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Informix Native FreeBSD Port
AC wrote in to say, "It seems that Informix are considering a port
to FreeBSD. Cindy Munns at Informix has written to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
asking for people interested in a port to e-mail her with your name, your
company, the number of users, and so on." I've seen this message,
but it doesn't seem to have hit Deja yet. However, I've tracked down
a variant from Cindy in comp.databases.informix. Informix
for Linux already works under FreeBSD's Linux ABI, but it's great that
they're considering a native version. And remember, there's no point
mailing them if you're not genuinely interested...
'Bout time@!#
Why would you want more commercial software? I don't get it. Please explain why you don't use free software?
If only more companies would start going around asking alternative OS users if they would like a port.........
This shouldn't take too much work, right guys?
;)
(remember "I just typed 'make'"?
Linux could use to learn a thing or two from this... Wouldn't it be great when people said "We're considering doing a Linux port of XYZ Commercial Software", it ran on platforms besides x86? Now, a lot of apps do, but there's nothing wrong with a few more.
Being locked permanently into x86 binary compatibility would suck (although the Crusoe sounds pretty cool here), just as being locked into Linux binary comatibility would suck.
It reminds me of a fortune (the specs are somewhat dated, but multiply by the relevant ones by 16 or so and bear with me):
Imagine that Cray computer decides to make a personal computer. It has
a 150 MHz processor, 200 megabytes of RAM, 1500 megabytes of disk
storage, a screen resolution of 4096 x 4096 pixels, relies entirely on
voice recognition for input, fits in your shirt pocket and costs $300.
What's the first question that the computer community asks?
"Is it PC compatible?"
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I'm glad someone's starting to test the BSD waters. Far too many companies are ignoring the popular UNIX variants and just putting all their efforts into Linux. I'm all for diversity among operating systems, and so I notice there is simply too much attention given to one platform. Finally, someone's starting to notice the world doesn't revolve around either Linux or Windows.
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Remember when "Truth, Justice, & the American Way" wasn't contradictory?
IMO.
The best part about commercial software providers wanting to port to FreeBSD is that it makes porting to Darwin and MacOS X from there practically trivial, especially for server apps.
This can only be a Good Thing. I truly believe that "Unix for the masses" -- both in terms of actual ease-of-use and total installed base -- is going to come from Apple first; then GNU/Linux and the BSD's will rapidly improve on what they've accomplished, and Global Domination will come that much sooner.
--Anonymous cowards are working on a massively multiplayer persistent shared immersive reality based on open standards and globally distributed free servers.
One of the most cynical deals recently involves the merger of two software companies trying to cash in on the Linux operating system craze: Andover.net Inc. of Acton, Mass., and VA Linux Systems Inc. of Sunnyvale, Calif.--which went public within 24 hours of each other back in early December. Less than eight weeks later, on Feb. 3, the two companies announced a stock-for-stock merger in which the California company has agreed to acquire the Massachusetts crowd for about 6 million shares of VA Linux and $60 million in cash. The cynicism in the transaction is not simply that the deal took place so shockingly soon after the two companies wrapped up their I.P.O.'s, but that the transaction included what amounted to a legalized bribe on the part of the VA Linux bunch to get the Andover.net crowd to accept the offer. The deal means that the $60 million in cash from VA Linux will go directly to Andover.net's shareholders, at $3.81 per share, in effect handing over the same amount of money Andover.net raised in the I.P.O. only weeks earlier. Prior to the I.P.O., the company's insiders had only paid a grand total of $15.7 million in cash into the company. Now they are being handed back $60 million as compensation. What a deal. As for investors in VA Linux, they are getting hosed. The company's stock was priced in the I.P.O. at $30 per share, but opened for trading at $299 and instantly shot to $320, then collapsed like many of the others and eight weeks later is now selling for $110. Faced with 39.7 million total shares outstanding already--of which only 4.4 million are held by the general public--investors in the stock can now look forward to the imminent registration of 4 million more shares by the company, which will doubtless come pouring into the market soon thereafter, thanks to the Andover.net deal. In other words, the only really valuable asset Andover.net ever had--its cash from the I.P.O.--was creamed off by the company's insiders almost the very instant they got their hands on it, leaving VA Linux's shareholders to face a 100 percent increase in the float of their own stock for the privilege of winding up with the worthless trash that the Andover.net bunch dumped at the very first opportunity.
Considering that BSD has 14 years on Linux, seems to me more that Linix the newcomer recently fragmenting the market.
How compatible are BSD and Linux at the source code level? What about the BSDs themselves? Do they all support the same basic interfaces and drivers?
Does anyone have experience with porting large amounts of software from Linux to BSD or vice-versa?
bleh.
by this argument, we should all be using sysV or whatever.
How does BSD "steal from linux"? Anyone selling non-free BSD software will probably port it to linux, because the linux market is so much bigger. On the other hand, any free software which is written for BSD can be adapted to Linux.
Free unices are (pretty much) source-compatible. By expanding the free unix market, BSD attracts more free software development, which *helps* linux.
perl -e 'fork||print for split//,"hahahaha"'
A BDS article that wasen't shunted off to the corner to die all alone with like 5 people seeing it!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!
*sarcasm*We all "know" that Star Wars rumors about a rumor are far more newsworthy and any possible BSD article.*/sarcasm*
For a while there I thought Slashdot was turning into a Linux only show, a la VA "Linux."
is it something new?
i want OpenBDS! NetBDS! FreeBDS!!!!!!!!!!
OPEN SOURCE BDS!!!!
Let's say that BSD is working under Linux. As for anexample for changing that, The Devil is f*cking the Pinguin. How understandable is that?
i think there was a t-shirt based around that theme...
I never explained any merits. There are jerks in BSD, just as there are in Linux land, except the BSD jerks don't call me foul filthy names when I don't agree with their particular politics.
the little sense I can make out of it is offtopic.
Were talking about porting an app to another os
platform, there's nothing related to the chip
or hardware platform in the matter at hand.
Who's the jackass who's vaguely moderating this crap?
The Mainstream media havent discovered *BSD yet, simple as that. Driven by all the coverage and the "Windows alternative" hype, Linux distributors have done their best to make Linux installable by means of of 5 mouse clicks. They are leaving your disk cluttered with hundreds of packages that you just dont need, running dozens of processes you dont know, and start up in a twisted fashion noone can comprehend. To turn such a Linux box into a respectable server, youll have to work your way through all those SysV-Init scripts, which are being filled with variables from nebulous places, to finally disable the daemons you dont need. When youve done that, a fresh FreeBSD install will look so clean to you, it will instantly turn you into a believer.
Linux may make a nice Workstation, but on the server side, Ive made the change to BSD:
gee, my bsd runs all your binaries. it does sco, too (yeah! foxpro for unix!). I'd agree we can make a better OS, it just isn't linux.
And Linus says fragmentation is OK.
He said that at LinuxWorld.
If it was said on slashdot, it MUST be true!
We used Universal Server on Solaris some time ago. It has serious flaws in handling blob colums. Don't use it!
What a scandalous twisting of history.
FreeBSD and BSD in general is much odler than Linux.
Both Linux and FreeBSD use lots of GNU stuff. However, FreeBSD doesn't use much Linux-specific (i.e. non GNU) stuff. OTOH, Linux uses lots of BSD stuff such as drivers, networking tools etc. If anyone has stolen from anyone, Linux stole from FreeBSD, not the other way round.
I prefer not to think in terms of stealing however. It is just reuse. It is very wise of Linux to reuse things that already exist instead of reinventing the wheel.
Also, UNIX prospers for 30 years now and has grown so string because there are different version competing with each other. It is the evolutionary approach. If only one single UNIX would survive, I'm sure it would die soon because of incest.
This thinking like "unify, conquer the world, fighting for domination" etc is 100% contradictory to the UNIX way, and is typical for Linux newbies/fanatics. It only hurts the "good cause".
It's comments like that from Linus that lead to Distro Hell, along the road paved with AOL CDs.
I'm not trying to start an argument here, but there are two equally valid schools of thought... (a) that fragmentation is good, (b) that fragmentation is bad.
What a scandalous twisting of history. FreeBSD and BSD in general is much odler than Linux.
Not to disillusion you, but no. *BSD is older than Linux. Linux is older than FreeBSD. Any questions?
When people ask that, they really mean "is it Windows compatible?" There could be a Dragonball processor inside PCs, the average person doesn't know, doesn't care, and doesn't want to know/care. If Windows ran on it and all their apps looked and worked the same, it would still be a "PC" to them and they'd be oblivious to it.
Quit fragmenting the *nix world. Join us. Together we can make a unified and better OS. MS is on top because we fight and bicker amongst ourselves and have many incompatibilities between us.
Linux is like a 3rd party Presidential candidate that can never actually win but can only hurt one of the real candidates by taking away votes from one and enabling the other to win. Just as Linux steals from BSD and helps MS as a result.
The age of every line of code used in the BSDs are much higher than the code in linux.
So it's much older, though the FreeBSD project is a youngster.
> by this argument, we should all be using sysV or whatever.
"whatever" - maybe
"sysV" - no, BSD (first distribution 1978/79) is older than System V (1983), wich was strongly influenced by BSD BTW.
I decided to try FreeBSD recently. At first I wanted a dual boot machine, but gave up because the two couldn't agree on disk partitioning (I have two SCSI drives). Then I decided to go with FreeBSD, since "it can run Linux binaries". The first Linux program I tried was xcdroast. I finally got all the libraries it required loaded (tix, Tk, tcl), and tried it. The result: Segmentation fault: core dumped. Oh well, back to Slackware 7.0 I guess.
yadda, yadda, yadda
installed something
yadda, yadda, yadda
didn't worked immediatly
yadda, yadda, yadda
Linux is bad, back to BSD I guess.
A quick www.remarq.com search got me the post. Here: is the short script
-d
he tried to install one app and gave up thinking it was the fault of the OS.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
by this argument, we should all be using {YUCK} Windows NT {/YUCK} ;-)
Tigers respect lions, elephants and hippos. Maggots respect no one. (C) S. Dovlatov
I emailed Cindy this morning and she replied by this afternoon. I'm definitely an open-source supporter and run Linux and FreeBSD in my organization. I'd love to have Informix available as a native port to replace an expensive Informix-on-IBM RS6000 server that needs upgrading to a faster CPU. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux and use it extensively, but I've ran Linux side by side with FreeBSD on nearly identical hardware in my shop, and FreeBSD really does beat Linux for reliability and performance by enough of a margin that I'd prefer it as a server. FreeBSD even rivals IBM's AIX for stability and since I prefer to use raw partitions (raw lv's on aix) for my Informix dbspace chunks, I won't even miss losing AIX's nice LVM by migtrating to FreeBSD Informix database engine servers.
Nah, we'd all be using CP/M
;-)
make world, not war
- offtopic
- trollwork to distract people from trying FreeBSD
- FUD, it's no problem to dualboot *BSD and Linux, there are tons of How-Tos.
Since we are talking of FreeBSD:Go to www.freebd.org, goto "FAQ" and geep going on to "Installation", the question "Can I have more than one operation system on my PC?" and finaly to "the multi-OS page".
I'm no FreeBSD user, I don't know the FreeBSD web server very well, but I found that document in less than 2 minutes.
Ten thousand incensed Jews swarmed into New York City's Central Park where the man they hated most planned to speak in the "free forum area." The huge mob was swollen with overwrought people loudly screaming for his blood. They brandished lead pipes and pieces of broken pavement in the best Old Testament traditions of free speech. No one really expected him to show up in the face of such demented numbers, so the frothing Chosen turned the event into an anti-Nazi celebration. They clapped and sang "Havanaglia" and performed round-dances in the street. But at the height of their vengeful hysteria, at the appointed time, a big man standing tall and alone in the very midst of the insane rabble threw off his long, concealing overcoat. As if by black magic, George Lincoln Rockwell appeared in full Stormtrooper uniform in the eye of an emotional hurricane, surrounded by enemies too stunned to move. Incredibly, he began to taunt them, deriding them to their camel-faces as cowards and fugitives from lunatic asylums.
He had shown up , he said, at their request, so let's see how tough they really were. No one made a move against the formidable ex-U.S. Navy Commander. He strutted smiling among them, ridiculing their false promises to prevent his New York speech. It was a very personal confrontation between Aryan man and his Jewish opposites, between racial matter and anti-matter. An explosion was inevitable.
The Jews Go Nuts
Only by degrees did the Hebes belatedly psych themselves up to sufficient hysteria. In a convulsive, screaming lunge they fell on Commander Rockwell. But he had the psychological advantage of a larger-than life personal courage. In an utterly one-sided battle too incredible for anyone who has not actually witnessed or fought through such a moment, he bashed and throttled his way into the shrieking crowd. The grasping, spitting devils fell on all sides, as the lone hero of the White race cut a path of blood and broken bones across New York City. They never knocked him off his feet and he never tired of splitting enemy jaws.
Alarmed and inspired by such Hurculean bravery, a squad of policeman crashed into the howling throng swinging night sticks. Kosher casualties mounted rapidly, as the cops obviously relished their sport. They blazed a path of splattering gore to the ever-battling Rockwell, and escorted him over the blubbering bodies of fallen Jews. He emerged with only a few cuts and minor bruises. Even his uniform was in relatively good shape.
The Commander's Early Life
George Lincoln Rockwell had come a long way from his birthplace in central Illinois, on March 9th, 1918. To be sure, his youth was far removed from the battlefields of New York City. He yearned to become a successful commercial artist, an ambition fulfilled when he won first prize in a national competition for the Cancer Foundation. But the Second World War changed his plans forever. Volunteering as a U.S. Navy pilot even before America's official entry into the conflict, he was persuaded to believe with millions of other betrayed Americans that Adolf Hitler was getting ready to take over Coney Island and the Statue of Liberty. Decorated by war's end for combat duty against German U-boats, he re-enlisted for the Korean War, rising to the rank of Commander. While stationed in Iceland, he met and married a beautiful Nordic woman, with whom he raised a family in the 1950's.
But since the end of World War Two, Rockwell had grown increasingly troubled by the deteriorating condition of Western Civilization, the antidote for which he finally discovered in Mein Kampf. Aware at last of his real destiny, he founded the American Nazi Party, fulfilling a prophesy the führer made shortly before his death:
"The fight against the Jews will not be renewed first in Europe, but in the United States. Within twenty five years, the Americans will have begun to come to their senses about the Jewish Question."
The Fight Renewed
But in 1958, the American people were too complacent and self-satisfied for White Revolution. The nigger riots, economic chaos, cultural rot and Vietnam era treason of the 60's still lay before them. In spite of Gentile apathy, Rockwell's activism blasted to their consciousness through the "Paper Curtain", as he referred to the Jewish boycott in the newsmedia of all information about National Socialism.
Years of unrewarding sacrifice finally bore fruit with Black demonstrations onto Midwestern White working class neighborhoods. Riding the crest of popular resentment against forced integration, Commander Rockwell addressed large assemblies of his fellow White Americans, who for the first time showered him with the gratitude he deserved. "The Jews are Through in "72!", an often repeated slogan of the times, represented the high hopes then expressed for his bid for the presidency of the United States.
Rockwell's popularity near the close of the decade was such that he seemed bound to win the highest seat in the land someday. That, tragically, was also the consensus of the Jew System, and he was assassinated under circumstances still shrouded in mystery, in Arlington, Virginia.
Who was George Lincoln Rockwell?
Destiny certainly chose the ideal man to represent the postwar National Socialist Movement. Six feet, four inches tall, ruggedly handsome, athletic, alert and quick-witted, he was the quintessential American folk-hero in the same mold, physically at any rate, as John Wayne or Clark Gable, with a similar charismatic appeal the American soul most responds to. Indeed to some observers, he resembled a cross between James Garner and Tyrannosaurus Rex, particularly when in combat. Yet, for all his dynamism, he was a doting father figure and an absolutely loyal friend.
In the highest traditions of National Socialist leadership, he constantly hurled himself unhesitatingly among the enemy, who never failed to outnumber him. When the first Viet Cong flag was publicly paraded by a Yiddish Communist through the streets of Boston in 1956, Rockwell launched himself into the Marxist demonstration of traitors and fools to tear it down and go to jail for the kind of selfless patriotism no one else dared. As he said modestly of himself on such occasions, he was only trying to undo in a small way the damage he had done to National Socialism as a deceived American in World War Two.
Rockwell's Legacy
The enemies of the White race would like to pretend that George Lincoln Rockwell never existed. Certainly, they have done everything possible to expunge his name from American history. But their efforts continue to fail. His image and deeds are forever engraved in the hearts and memories of millions who lived through the turbulent decade of the Sixties. His writings and recorded spoken words continue to educate and inspire new generations of racial patriots.
Much as we mourn his passing, even after twenty five years, we know he did not die before his time, as does no man. It is, afterall, the fate of the greatest heroes not to die peacefully of old age, but to fall in their prime under the hatred of their enemies. Only in this manner may they live on forever in the folkish consciousness of our race.
George Lincoln Rockwell made every living National Socialist and those yet unborn incomparably richer for his having lived. He single-handedly lifted our banner from the ashes of Berlin into the skies of America. He represented our Idea in so personable, professional and winning a fashion, he made us proud to be a part of his struggle. We are honored to accept his legacy. In his name, sanctified by the blood of self-sacrifice, we shall use it to the fullest advantage!
A man's life is his noblest work. And if his work is carried on by those who survive him, he is not truly dead. Through us, Rockwell lives!
cause where would we be if all the dumbfucks who posted on Slashdot were moderated down. God, we might not actually see their posts.