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Anonymous Web Hosting Banned In France

An anonymous reader writes,"French free Webhosting services are now not so free anymore (In French!). In fact the French National Assembly has decided that anyone wanting to host some Web pages on a server has to identify himself. If this is not done, it's the server administrator who is responsible for any contents of the pages ... The immediate consequence for this is that free Web hosting services in France, like altern.org or multimania.com, won't be able to continue. "

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  1. Sounds dumb to me for another... by Mullen · · Score: 5

    Sounds dumb to me for another reason. They are going to kill the ISPs and thus Internet industary in France. ISPs have to prove the identity's of all persons having a web page. So if they can't they get fined or jailed. So what do the ISP's do instead, remove all pages. If someone in France wants a page they have to goto another country (Hopefully the USA, since I am resident of that country and it would make our economy stronger).
    No ISPs? Then French will leave France and work in other countries when it comes to eCommerce, they Next Big Thing.

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  2. This is nothing new in France by anticypher · · Score: 5

    Anonymity has always been outlawed in France, this is the summary of a bill before the french national assembly to codify a law banning all anonymity on any internet service physically on french territory.

    As this article points out, the law is not yet final, but one more vote will make it final. The bill was unopposed by the clueless elected officials, because it merely confirms the internet must follow existing french law.

    The new law will require all web hosting services to verify the identity of every person putting a web page on their servers, and must turn over that identity to any person who ask for it, including any cop or government official, as well as any private citizen. There is no requirement to publish the web authors information on the web page, merely to maintain a copy and to give it out when asked. It also says that if the web site owner can't or won't turn over the identity of a user, then its 6 months in prison.

    The immediate downside of this law if it passes is that altern.org will have to kick off all users, and only let back on those who can prove their identity in one of the ways acceptable to the french government (carte d'identity, permis conduire (driving permit), or passport, as well as proof of residency of a current phone or electricity bill).

    As Valentin points out, if this law passes in france, then it could quite well become law in all parts of the EU. That is frightening, but might happen.

    The uncertain thing is what happens to people in other countries using french web hosting services and cant travel to france to prove their identity. As the law is currently written, french web hosting can only allow identified users on french soil, and all others must be kicked off.

    ahhh, c'est les francais

    the AC

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  3. How this started. by Desert+Raven · · Score: 5

    Anyone remember how this case got started?

    This all came about over a copyright fight because model Estelle Hallyday did not like that nude photos of her had been scanned from a magazine and posted to free website AlternB.

    One VERY important note from the original case is that the plaintiffs did not even TRY to identify the poster of the "offending" material. They specifically targeted the ISP. In fact, it seems that it would have been quite trivial to identify the owner of the pages.

    Article from March, 1999 in Wired News

    The implications of this decision are FAR worse than a cursory examination would reveal.

  4. A non-Babelfish translation by kugano · · Score: 5
    Here is a non-Babelfish translation for those who want a better, understandable version :) Enjoy


    The National Assembly passes law requiring Web site authors to identify themselves
    under penalty of imprisonment.


    Summary:
    Web site authors must identify themselves to their hoster before any public
    communication can be made, under penalty of imprisonment.
    In the absence of an identification, the hoster is responsible for the site's
    contents and is liable for up to six months in prison.

    Yesterday, March 22, the national assembly approved an amendment dealing with
    the responsibilities of Web site hosters.

    This law follows from the vote of
    the Senate on January 19 which required Web hosters to disclose the
    identity of any author to a third party under penalty of six months in prison.

    All Web sites whose authors are unknown are the legal responsibility
    of the hoster. In order to free myself from this responsibility I would
    have to obtain the identities of each of altern.org's 48,000 users!

    Of course, the e-commerce industry will be happy. What could be better than
    requiring customers to reveal their identities, leaving you the possibility
    of commercial exploitation?

    The goal of this law seems to be to enact self-censorship on the level of the
    Web hoster, and on the level of the author who, after giving up his identity
    under penalty of imprisonment, has no insurance that his personal identity will
    not be used for unfair profit.

    This vote, however, is not definitive. A third and last reading must take
    place. But it will be a question of reconciling differences in the texts
    put forth by the assembly and by the Senate, so the law could conceivably
    get worse.

    As far as the future of altern.org is concerned, contrary to what I said
    yesterday before reading the law's exact text, I can continue to host
    sites as long as I accept my new role as watchdog.

    [Note: I, the translator, take no responsibility for discrepancies
    between the translation and its original version on altern.org.]

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  5. Grr... by neo-opf · · Score: 5


    Who the heck do the french think they are? Have they ever heard of the Bill of Rights? Don't they realize that we have rights in America that they have to respect. If they don't, we'll have to take them to court. Those Supreme Court guys have this funny tendancy to uphold the constitution.

    French people piss me off.

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