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Linus Interview

For New York City /.'ers, Linus Torvalds is on WBAI, 99.5 FM, starting right now, midnight, Feb. 9-10. The program lasts 90 minutes, but I don't know how long Linus will be on. Apparently it's a call-in type show. If you're unlucky enough not to live in New York, there's a RA stream of the radio broadcast available at http://www.wbaifree.org/.

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  1. Some quick notes I took by gutterface · · Score: 4

    Really rough notes, hopefully someone will fix it up and fill the gaps. THis was my first time hearing him. Thought he was really quite funny.

    Asks how many are linux users and how many just wandered in the street.
    Doesn't like to talk, he's a programmer.
    Been forced to be the poster boy of linux.
    forced to OSS, should be Stallman

    doesn't like softball questions,
    no questions, slideshow
    geared his speech to wall street, all the audience linux users

    fragmentation is bogeyman of unix, when is linux fragemnation...
    infighting between unix vendors, instead of improving code
    lost the market

    fragmentation is not so bad [good vs bad fragmentation]
    -linux succeeded in supercomputer, to small and feeble [computers]
    -succeeded in internationalization

    supercomputers look like fridges
    linux runs on supercomputers and fridges
    talks about a web browser on a fridge, prevents people from getting people fatter
    fragmentation allows supercomputer linux vendors and fridge linux vendors

    everyone saying java is dying [missed why he said that]
    modularity, modularity, modularity
    bad fragmenation: technical fragmentation
    don't improve fridge linux, improve the base linux
    linux is anti-fragmenting, forces everyone to live together, even if they don't want too
    community, community, community: forces companies to go to great lengths to avoid looking bad
    in front of the community

    more high-brow values? not a clash between community and companies... companies have values (the
    better ones) linux is not supposed to be anti-commercial... pt of linux, nice to use and control
    what they're using.... every good company should do this cuz of happy customers

    exchange of ideas has worked in science (end of shamanism), should work for comp.sci
    programs written by shamans, now a better system

    technology for technology sake isn't very good, lose sight ... commercial community brings
    another perspective ... linux was good technology, interesting, but not very good... vendors
    have helped linux become a system people want to use

    much of the work done is in userland... prettier, easier to use, linus hasn't worked on it, he doesn't
    know pretty if it hit him on the head

    new devices, new bugs, commercial people do the boring stuff
    talked about the "development kernel" so it took long to make it productized
    doesn't want to be long between releases

    linux 2.4 next version of kernel:
    balance between servers and small computers
    pre-phase, going back to California and start pre 2.4
    only bug fixes, expects to take a few months

    filesystem, infrastructure reworked - scaling
    "got asses kicked on some benchmarking"
    some mobile stuff/transmetta and making linux friendlier to these

    3-d stuff for supposedly CAD, really for games

    Audience questions:
    Q. some cable magazine guy: linux on settops, cable a major player for linux?
    A. was not a fan for special applications, but now realizes that special applications (doing
    one thing) is the way to go. Linux is suited because of modularity and open source
    though his crystal ball is broken for last 9 yrs
    open model is good for embedded devices

    Q. linuxsecurity.com lack of journaling filesystem and the different standards
    A. wonderful world of standards! 2 filesystems that are production quality, vendors are already
    ... let them battle out, often it's timing (perfect)... standards should be driven by market
    forces

    Q. Bruce Perrens, he wants to play DVD
    A. doesn't like the dvd situation; DVD wants to control the market by locking them
    ... hopes they lose the court case, he watches dvd himself
    out of the technical people's hands

    --
    gutterface