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The Mini-Quickies That Fell To Earth

johnathan spectre wrote in to tell us about these really cool plasma shoelaces. plasticPaddy wrote in to tell us about SkyBird, a nifty remote-control ornithopter. Fire up the flux capacitor, because feebeling wrote in about this WWW guide, circa 1993. seizer told us about some crazy guy TCP/IP tunneling through E-mail: now that's dedication. Speaking of crazy people, Green Monkey scared me with his submission, a Web site devoted to Pokémon butts. From the self-referential bucket, the Webby Awards have nominated Slashdot in the 'Community' and 'Print and Zines' categories. Go Vote and we get some trophy or something. _damnit_ wrote in with a nice little piece on the Ides of March. In case you're in the greater Boston area, Rob 'CmdrTaco' Malda will be speaking at the Geek Pride Festival at the end of the month.

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  1. Congradulations by smoondog · · Score: 3

    Congrats on the Webbie Nom. You guys deserve it. I'm sure you will win

    (Especially with all the /.'ers trying to hack the system.) :)
    -- Moondog

    1. Re:Congradulations by bughunter · · Score: 2
      You guys deserve it. I'm sure you will win

      Well, /. will win the community award, easy.

      (especially since that's the one all the hacking /.ers will stuff)

      But even I plan on voting for Salon in the magazine category. Honestly, it's better than most print magazines. And frequently, Slashdot articles point to Salon features. So there you go

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  2. Tux's Ass? by 10e+999 · · Score: 2

    Tux could pass as a pokemon, anyone got a picture of his ass?

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  3. Email Tunnel by retep · · Score: 3

    That TCP/IP over email tunnel sounds quite like the problems space stations and probes have.Often it will take many hours to get a reply back if the probe is far away. NASA has spent lots of research money trying to figure out ways to get past this by allowing the probes to do their work automatically. But supporting something like TCP/IP will always be impossible, TCP connections have problems on *any* high latency connection, even a high-speed satelite connection. To combat this both sides use large send and receive buffers to keep bandwidth up, that's what the Allow Large Windows Linux kernel option is for.

    1. Re:Email Tunnel by slashdot-terminal · · Score: 2

      That TCP/IP over email tunnel sounds quite like the problems space stations and probes have.Often it will take many hours to get a reply back if the probe is far away. NASA has spent lots of research money trying to figure out ways
      to get past this by allowing the probes to do their work automatically. But supporting something like TCP/IP will always be impossible, TCP connections have problems on *any* high latency connection, even a high-speed satelite
      connection. To combat this both sides use large send and receive buffers to keep bandwidth up, that's what the Allow Large Windows Linux kernel option is for.


      Perhaps a windows client? This would be a nice little tool where things like content filtering in Schools and libraries is often the norm.

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    2. Re:Email Tunnel by anotherone · · Score: 2

      unfortunatly e-mail is usually (in my experience) monitored as well.

      Make Seven

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    3. Re:Email Tunnel by Phrogman · · Score: 3

      Actually there is work being done on the Interplanetary Network Protocol (IPN) at this time. There is an article on it here and here (and yes, we suggested this story to Rob and the boys and got turned down for some reason). Its quite a fascinating task to tackle.

      Disclaimer: I work for spaceref.com just so you know...

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  4. Geek Pride? by Signal+11 · · Score: 3

    It won't be a march, it'll be a stampede! Just show Katz up onto the stage and it'll break out into rioting not seen since the democractic convention in chicago. The only other person I know of who could inspire such a devout following would be some short guy in glasses who is pitifully rich and took over the world by monopolizing computer operating systems.

  5. Re:The question that plagues us all by slashdot-terminal · · Score: 2

    How do these Pokemon characters go to the bathroom? And what inhumane things has Green Monkey done to his Pokemon. Posing nude with their butts bared to the world, this must be illegal, somehow.

    Actually Nintendo created the games in question that he derived the page from. So technically from the beginning Nintendo has been warping our children's minds with those evil Pokemon characters (I think they developed this out of an idea from a gay Jamacian porn movie).

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  6. Glowing wire: AMAZING! by WayneGayle · · Score: 4

    Get electroluminescent wire in spools at www.funhouseproductions.com

    The stuff is amazing, a company in Israel has the patent on the stuff otherwise I imagine it would be everywhere. Anything you can do with neon you can do with this stuff (although it doesn't last forever) I think that Macintosh should start putting it in their I-Macs. I could see it used in phones, glove compartments, monkeys, everywhere!

    If you really want to see this stuff in action go to burning man this summer! People go crazy with it. woo hoo!
    -WG

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  7. TCP/IP over E-mail? pah! by aliastnb · · Score: 3

    That's nothing on some of the wonderful technolgies that await us. With the advent of digital television, geeks in North-west England are puting the finishing touches to their new project... Television over Telnet!

    Yes folks, you heard it right. Pictures broadcast over the airwaves, recaptured, changed to ASCII, subtitles added and broadcast over a telnet connection from linux box.... telnetevision will take the world by storm!

    And all so that people needn't leave the public clusters to see the latest edition of Futurama...

    What other wonders does the future have in store? Who knows, but with telnetevision, who will care? Not I!

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    1. Re:TCP/IP over E-mail? pah! by slashdot-terminal · · Score: 2

      That's nothing on some of the wonderful technolgies that await us. With the advent of digital television, geeks in North-west England are puting the finishing touches to their new project... Television over Telnet!

      Yes folks, you heard it right. Pictures broadcast over the airwaves, recaptured, changed to ASCII, subtitles added and broadcast over a telnet connection from linux box.... telnetevision will take the world by storm!

      And all so that people needn't leave the public clusters to see the latest edition of Futurama...

      What other wonders does the future have in store? Who knows, but with telnetevision, who will care? Not I!


      This is not a bad thing nor is it something that is especially evil or backward. Usually in restrictive environments the brute and unsophisticated methods are very often times the ones that are necessary.

      Actually this is possible. All you have to have is large ammounts of disk space or a really fast computer. Essentially you can have a connection to a machine with a tv tuner card. Then have an application like bttv or some other linux app do screen shots of each frame of the thing in question. Then convert the files to pnm (portable anymap) and then convert the resulting files to ascii with aview. Then you could theoretically take the output and cat all the files together or have a cat filename.001 filename.002 and so on with a clear call after each frame.

      Bamo instant television over telnet. This medium would work best over delayed broadcast type medium. To get good output you would have to use a small font on the terminal. I use gnome-terminal at a value of Clean Medium at 6 pt to view ascii art creations and it works great.

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  8. Webby Nomination by Dan+B. · · Score: 2

    Congrats go out to all the boys on the Job in th Geek Compound.

    On the Community nomination
    ICQ has a better community type presence (IMO), but how many ICQ users are going to know about the Webby awards? I think /. will win due to the high volume of active users.

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  9. I can see it now... by shon · · Score: 2

    What next? IP Tunning over Snail Mail! Why? Because you can! All you need: a couple of scanners, Linux, and waaay too much time on your hands. Unfortunately, ping latencies could reach up to a week. And Quake would be barely playable. :)

    1. Re:I can see it now... by slashdot-terminal · · Score: 2

      What next? IP Tunning over Snail Mail! Why? Because you can! All you need: a couple of scanners, Linux, and waaay too much time on your hands. Unfortunately, ping latencies could reach up to a week. And Quake would be
      barely playable. :)


      Clear back in the 1890's chess by mail was a reality. What would be interesting would be to have say an interavtive game with extremely good graphics to be done via say e-mail. You have a machine that sends the data over e-mail and your client parses it. Turn based games work on this principle already.

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    2. Re:I can see it now... by Keithel · · Score: 2

      >Snail mail? Heck, you could even use carrier >pigeons.

      RFC1149

      RFC1149
      Pretty funny! I seem to remember there was one of these for a coffee pot protocol... hmm...

  10. About the tunneling TCP/IP over email... by mjuarez · · Score: 2

    I think its an interesting solution, after all your other options have been exhausted... I mean, its not the latest and greatest, but it may just work when nothing else does.

    I have a couple of doubts on the subject, though. TCP/IP is inherently a low-latency protocol... (by low-latency, I mean less than 5 minutes). In the case of email, were looking at, potentially, latencies of up to 15 min or more. How would the TCP/IP client or server application handle those? You would have to manually readjust the timeouts in the software before trying out this stuff. I see it as very interesting, though.

    I was also thinking... this way of tunneling depends entirely on the mail servers... which sometimes, in some businesses at least, are very, VERY overloaded... adding more to the latency... in contrast, a tunneling solution would almost certainly have a server dedicated to it... making it much faster... oh well, just thinking on the subject.

  11. Re:shoelaces? by angelo · · Score: 2

    try partyworks for some wire outright, or cool neon for some neat designs using same. coolwireusa has 'smore. coolwireusa has the biggest line out of these. coolneon has diy info. Funny thing is that I just looked this up for a project today...
    random tip: altoids crushed in coke or pepsi... mmmm.

  12. 1993 Guide to the Internet by Azog · · Score: 3

    Best quotes from the 1993 web guide:

    "Today there are at least 100 hypertext Web servers in use throughout the world."

    Wow. I feel old. I have no doubt that within a decade, it will be hard to even remember what life was like before the ubiquitous "http://...". It will be like trying to imagine life without telephones. Sure, people will read about it, but they won't really "get" it. Even if they grew up "pre-web".

    Torrey Hoffman (Azog)

    Torrey Hoffman (Azog)

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  13. What's slower than tunneling IP over mail? by BlueLines · · Score: 5

    It could be worse. You could be trying to send IP over pigeon. From rfc2549:

    "Patent Considerations: There is ongoing litigation about which is the prior art: carrier or egg."

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  14. Not quite Tux... by Captain+Zion · · Score: 2

    ...but not Pokemon either. Could anyone identify the owner of these butts?

  15. Quote from the Plasma Laces site by Menthos · · Score: 2
    We accept any of the above credit cards. All orders are processed on a secure or encrypted server.

    Am I the only one wondering about the last sentence?

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  16. Quickies Reply by Accipiter · · Score: 3
    Accipiter writes: "Here's my Quickie Reply Post."

    The Plasma shoelaces look really interesting. The thing that gets me, is the Website says they have a 13 hour battery life (and the blinking slows down drain...), but can you turn them OFF? And how hard can you tighten your laces before a rupture sprays plasma in your eye? Or, what if the dog gets ahold of your shoes, and thinks the blinking laces look tasty?

    The SkyBird doesn't look that cool. It would be niftier if it was physiologically correct against a REAL bird, and flew like a real bird.

    Reading the WebGuide was a trip back, but this section gave me pause:

    How was the Web created?

    The Web began in March 1989, when Tim Berners-Lee of CERN (a collective of European high-energy physics researchers) proposed the project to be used as a means of transporting research and ideas effectively throughout the organization. Effective communications was a goal of CERNs for many years, as its members were located in a number of countries.


    1989? Jeez, Al Gore must have just been getting started. (The document has no mention of ARPANET that I could find whatsoever.)

    Pokemon Butts: WHY GOD, WHY?!

    CmdrTaco: That's GEEK pride. PLEASE make sure you show up at the correct festival. GEEK pride. GEEK.

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  17. This is for real by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 3

    I must confess, I was the person who thought this whole thing up. I'm really very, very sorry about it.

    I'm a terrible programmer, but in half an hour of mucking about I came up with something interesting. There's some very crude screenshots here and here. I'm currently working on some working scaling code (to get the aspect ratio right), 'aliasing' (,,, ''' etc), and possibly some way for the program to do the grabbing itself. Image grabbing is currently done by Xawtv's streamer program.

    Well, as I said, I'm very sorry about all this.

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    1. Re:This is for real by Ralph+Bearpark · · Score: 2
      Great, now the Gutenberg Project can take on the archiving TV broadcasting too. They'll be real happy about that, I'm sure.

      Alternatively, when you've missed an episode of South Park, maybe you could view later it in glorious textorama on Deja.

      Keep up the good work.

      Regards, Ralph.

  18. 128K? Luxury! by Captain+Zion · · Score: 2
    is it true that all of cuba only has a 128k satellite link to the 'net?

    In Brazil we use IP over regular surface mail. Horrid ping times, usually several weeks. In fact I'm still waiting for the original 1993 web document to be loaded, and I started the connection in 1993!

  19. Ongoing, Perpetual Geek Pride Festival by rambone · · Score: 2
    Is going on in California right now.

    We call it "silicon Valley".

  20. Routing through e-mail by generic-man · · Score: 2

    Heck, in MY day we didn't need no fancy-schmancy e-mail to route packets. We did it all through phone lines. Remember FidoNet? I ran a small FidoNet board for about 2 1/2 years. All the mail routing was done through telephone lines, resulting in delivery times (not to mention long-distance phone charges!) that often rivaled that of conventional mail.

    Ah, those were the days...

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  21. Re:1993 Guide to the Internet - how little change by jfaughnan · · Score: 2
    I hope this guide becomes an official museum piece. It's very well written with a lovely layout. The HTML is also quite clean.

    Let us not be too proud of our progress, however. Read the document, and think how LITTLE has changed in six years. There is more of everything, but that page looks as modern as any other. Note the discussion of neat MOSAIC features such as MPEG and streaming QuickTime video ...

    We have been standing still by comparison with the period from 1989 to 1993 (Gopher, HyperG, the web, etc.) Consider all the stillborn and unborn: RDF, VRML, VR conferencing, true hypertext, NNTP/HTML collaboration frameworks, Xanadu, alternative navigation frameworks (RDF, Apple's Project X). CSS-2 is barely implemented anywhere, and even CSS-1 is not implemented. Client-side Java has struggled.

    Those were the days of the giants, and now we are still digesting those changes -- and fighting endless patent battles.

    Ahh, when I was a younger man ... now those were exciting days. Let me tell you .... :-)

    john

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  22. Email networking.. that's nothing! by Ex+Machina · · Score: 2

    This guy I know uses a scratch disk that is hooked up by SCSI to two machines to network them. of whhttp://http://www.cca.org/dave/tech/badid ea.html

  23. TCP/IP by air... by Megane · · Score: 3

    I think the coolest "interesting" way to deliver network services that I've heard of was this: at one time New Zealand's link to Usenet was a regular cargo plane which would fly reel-to-reel magtapes of newsgroup posts in from Australia.

    Anyhow, if you don't mind coming up with your own protocol, and high lag is a way of life (like a Mars-Earth IP link), just transmit everything redundantly over a UDP like protocol with extra redundancy! Then keep everything on file for retransmission if packets still get lost.

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  24. Re:I can see where this is going... by angelo · · Score: 2

    And here I thought the burlap on the dashboards all the rage in Charlotte a few years back was tacky. I've seen neon door bumpers on a neon a few years ago. what the point was, I don't know. It's like the pimp across the street from a friend of mine who over-pimped a 92-ish Pontiac Grand-AM. A note: blue, yellow, and grey only works when applied properly, like on csx trains.