phydeaux2 writes "
Yahoo! TV Coverage reports that the project to remake Planet of the Apes has gotten the green light. " Wow. I'm stunned. Tim Burton...and Planet of the Apes.
The nuclear annihilation of the world as we know it was bright? The vivisection and stuffing of intelligent human beings was cheery?
When done by Kim Novak in a monkey costume, yes.
Where's the 'bullshit' moderation option?
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ODiV
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What I'm really concerned with is your claim that computer geeks are one of the most racist groups in society because they don't meet any black people.
What about the computer geeks that are black people? They must have a hard time dealing with their ancestry versus their hatred of black people. (I'm being sarcastic)
Or are you suggesting that black people can't be computer geeks? If this is the case, I'd have to wonder just who the racist is.
I happen to believe that computer geeks don't care much about race. So maybe I'm a little idealistic. When we meet and discuss here on/. we don't ask what someone's ancestry is before we support or denounce their position. We judge people soley on their intelligence, accuracy, and writing skills.
That's just my take on things.
Just an aside: Maybe I'm in the wrong generation or country, but I have never heard of ape used to describe black people (I'm not doubting that this happenes, I've just never heard of it before).
About this whole Planet of the Apes thing: I happen to like Tim Burton. I will definately re-watch some of his films for hints of racism though.
Original story is much darker ...
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threaded
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Tim Burton usually does the stories much darker. If you read the original book (it's in French ho hum) it is very dark. The apes are much much further advanced than the humans, not so much the humans de-evolved as were overtaken.
articles detailing this films 'evolution'...
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SethJohnson
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This has dropped through so many hands so far. Glad to see Burton was able to get a hold of it.
Here's a story about how James Cameron was going to do it. That article also mentions how Oliver Stone had been named as a possible director and Arnold Swarzanegger as the lead role. Now that Burton appears to be in charge, I would be very surprised if the Terminator was sent to dispatch all those damn hairy apes with a mini gun.
The story of Sleepy Hollow has been told before. I'm sure we all knew how Batman was going to end. Hell, the only movie I can think of offhand that has a really cool ending is Star Wars. Even after 16 years of avoiding the film, when I saw it, I was suprised. Even though I knew a few key points, just from pop-culture references.
The point is, not all movies are made because they have a suprise ending. We all know the guy usually gets the girl, and the hero never dies. It's the films that mean something that matter. Films that touched us. Made us laugh. Made us cry. The classics. Remaking classics has always been a bit of a challenge for well-known directors. And it's always interesting to see the story from another point of view.
I think a Burton putting a spin on this one just might be enough to make me cough up 7 bucks.
Never mind the fact that he allowed the Batman franchise to be ruined and screwed over Kevin Smith
"Get your scissorhands off me, you damn dirty stinking ape!"
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But will it be accurate?
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Planet of the Apes made use of popular preconceptions of the great apes that are wrong.
Gorillas are docile herbavores. Chimpanzees are intelligent, but violent and warring. Orangatans are solitary. It would be a far more interesting movie if the ape society is extrapolated from the real dispositions of the apes.
I have to say, I have my doubts about Tim Burton and this film. He's one of those visual guys - almost strictly visual - and Planet of the Apes is very much story-driven.
It wasn't really a movie which depended on creating an atmosphere; it was more cerebral than that. It was loudly metaphorical, and Taylor was more a abstraction than a character. He was Man. Or rather a facet of Man, distilled in such a way as to promote the writer's point. It was meant to be disturbing.
And I just have a hunch Burton's going to miss a lot of that. Without replacing it with another metaphor, either. Burton's films lack discipline and direction. That can be okay if you're trying for a simple visual experience, but Planet of the Apes seems a poor choice for that.
But then, I thing Lucas has similar problems (and talents), and I disliked The Phantom Menace for similar reasons... your mileage may vary.:-)
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No, today he would say that if the Black guy who got his brain cut out in the movie, had a gun those Apes would have not messed with him.
Or if his character would have had his 2nd Admendment rights, he would have not been captured in the first place.
And last, but not least. If the humans in the movie had legel access to guns, they would not be oppressed by the Apes.
But lets not forget the tyranny of Ape government would have been kept in check by the people if they were NRA members!
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The nuclear annihilation of the world as we know it was bright? The vivisection and stuffing of intelligent human beings was cheery?
When done by Kim Novak in a monkey costume, yes.
What I'm really concerned with is your claim that computer geeks are one of the most racist groups in society because they don't meet any black people.
/. we don't ask what someone's ancestry is before we support or denounce their position. We judge people soley on their intelligence, accuracy, and writing skills.
What about the computer geeks that are black people? They must have a hard time dealing with their ancestry versus their hatred of black people. (I'm being sarcastic)
Or are you suggesting that black people can't be computer geeks? If this is the case, I'd have to wonder just who the racist is.
I happen to believe that computer geeks don't care much about race. So maybe I'm a little idealistic. When we meet and discuss here on
That's just my take on things.
Just an aside: Maybe I'm in the wrong generation or country, but I have never heard of ape used to describe black people (I'm not doubting that this happenes, I've just never heard of it before).
About this whole Planet of the Apes thing: I happen to like Tim Burton. I will definately re-watch some of his films for hints of racism though.
Tim Burton usually does the stories much darker. If you read the original book (it's in French ho hum) it is very dark. The apes are much much further advanced than the humans, not so much the humans de-evolved as were overtaken.
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This has dropped through so many hands so far. Glad to see Burton was able to get a hold of it.
Here's a story about how James Cameron was going to do it.
That article also mentions how Oliver Stone had been named as a possible director and Arnold Swarzanegger as the lead role. Now that Burton appears to be in charge, I would be very surprised if the Terminator was sent to dispatch all those damn hairy apes with a mini gun.
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The story of Sleepy Hollow has been told before. I'm sure we all knew how Batman was going to end. Hell, the only movie I can think of offhand that has a really cool ending is Star Wars. Even after 16 years of avoiding the film, when I saw it, I was suprised. Even though I knew a few key points, just from pop-culture references.
The point is, not all movies are made because they have a suprise ending. We all know the guy usually gets the girl, and the hero never dies. It's the films that mean something that matter. Films that touched us. Made us laugh. Made us cry. The classics. Remaking classics has always been a bit of a challenge for well-known directors. And it's always interesting to see the story from another point of view.
I think a Burton putting a spin on this one just might be enough to make me cough up 7 bucks.
Never mind the fact that he allowed the Batman franchise to be ruined and screwed over Kevin Smith
"Get your scissorhands off me, you damn dirty stinking ape!"
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
Planet of the Apes made use of popular preconceptions of the great apes that are wrong.
Gorillas are docile herbavores. Chimpanzees are intelligent, but violent and warring. Orangatans are solitary. It would be a far more interesting movie if the ape society is extrapolated from the real dispositions of the apes.
It wasn't really a movie which depended on creating an atmosphere; it was more cerebral than that. It was loudly metaphorical, and Taylor was more a abstraction than a character. He was Man. Or rather a facet of Man, distilled in such a way as to promote the writer's point. It was meant to be disturbing.
And I just have a hunch Burton's going to miss a lot of that. Without replacing it with another metaphor, either. Burton's films lack discipline and direction. That can be okay if you're trying for a simple visual experience, but Planet of the Apes seems a poor choice for that.
But then, I thing Lucas has similar problems (and talents), and I disliked The Phantom Menace for similar reasons... your mileage may vary. :-)
"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." - Alexander Hamilton
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I love you Dr. Zaius!
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