforms it won't happen. When that does happen expect developers to bail by the boat loads. (As we've all seen happen in the past.)Jagged Alliance was and is cool, will they port any more games? I hope so! ;) moeffju (First Post with my threshold? ;)
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Is every game ported to linux gonna be posted here? Isn't this really something that is better posted as part of a quickie? Linux games are getting more common. I don't see why they should be listed one at a time here.
"There is an enormous untapped market here of about 15 million users"
Unfortunately this number include servers and users that are not buying games. Anyway I don't mind since this job is simply too fun!
Mathieu Pinard
Tribsoft Inc.
Mathieu Pinard
Tribsoft Inc.
Get one.
I'm all for games on linux. It is just.. most games played today are either console games or games on windows. It would be great if every game would have a linux version aviable. When that happens, my gaming computer will switch over to linux, but for now it will remain as a windows box.
This may sound stupid but I'm actually interested in how you create these images using only text as your photo-mosaic element. It is quite impressive really. Is there some sort of program which I can download that will do this?
Please provide some info on this, it is really quite amazing.
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Christian: Are there something you really miss in regards to game development on Linux, like support for Force Feedback devices etc.?
My dream would be that game programmers would stop using Direct3D and DirectPlay.
My dream, on the other hand, would be that more people begin to understand how hard it is to change standards once they're established. Yes, it's unfortunate that so much code goes in that direction now, but since the trend is set, it is impossibly difficult to switch back. So, with the real world in mind, the only solution is porting the Direct3D, etc, engines rather than the games themselves. Fix the problem, not the solution.
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I'm glad to see that more and more companies are jumping on the Linux gaming bandwagon. There is an enormous untapped market here of about 15 million users, so if profits are an isue they should have nothing to worry about. Rejoice, geeks can play geeked verisons of their favorite games.
If a million monkeys randomly pounded on keyboards, they would all log into AOL.
Perhaps the primary problem with Linux games lies not in the core underlying kernel, or even with the small but robust and ever expanding driver availability, but something far more profound. As a longtime observer of /. and Linux in general, I have found that the primary reason that gaming software is so far behind on Linux stems from the utter lack of Tri Realistic Octagonal Level Leveraging Systems, or TROLLS. While the x86 graphics subroutines utilize the bicubic underlings of quadernians, TROLLS are not common enough on 133Mhz graphics buses. The resulting AGP bottleneck is a direct result of Graphics Routing Isolinear Transport Systems, otherwise known as GRITS. The TROLLS could easily eliminate GRITS, with the help of the Nil-Access Tesla Accumulation Linux Information Expresslink, coupled with the Pipeline-Overloading Reroute Transit Micro Alpha Network. Known together as NATALIE-PORTMAN. TROLLS are well known for wanting to merge sources with NATALIE-PORTMAN. I hope you find this interesting, and perhaps gives you greater insights into Linux game systems. General Chalupa