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SuSE 6.4 Announced
Smoking writes "It seems like SuSE 6.4 has been announced at SuSE's german site but not yet at their US site.
It includes an (hum!) enhanced graphical installer and new stuff like XFree 4.0 (not installed by default). The release date for the german version is March 27th and the little mathematical function on the box is cooler than ever. " They also recently announced that they will be working with the folks at SourceForge for some of their new development.
It includes an (hum!) enhanced graphical installer and new stuff like XFree 4.0 (not installed by default). The release date for the german version is March 27th and the little mathematical function on the box is cooler than ever. " They also recently announced that they will be working with the folks at SourceForge for some of their new development.
Spent last weekend sticking 6.3 on my new 40G maxtor. Left me feeling pretty up to date for er, 4 whole days.
Now I feel like a putz. I should have gone to the pub instead, waited a few weeks and stuck 6.4 on a 75G IBM.
Does anyone know if you can overcome the ATA 33.8G limit with 2.2.14, (2.3.??) ?
How can I install 6.3 and get to use the whole drive instead of a measly 33.8 gig ?
http://rareformnewmedia.com/
Why is this a problem with the others? I'm not aware of any current distributions that ship GNOME but not KDE. The only difference is the GNOME is the default in Red Hat, while KDE is the default in SuSE.
SuSE may not be just for Europeans any more.
People in the US seem to assume that everyone in Europe uses SuSE. While it may have a stranglehold on the German market, that's certainly not the case in the UK. Yes, it's available, but Red Hat seems to be more prevalent.
"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." -- Delos B. McKown
I always thought packages were installed on SuSE using Red Hat's RPM. Funny that.
-- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
Geez. I'm running 6.2, I've had the 6.3 box sitting around for a few weeks waiting for me to get a chance to reorganize my disks a bit before installing it (I've got bits and pieces of an old Caldera install and some other odds and ends - probably about 3 different root partitions, yuck), and here's 6.4 out already.
But I'll probably hold off, if I can wait for a 2.4 kernel and a mature XFree86 4.0.
-- Alastair
"Why so many versions? What value do we really get between them?"
Last time I asked what was so great about various distributions on here, it got marked down as flamebait...
After all, there IS nothing more to them than a combination of various versions of various packages, including some distro-specific things like YaST, or linuxconf in the case of RedHat, whatever - especially if you're a real developer.
Developers aren't interested in "the distro" from the PoV of coding on a platform, you're interested in how all the various functions and syscalls behave in "this" given combination of libraries, etc.
It's the "home user" who's interested in the chameleon...
And speaking of proprietary non-free setup / admin toys, have SuSE open-sourced the flipping license on YaST yet?!
~Tim
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Rushing on down to the circle of the turn
actually, it's more likely to see freshmeat get assimilated by sourceforge, and freshmeat eventually become a redirect to the what's new link on sourceforge with a user-config layout option to emulate freshmeat formatting.
damnit, I hope that they finally move to the newest libjpeg so that packages are easier to upgrade...
i';m tired of the libjpeg.so.62 not being found... and then haveing to kludge around to get anything to work...
and put a version of mozilla that can actually be used...
... hi bingo
I don't know about OSS, but after you burned your iso-image and installed SuSE you can fire up YaST and then install the packages you missed on your EVALU-cdrom via ftp.
:-)
So even if you get the evalu-iso image, you still have access to the full distro for free.
After all a CDROM only(!) holds ~600MB.
cheers,
Roland
SuSE is always just soooo huge! So... how many DVDROMs is SuSE filling up this time?
Actually I think that debian is the biggest with roughly 2Gb of actual packages. That I think was with slink.
Potato may be more and unstable even more.
Slashdot social engineering at it's finest
SuSE does put an ISO of their current release on their ftp site. *But* it's only an evalutaion version, which gives you most of SuSE but you don't get the commercial apps (like a full version of OSS). You can get the current (SuSE 6.3) Evaluation ISO from: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/evaluation-6.3.is o or the much faster mirror: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/suse/su se/i386/evaluation-6.3.iso Keeps watching those sites, the SuSE 6.4 Evaluation ISO will be most likely be uploaded there soon. Most SuSE users will agree the evaluation ISO is very good, so give it a try.
No, they won't have a problem with it -- XFree86 has been officially released (albeit with limited supported cards, which is presumably why SuSE 6.4 doesn't use it by default).
"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." -- Delos B. McKown
SuSE is not, in general, less expensive than RedHat, because you can get RedHat from Cheap Bytes, but SuSE don't allow you to resell copies of their distribution. When you pay $50 or so for RedHat, you are supporting ten other users who got it for next to nothing.
-- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
The ISO is good, yes. But I REALLY recommend buying the full. CompUSA sometimes has it for $19.99 , and hell, you get so much on those 6 CDs.. I mean.. it's incredible. ANd the MANUAL! It's the best one I've EVER seen. It doesn't explain how to do things like redhat's does. It explains WHY things work.
I have a nice high speed connection at work, and would rather just download and burn to a cd there. Does SuSE support this? Do they have an FTP install? Can I get around buying the CD?
Hey Rob, Thanks for that tarball!
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion." - Jed Babbin
Yes, you can do an FTP install, the bootdisks are all on the FTP site
(ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/6.3/disks/
for 6.3 - sure you can work out where for 6.4).
As for burning a CD, I'm not sure whether you can or not - the problem being that YaST (The SuSE set up tool family) is not GPL. Info on this at
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i38 6/6.3/COPYRIGHT.yast
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I am so sick of people saying that SuSE is huge and bloated just because it happens to come with a lot of software. You do NOT have to install all the pacakages! I always install the minimum or default installation and use YaST to connect to SuSE's ftp and search for whatever program I want. Plus you must remember that not all people want to spend all day on a 56k trying to download every package they need, and this doesn''t even take into account the time wasted searching freshmeat, linuxlinks.com, etc, for the programs you want. I'm lucky enough to have a fast net connection (dorm ethernet rules) but I was happy to have all the software when I installed SuSE 6.2 on an old P75 I got my hands on that had no access to the net. Face it, SuSE 0wnz j00.
I hated the hum! of the article poster. On one hand we want Linux to reach the desktop, on the other we are reluctant to easy installation procedures. I am sorry, but this is bigotry.
Besides, why complain since Yast2 comes along with yast1 (yes, text mode, full of features installation software) ? Yast2 was written for those that don't know exactly what Linux is, who don't know what hardware is inside their machines and so on. Or for those that like inserting the cd, writing a few lines and going to smoke a cigarette while the system is installing.
Of course, an experienced user won't use this tool (although I can tell it does look cute) because it doesn't offer you the complete control over the installation.
As for myself, I would have liked to see the KDE 2 with the new release of Suse. I know, it won't probably be included until 6.6 - but still, one can hope, can't he ? Right now it's only a simple update of 6.3 (great distribution!). So, if you have enough bandwidth I think it's worth downloading (or even better take advantage of the update from ftp site feature).
Wish (read it especially if you work for VA) : please mirror the distribution on your site sooner. ftp.suse.com works only at 50k/s which is a real pain when downloading 6 cd's .
They should skip the box and manuals and instead just stuff that ugly little green lizard with a DVD version of SuSE.
It probably wouldn't cost more than a box and manual if they made the lizard in some eastern sweatshop and if they changed lizards for each new version people would start to have real reasons to upgrade.
They would also have the edge against redhat. Who wouldn't choose the little cuddly toy vs the stupid looking red hat. There is also no point in making variants of red hats. A red hat is just a red hat but people would actually start collecting the variants of the green lizards if they were cute enough.
In other words, SuSE may not be just for Europeans any more. There are some distinct reasons that I like it:
- Flexibility
- A unified installation/administration tool
- KDE rather than GNOME (I prefer it)
- Less expensive (at least here)
- More packages
So -- SuSE is potentially aiming to take that market domination. It might just teach Red Hat that they're NOT the only game in town, even in the US, anymore."I may disagree vehemently with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it."
"On that train all graphite and glitter, undersea by rail. Ninety minutes from New York to Paris..." -Donald Fagen, IGY