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A Look At The PSX2 More on The Recall
cicatrix1 writes "According to this story at Daily Radar, the online stories about the Playstation 2 Memory Recall are false. Sony admitted to not being able to manufacture enough cards, but said that they all, in fact, work properly. " So, that means our recent story was true, as updated. As well, the folks at Core Magazine have got a look inside the machine.
>I am glad that the problem doesn't exist, but do we really care? The
>product is not available to us yet and by the time it is all of these
>issues will surely be fixed, that being said almost every decent game
>they release will also be released for the PC. Therefor why would you
>want to pay for the device when you could just pay for the game on
>your computer?
Have you seen the *IDOITIC* system requirements for PC games nowdays? Buying 1 $300-400 PlayStation 2 beats buying a $1000-2000 computer every 6 months kiddo....
(Did I just feed an energy creature?)
Thought it might be interesting to check out the article in the norwegian newspaper Nettavisen.
It seems Playstation 2 will be on sale in Norway within a few days at Smartshopper for 750$. They found a totally legal way of avoiding Japanese export regulations.
Feel free to moderate me down for being off topic and spoiling your tomorows news.
And this is the same problem as the DC -- manifested in a different way. On the DC bad discs froze the system, on the PS2 bad code overwrote its bounds.
This doesn't cover the overheat/freeze problems however. I suspect they need to further cool these puppies. DVD playback is still an issue.
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All I see on the core site is screenshots from a game. I want to see what's inside the box.
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...to protect their stock price. They had a full new product news (free advertising) blitz this last weekend, I haven't seen the bug report stories yet...
Playstation (mostly the games) accounts for 20% of Sony's overall revenue and 33% of their profits (according to those same news stories) The PS2 is a *big* deal for them and damage control is a very serious occupation around there right about now.
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Daily Radar's take. They don't give too many details, but few details is likely to satisfy a rumor-hungry horde where no details has failed.
"If one is really a superior person, the fact is likely to leak out without too much assistance" -- John Andrew Holmes
For those keeping score at home, there's at least one: rmager@vgkk.co.jp. I fail to see what you're responding to, however -- the summary didn't contain the word "us".
"If one is really a superior person, the fact is likely to leak out without too much assistance" -- John Andrew Holmes
Though this may seem like a biased report seeing as how it's a Nintendo related site, it's also IGN and they usually report accurate legit stuff. It would seem that if you look past the fill-rate capabilities of the PSX2, you run into some hardware limitations of a different kind.
Since that topic is sorta Dolphin related, some of you may want to check this other link as well...it would appear that a Dolphin release later this year isn't that far fetched after all.
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Don't be so arrogant as to assume that nobody from Japan reads Slashdot.
Some of us even care about things we will never own (mainframes, big unix boxen etc)- never mind only having to wait a few months.
Some of us can't afford to buy a PC that will run the latest games, wheras a console is a much more economical option.
That's actually very strange considering that I hardly see any homeless Japanese people (hell even in Europe for that matter) and that Japan has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world. Technically you can order a nice new state of the art computer (PIII and all that) for less than $900 from pricewatch I would also hazard a guess that they have similar deals in Japan. Plus a PC can do so much more than a console can.
Slashdot social engineering at it's finest
Has anyone even thought for a second that the memory cards may not be defective? The only game the screws with the cards is Ridge Racer V - Therefore, the problem is that Ridge Racer was badly programmed, and overwrites or corrupts the DVD playback software, case closed. If the memory cards don't screw up at any other time, then the cause of the problem is not the memory cards, but with Ridge Racer V!
Daily Radar sucks. But regardless, if you want import game news from a source that actually has reasons to take it seriously, check the what's new section on NCSX.com. They've confirmed the problems, they're considering halting sales of the console.
Which journalists?
/. merely provided a link. Slashdot say "this site says this thing", and link to the site.
As I recall, the site in question said "there are rumours circling the Internet that...", which was true.
So... no bad journalism there, just people who can't read, or who can't make value judgements about fact, opinion, conjecture.
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The recall may have been bogus, but the cards still have bugs. The Daily Radar reported that Sony denies the recall, but that the DR has replicated the bug that Sony vehemently denies exists.
So yesterday's story may have been not 100% accurate, but there still is a problem.
Have you seen the *IDOITIC* system requirements for PC games nowdays? Buying 1 $300-400 PlayStation 2 beats buying a $1000-2000 computer every 6 months kiddo....
Well I have stated similar concerns but people sweep them under the rug as rantings from a wacko and I get massarced. They are rediculous and could use some trimming down.
I however disagree with the price tag. Theoretically with new PCs upgradeability is something that can be more easily achieved without too much hassle.
Slashdot social engineering at it's finest
There may not have been a recall but the reports of problems w/ the cards seem to be legitimate. See Ike Sato's impressions of the PS2 @ videogames.com for a first hand account of some of the problems.
Daily Radar has experienced Ridge Racer V saved game files wiping out the PS2's DVD drivers. We were able to replace the old drivers using the Utilities disc, but the memory card bug is still a significant flaw that Sony has not yet addressed.
Apparently Sony is denying the problems. What I think is they shipped the cards, found the bug, managed to quickly fix the problem. However they are now having supply problems putting out enough of the fixed cards to meet demand. The delay in sales is simply to give them time to make enough of the new cards to be marketable.
The idea that they are simply short on cards is just BS, they just don't want to admit to making a mistake. If they were producing good cards to begin with, why would they stop selling? If I was them I'd keep selling, I don't see the point in halting shipping.
Before you start criticising Slashdot, note that the Slashdot story cited its (only) source, and provided a link to it.
It's up to us to decide how well we value that source.
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Don't be so arrogant as to assume that nobody from Japan reads Slashdot.
Some of us even care about things we will never own (mainframes, big unix boxen etc)- never mind only having to wait a few months.
Some of us can't afford to buy a PC that will run the latest games, wheras a console is a much more economical option.
But wasn't it a problem with the Japanese machines? SCEA shouldn't be bothered with this, as the console won't ship over there for months yet, hence the 'we're rectifying this' spiel. As far as I can tell, the problem of corruption with savegame files (RR5) is still a problem, and I think that that is far more damaging PR than a recall. Strictly speaking, if the component parts of Sony have some degree of independence from each other, who says that the Japanese arm has to tell the US arm that they're recalling?
This sounds like marketroid-speak for 'The first release machines are crocked in Japan, but don't worry about the US/Europe release'.
If you take the leading and final statement from the article (catenated above), then it seems that this press release contradicts itself more than it does the previous story, with marketing bumpf inbetween. Sounds more like face-saving and future-protection than a denial to me.
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