Go read SCO latest 10Q, you'll find that 2 companies bought license from SCO in the last quater. One is Microsoft and the other one is confidential.
Total amount of money paid (by both companies, combined!): $8.3 millions..
How much this amount of money can help SCO in their lawsuit? consider that Mr. Boies and the other high profile lawyers are VERY expensive ones, it won't hold much...
The guy is an Arab, and leads the Mac IE development. Why didn't he try to add Bidi support? maybe convince the upper management that here in the middle east people tend to read Arabic/Hebrew/Farsi needs this support - and he knows that...
Oh well, emailing him doesn't have, he already reached his quota;)
>> b.t.w., LPF Patent Page [mit.edu] -- the patent described in the image at the top (XOR in screen bitmap cursors) is now out of date (filed in '78) and expired. Does that mean someone in XF86 will finally make xor-based cursors?
Checked XFree CVS (or 4.2.99.x) lately? it's right there...
I do think that GnomeMeeting is great, I really do - when it comes to PCPC calls, and for PC->POTS - if you're willing to shell out the $100+ for the PCI card..
tkcphone is something else which is NOT trying to compete with GnomeMeeting! It's just a port of Net2Phone to Linux (X86 and Zaurus), without any video support, it's based on SIP and not H.323, and it has the G.729 codec inside which clearly gives an impressive sound on a low bandwidth.
Besides - tkcphone will cost about $9.95, and you can use your existing (if you have) net2phone account to just use it everywhere with your standard PC sound card + mic.
As for the question about Open source or not - I'm affraid it's not an Open Source application (I don't think that net2phone will like to see their source code outside).
Thekompany will relese a Desktop version (it will cost $9.95, with G.279 codec, no need for a special card) - and you'll be able to connect to Net2Phone users...
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God, don't you read the comments on other slashdot stories sometime?
Back when the OS/2 came out, MS started to release the win32S extensions and encouraged lots of software companies to write software with this extension, which of-course - couldn't run on OS/2. IBM didn't have any solution fot that and they didn't continue to work on the compatibility issue, which left OS/2 in the dust..
Here we have a different case - few companies (with different goals - transgaming for games and Codeweavers for applications) are working and hacking wine to make it run the most popular applications. MS cannot ignore 54% of the population who runs Windows 95/98/98SE/ME, and only with their office 11 they start to move to win2K and XP as a requirement, a thing that will take at least until 2004. By that time, rest assure that Codeweavers will have a compatibility layer for Win2k (at least) - 2 years is a LONG time..
I was wondering - in the issue of stand alone player, will we, the Linux users, will see something soon? (in terms of end user product).
Real Player 9 for Linux was ditched by Real Networks, and wasn't updated from their "beta" for quite a while. I can use today some open source tools like mplayer and Xine to play most of the codecs, but not RV20, RV30 codecs, or QMV3 stuff (where's the guy who said he reversed engineer it?), and much less streaming support with the mention codecs...
And here's the REALLY scary part! if you buy an XBox today, most chances that even if you manage to install some mod chip - the xbox-linux won't run on it. MS changed chips and code based on the analysis of the MIT hacker...
With NULL, RedHat has "mixed" KDE components into GNOME, added a new theme so all GNOME & KDE components looks the same, and instead of Konqueror and KMail on KDE panel - you're getting evolution and Mozilla. Why? ask Red Hat.
In terms of better hardware support, not much news there. Sure, some more graphics cards are added to kudzu, Xconfigurator has gone (now it's "redhat-config-xfree") but the same issue remains - if your vendor gives a binary only driver - then you'll have to manually get it install it..
Sure, kudzu detected my card and install RedHat's default driver, but not any tool to really use your SBLive card! I mean, if you have Mandrake or Redhat - then look at the mixer - do you see bass & treble? nope. Do you see digital out support? nope. Do you see AC3 support? nope. ALL those features ARE available in the open source driver, but unless the user is willing to compile the CVS version of the driver, compile and install the tools and fiddle with the emu10k1.conf file - you won't get much of your SBLive card! you'll get something just like a crappy ac-97 sound codec features, and the SBLive processor is a damn strong processor with tons of feature, and yet - the RH/MDK driver simply won't let you set it..
Compare this to the SBlive driver which comes with Windows 2k/XP and tell me whats better...
I don't know about you, but here are 2 examples of Windows compared to Linux..
1. SBLive drivers - go find them on the net, try to compile - fail (yes, need to copy the correct.config to the/usr/src/linux-2.4), retry compile, make install, fiddle with the/usr/local/etc/emu10k1.conf file (if you know the options well!), load the modules, start your sound server (if needed) and use your card..
Compare it to windows - double click on setup.exe - few clicks on Next, reboot, card is ready to be used with anything. Contrary to what people think, many end users don't give a damn if they need to reboot.
Logitech QuickCam Express - search for driver, download, compile, install, see why colors looks horrible and why you got some garbage in the trailing picture, and fiddle with the driver options to try to fix it, rmmod, modprobe, restart until you find it working correctly, and add a line to/etc/modules.conf so it can load automatically.
Windows - download the driver from the manufacturer, run the setup.exe - 3 clicks on Next, and the driver comes to live with a great picture quality!
There are TONS of problems with windows, but when it comes to driver installation, support from IHV, and 3rd party support, Microsoft puts RedHat into a shame...
I totally agree with you, and allow me to add few more points...
* When you buy Windows (any windows) you get a decent package of fonts which looks really great. So far Red Hat gives you a really shitty pack of fonts, which looks really bad in non latin-1 packages. If Red Hat wants to get into the desktop - they need to license some fonts, which I hardly see them doing so.
* Easiness of software install - the last thing a man wants is to mess with dependencies! up2date installation is nice, but only if you install something from the Red Hat packages. Got an RPMS from somewhere else? good luck with dependencies nightmore!
* Hardware support - a corporate doesn't give a flying fuck if NVidia releases binary only drivers or not, same for ATI, same for Matrox, same for 3DLabs. As of today - Red Hat only supports those open source drivers which means you'll have less-then-well drivers, no dual screen support, and barely 3D - that needs to be change! Almost everything in Red Hat is hard to setup for a user which came from Windows! have you tried to setup DMA on RedHat? dual screen? modem? scanner? webcam? these are NIGHTMARE settings for newbie in RH Linux!
Another prime example - Sound Blaster live card which I'm sure lots of people here have it. The RedHat package barely gives you stereo support! no bass/treble, no AC3, no digital channel support and those ARE open source drivers!
In short - Red Hat got a LONG way to go to make something which even compared to the easiness of Windows 95! Mandrake right now is much more friendly on the desktop then any version of Red Hat (IMHO).
As for Microsoft - I'm pretty sure few people there are heaving a big laugh from RH move..
Well, the issue has been known to Waldo Bastian for the last 2 days and he fixed in on both KDE HEAD and KDE 3.0.x branch, and he's now fixing the KDE 2.2.2 branch (for people who preffer to stay with KDE 2.2.x yet).
The patch HAS been tested in the last 2 days, but it took 95 minutes to post a fix since the story was released..
Does anyone knows a backup tool (for CD-R, not tape) that can incremental backup? mindi/mondo combo is good - until you need incremental backup, my Linux partitions are 40 GB and I cannot afford tape right now. full backup with CD-R is ok for first full backup, but each week a full set of CD-R's?
Apple move from OS 7.x to 8.x (was that 7 to 8? or 6 to 7?) had a compatibility layer which could run most of your applications in a special layer (forgot the term).
What Intel gives you as a backward compatible is slower then Pentium III 600 Mhz. Show many any serious IT person who will buy Itanium 2 at those high prices with this compatibility.
Lets face it - with Linux the move is easier - there will be Linux distributions for Itanium 2, and the rest of the stuff which is not available there - you'll need to recompile (and fix some endianness issues - if there are) but when it comes to commercial applications or worse - Windows OS - you'll have to wait for the vendors to ship a special version, which will cost you a lot. Don't expect Back Office for Itanium 2 tommorow..
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WTF??
Go read SCO latest 10Q, you'll find that 2 companies bought license from SCO in the last quater. One is Microsoft and the other one is confidential.
Total amount of money paid (by both companies, combined!): $8.3 millions..
How much this amount of money can help SCO in their lawsuit? consider that Mr. Boies and the other high profile lawyers are VERY expensive ones, it won't hold much...
Yeah, and I was always wondering...
;)
The guy is an Arab, and leads the Mac IE development. Why didn't he try to add Bidi support? maybe convince the upper management that here in the middle east people tend to read Arabic/Hebrew/Farsi needs this support - and he knows that...
Oh well, emailing him doesn't have, he already reached his quota
That project is dead for 2 years now..
I don't remember the URL, but the-registered mentioned few months ago that there's a Linux SDK for the P800 - for free!
>> b.t.w., LPF Patent Page [mit.edu] -- the patent described in the image at the top (XOR in screen bitmap cursors) is now out of date (filed in '78) and expired. Does that mean someone in XF86 will finally make xor-based cursors?
Checked XFree CVS (or 4.2.99.x) lately? it's right there...
Because she (Jonita) is his (Damien) girl friend. ;)
I do think that GnomeMeeting is great, I really do - when it comes to PCPC calls, and for PC->POTS - if you're willing to shell out the $100+ for the PCI card..
tkcphone is something else which is NOT trying to compete with GnomeMeeting! It's just a port of Net2Phone to Linux (X86 and Zaurus), without any video support, it's based on SIP and not H.323, and it has the G.729 codec inside which clearly gives an impressive sound on a low bandwidth.
Besides - tkcphone will cost about $9.95, and you can use your existing (if you have) net2phone account to just use it everywhere with your standard PC sound card + mic.
As for the question about Open source or not - I'm affraid it's not an Open Source application (I don't think that net2phone will like to see their source code outside).
Not open source, but will cost $9.95
you WON'T need any special PCI card, and the codecs will be the same as the Windows client (including the excellent G.279 codec)...
You'll be able to talk to any net2phone client, and with firewall support...
WITHIN A WEEK..
Thekompany will relese a Desktop version (it will cost $9.95, with G.279 codec, no need for a special card) - and you'll be able to connect to Net2Phone users...
Hmm...
;)
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I guess they also need a good sys admin
Hmm, that would be the old Atari ST keyboard which had a stand alone processor + RAM...
Few years ago there was an Israeli start-up company who was working on a streaming video product - VDO.Net..
Microsoft invested in them $18 million, and after a year Microsoft released a competing product and killed VDO.Net product...
You can't. There won't be a free version.
God, don't you read the comments on other slashdot stories sometime?
Back when the OS/2 came out, MS started to release the win32S extensions and encouraged lots of software companies to write software with this extension, which of-course - couldn't run on OS/2. IBM didn't have any solution fot that and they didn't continue to work on the compatibility issue, which left OS/2 in the dust..
Here we have a different case - few companies (with different goals - transgaming for games and Codeweavers for applications) are working and hacking wine to make it run the most popular applications. MS cannot ignore 54% of the population who runs Windows 95/98/98SE/ME, and only with their office 11 they start to move to win2K and XP as a requirement, a thing that will take at least until 2004. By that time, rest assure that Codeweavers will have a compatibility layer for Win2k (at least) - 2 years is a LONG time..
If you're using redhat - go to freshrpms.net and download/install the apt4rpm - works like a charm under RH 7.3 and RH 8.0
For other RPM based distributions - apt4rpms.sf.net
Hi Rob,
I was wondering - in the issue of stand alone player, will we, the Linux users, will see something soon? (in terms of end user product).
Real Player 9 for Linux was ditched by Real Networks, and wasn't updated from their "beta" for quite a while. I can use today some open source tools like mplayer and Xine to play most of the codecs, but not RV20, RV30 codecs, or QMV3 stuff (where's the guy who said he reversed engineer it?), and much less streaming support with the mention codecs...
Wrong..
You CAN build Konqueror out of KDE - there's a special version of Konqueror which doesn't even requires X! it's called KDENOX (KDE NO X)..
As for themes - you can do it also. You just need to remove the directories of the themes before you start compiling KDE.
And here's the REALLY scary part! if you buy an XBox today, most chances that even if you manage to install some mod chip - the xbox-linux won't run on it. MS changed chips and code based on the analysis of the MIT hacker...
I'm actually using null right now ;)
With NULL, RedHat has "mixed" KDE components into GNOME, added a new theme so all GNOME & KDE components looks the same, and instead of Konqueror and KMail on KDE panel - you're getting evolution and Mozilla. Why? ask Red Hat.
In terms of better hardware support, not much news there. Sure, some more graphics cards are added to kudzu, Xconfigurator has gone (now it's "redhat-config-xfree") but the same issue remains - if your vendor gives a binary only driver - then you'll have to manually get it install it..
Did you read my comment?
Sure, kudzu detected my card and install RedHat's default driver, but not any tool to really use your SBLive card! I mean, if you have Mandrake or Redhat - then look at the mixer - do you see bass & treble? nope. Do you see digital out support? nope. Do you see AC3 support? nope. ALL those features ARE available in the open source driver, but unless the user is willing to compile the CVS version of the driver, compile and install the tools and fiddle with the emu10k1.conf file - you won't get much of your SBLive card! you'll get something just like a crappy ac-97 sound codec features, and the SBLive processor is a damn strong processor with tons of feature, and yet - the RH/MDK driver simply won't let you set it..
Compare this to the SBlive driver which comes with Windows 2k/XP and tell me whats better...
I don't know about you, but here are 2 examples of Windows compared to Linux..
.config to the /usr/src/linux-2.4), retry compile, make install, fiddle with the /usr/local/etc/emu10k1.conf file (if you know the options well!), load the modules, start your sound server (if needed) and use your card..
/etc/modules.conf so it can load automatically.
1. SBLive drivers - go find them on the net, try to compile - fail (yes, need to copy the correct
Compare it to windows - double click on setup.exe - few clicks on Next, reboot, card is ready to be used with anything. Contrary to what people think, many end users don't give a damn if they need to reboot.
Logitech QuickCam Express - search for driver, download, compile, install, see why colors looks horrible and why you got some garbage in the trailing picture, and fiddle with the driver options to try to fix it, rmmod, modprobe, restart until you find it working correctly, and add a line to
Windows - download the driver from the manufacturer, run the setup.exe - 3 clicks on Next, and the driver comes to live with a great picture quality!
There are TONS of problems with windows, but when it comes to driver installation, support from IHV, and 3rd party support, Microsoft puts RedHat into a shame...
I totally agree with you, and allow me to add few more points...
* When you buy Windows (any windows) you get a decent package of fonts which looks really great. So far Red Hat gives you a really shitty pack of fonts, which looks really bad in non latin-1 packages. If Red Hat wants to get into the desktop - they need to license some fonts, which I hardly see them doing so.
* Easiness of software install - the last thing a man wants is to mess with dependencies! up2date installation is nice, but only if you install something from the Red Hat packages. Got an RPMS from somewhere else? good luck with dependencies nightmore!
* Hardware support - a corporate doesn't give a flying fuck if NVidia releases binary only drivers or not, same for ATI, same for Matrox, same for 3DLabs. As of today - Red Hat only supports those open source drivers which means you'll have less-then-well drivers, no dual screen support, and barely 3D - that needs to be change! Almost everything in Red Hat is hard to setup for a user which came from Windows! have you tried to setup DMA on RedHat? dual screen? modem? scanner? webcam? these are NIGHTMARE settings for newbie in RH Linux!
Another prime example - Sound Blaster live card which I'm sure lots of people here have it. The RedHat package barely gives you stereo support! no bass/treble, no AC3, no digital channel support and those ARE open source drivers!
In short - Red Hat got a LONG way to go to make something which even compared to the easiness of Windows 95! Mandrake right now is much more friendly on the desktop then any version of Red Hat (IMHO).
As for Microsoft - I'm pretty sure few people there are heaving a big laugh from RH move..
Well, the issue has been known to Waldo Bastian for the last 2 days and he fixed in on both KDE HEAD and KDE 3.0.x branch, and he's now fixing the KDE 2.2.2 branch (for people who preffer to stay with KDE 2.2.x yet).
The patch HAS been tested in the last 2 days, but it took 95 minutes to post a fix since the story was released..
Thanks,
This reminds me a question:
Does anyone knows a backup tool (for CD-R, not tape) that can incremental backup? mindi/mondo combo is good - until you need incremental backup, my Linux partitions are 40 GB and I cannot afford tape right now. full backup with CD-R is ok for first full backup, but each week a full set of CD-R's?
Sorry Jaegar, you're wrong..
Apple move from OS 7.x to 8.x (was that 7 to 8? or 6 to 7?) had a compatibility layer which could run most of your applications in a special layer (forgot the term).
What Intel gives you as a backward compatible is slower then Pentium III 600 Mhz. Show many any serious IT person who will buy Itanium 2 at those high prices with this compatibility.
Lets face it - with Linux the move is easier - there will be Linux distributions for Itanium 2, and the rest of the stuff which is not available there - you'll need to recompile (and fix some endianness issues - if there are) but when it comes to commercial applications or worse - Windows OS - you'll have to wait for the vendors to ship a special version, which will cost you a lot. Don't expect Back Office for Itanium 2 tommorow..