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Amiga - Back From the Dead?

Wired has this story about the Amiga comeback, under a new company, which bought the Amiga rights from Gateway. As an old Amiga fan, I will believe it when I see some new machines. You can read more about it here on the official Amiga Web site. I really hope to see something come out of this.

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  1. Do we need PC alternatives any-more? by Sanity · · Score: 3
    As an old Atari-fan I can understand the loyalty which Amiga, Atari, Acorn and other "alternative" computer manufacturers enjoyed in the late 80s and early 90s - however I personally feel that Linux is a much more deserving, and a much more promising, focus for my loyalty than any such computer now. I felt a sense of loyalty towards Atari because I felt that since they were the underdog, we [Atari users] felt a sense of community and comradeship, but the Linux community offers these and more. Linux users don't have to tolerate our chosen platform's destiny being in the hands of an ultimately self-interested company. Linux truly is the platform of the people, and now that we have Linux I can't see a place for Amiga (or Atari, or Acorn) other than for their nostalgia value.

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  2. April first?!?!? by NoseyNick · · Score: 3
    April 1st is NOT a good date to choose for your forthcoming big announcement, for goodness sake.

    April Fool! April Fool! April Fool!

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    Nick Waterman, Sr Tech Director, #include <stddisclaimer>
  3. I hate to p**s on the parade, but... by Ethelred+Unraed · · Score: 3
    ...why should this be any more real than previous attempts?

    Besides, what does this have to do with the "original" Amiga? Nothing but the name.

    I remember using an Amiga 500 with a friend and being knocked sideways by its sheer power. I remember an innovative system that in many ways was too good for its time. But please, this is starting to border on cruelty -- every few months there is a new apparition on the horizon, and old Amiga users look up in hope, only to have those hopes dashed.

    Face it: this won't be an Amiga. There is little to no chance that it will be as revolutionary as the original Amiga; at best, it will have a few nice things but will mostly be hard to find a reason to buy it (short of the name).

    Pin your hopes on something else that does have a chance of success: Linux, or maybe Mac OS X, or maybe BeOS, or *BSD. Whatever strikes your fancy. But a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...

    cya

    Ethelred

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    Everyone wants to be Ethelred. Even I want to be Ethelred.
    1. Re:I hate to p**s on the parade, but... by Ethelred+Unraed · · Score: 3
      Because this is the first "attempt" where Amiga Inc. doesn't have a parent company above it to choke it...

      It also doesn't have a parent company to provide it with capital. If the "new" Amiga is to have any success at all, it will need that above all.

      If Amiga were to seriously succeed, it would need a parent company that gives a damn. Amiga hasn't had that for years (if ever).

      Furthermore, it would be more beneficial to everyone in general if those working on the Amiga would work on existing OSes to improve them, rather than creating yet another OS trading on the name of a once-revolutionary-now-in-twilight OS.

      I just find it to be hard on those wishing for Amigas to return, when the "Amiga" returning isn't an Amiga at all--there will never be another true Amiga IMHO, because its active OS development went into a weird twilight long ago. This looks, feels and smells like another mirage.

      I would have far more positive feelings about it if Amiga were contributing to something else: BeOS maybe, or Linux. Maybe make an alternative kernel and/or windowing system that works with Linux software. Just some ideas. But to create something new from scratch now strikes me as singularly quixotic.

      cya

      Ethelred

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      Everyone wants to be Ethelred. Even I want to be Ethelred.
  4. Uses for an Old Amiga. by threaded · · Score: 3
    Last year I went to Gran Canaria on Holiday. During a thunderstorm the cable TV setup in the complex blinked out and was replaced with the 'insert boot disk screen' of the Amiga (in Spanish BTW). Was right in the middle of a film! Scuttled down to the concierge and showed him how to reboot from the (dusty) floppies ...

    But that was not as spooky as a ZX-80 running a nuclear power plant ...

  5. Re:Why the red & white ball? by HeUnique · · Score: 4

    Well, in the beginning (I'm talking about the days when Amiga 1000 came out with 256k RAM), Someone (probably from Amiga) created this red-white bouncing 3D ball. No one said anything about it (copyright license or anything), and everyone like that demo (along with the juggler demo) - so later Commodore (not sure) - made the red-white ball - the Amiga logo..

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  6. It must be Tuesday... by Monte · · Score: 4

    ...Amiga's back from the dead again.

  7. Seems better than previous ones by Schwarzy · · Score: 4
    One thing very nice in this news is that they understand what made the Amiga so lovely: easyness, the price and the community.

    Refered as my own experience, what made me love Amiga was that I could pay myself without breaking my mother's purse, that you have lot of informations for programming at the price of floppy disks and that for only $100, I bought a C compiler and could run the whole thing with only two floppy disk drives on my A500 (it's true!), and nevertheless have fun with beautiful games.
    I started with a A500, continued with an A1200 two years later, and boost it with a 68030 processor card a year after without breaking my whole (and old !) software and cut budget's familly for food and clothes. I could work with LaTeX for editing, play funny and beautiful games, discover programming in GFABasic, Assembly language and C language. In 1996, the hard disk crashed just after I bought a expensive PC (at least for me, a poor student) for working at my school because everybody used to work on PC with windows (may be evil waves from the PC ? :-). So without money, I have to drop my Amiga (and started with linux few months later after the discover of the sad and flat Windows world)

    Oups, I almost forgot to say that Amiga was a she computer ;-) The only female computer in the world.

    Today even with linux for free, If you want to both play good and beautiful games, discover programming and work, you need an expensive PC. why ? because:

    • Playing games made with leasy programming on unfinished drivers for 3D card need big computer power on an ass-hole OS hust good for playing games. It's a end-less run for high geometry objects and huge textures, just for players to forget that it's the same game running since five years. Everybody think 3D is the only way for gaming. So now, you can't find a good shoot-them-up à la R-Type.
    • every modern OS today is difficult to learn at API level for a novice or a beginner : on linux side, you have to many librairies that you don't know where to start (GNOME/KDE/ncurses is one example). On Windows side you have one api but it's awful and you have to manage yourself difference and bug between OS releases and the prices for programming even for fun are insane !!!
    • for working, things are better because every PC with at least 150 Mhz for processor and 32M of memory can run LaTeX, Word, WordPerfect or whatever you want (but StarOffice maybe)

    So, there are rooms for low cost and easy systems. Maybe we can call it Amiga in old days when computer was also for pleasure and not only for taking your money.

    I just want to come back in happy days when just plug a card under the keyboard was enough to boost my computer, when nobody spoke about plug and play because it was already there, when having a Command Line Interface in the corner wasn't a shame.

    Today when I speak with people, ever non-programmer, old enough to have worked on an Amiga, I never meet someone saying that it was a bad machine. Everyone remembers how easy of use it was, how easy it was to just put a card in it and use it without pain for lucky owner of A3000 and A4000. They also remember the low and affordable price of A500 and A1200 computers. It was the days of computers at purse scale.

  8. The good points of the Amiga by luckykaa · · Score: 4

    1. Multitasking Desktop OS (in 1985 this was unheard of, although Most Amiga owners just assumed that all OS's had Preemptive multi tasking)

    2. 4096 colour pallette. (Once again impressive in '85) as well as custom hardware such as the blitter chip - A much more sophisticted one than the simple rectangle movement chips in a lot of SVGA cards too. This could take 3 sources and AND and OR them together.

    3. Stereo Sound. Not the best sound available at the time, but certainly very impressive. 2 8-bit channels per speaker allowed a crude 14 bit sound format.

    4. Small fast efficient Os. This would work on a 512K machine with no swap space, and still have room for applications

    5. Stable. Ironically, This was down to the absence of memory protection. If your program crashes it brings down the whole system.

    6. Screens. Something that no other Os has done as well, although the multiple consoles on Linux gives a similar feel. Essentially each application had its own screen at its own resolution and colour depth. This is available on other operating systems now, but it was part of the whole look and fell of the OS.

    7. Cost. This was priced competitively against consoles. The small amount extra was considered worth it for the added benefit of having word processors, and paint programs. (Not to mention pirate games)

    I'll let others go into the disadvantages. I'm too much of a fanatic to seriously believe that there were any. (It's all lies from the un-Amigaly who will go to silicon Hell)

  9. "Needing" the Amiga by h_jurvanen · · Score: 4
    It amuses me to read all the comments about the world not "needing" the Amiga anymore. In some sense, the world does not need the Amiga. However, the world does also not "need" Linux, BSD, open source, etc.

    The people who are making this attempt to rejuvenate the Amiga are in it because they love the platform, they find it worth their time and energy, and they want to see the Amiga continue. Open source/Linux, etc. fans should start to see the parallels here... right? Now that I think about it, I'm uncertain whether to be more amused or sad at the attitudes taken by the supposedly open-minded and enlightened people here.

    Herbie J.