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BeOS For Linux!
Patrick Mullen writes: "Hey, BeOS for Linux has been released. Be doesn't seem to show this off on their page, so I've created a mirror of it. I'm not sure if it works on PPC, but it sure works on Intel.
Download here."
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You can find it at BeOS Network Drivers section at tucows.
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Actually, Amiga was the most advanced OS of its day too. But lets define advanced shall we? If you're talking about networking/server type stuff, BeOS is kind of in the dark ages. If your talking multimedia stuff, BeOS is quite advanced. Look at the rest of the field. All the *NIXs are out, because even if it works, the monolithic kernel design is not very advanced. Then take a look at the other microkernels. Mach is pretty good, but most Mach OSs have a monolithic system server, and Mach IPC is not that great. Take a look at NT. Its a microkernel, it has a HAL, it has mad hardware acceleration, but it has a crufty API and has a lot of crappy code. Take BeOS. You've got a really nice microkernel, a good driver model (interupt handles in kernel, accelerants in server space) a well desgined server model (app, media, audio, graphics, net, input, etc. You can take down a server should it crash, or should you upgrade it, without taking down the whole system. For example, I added a new filer to the input server that would detect my window key and use it to launch the be menu. All I did was copy it into the add-ons directory, and wrote a shell script to kill the input server, wait 5 seconds and restart it. Voila, on the field upgrade. Then there is the BeOS API, which offers you a lot of direct access to hardware and in general makes decent use of acceleration, then you have all the BeOS system services like translators, add-ons, replicants, etc. In fact, aside from a good OpenGL pipline (which should be released soon) the only thing BeOS is lacking is an implementation of COM.
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How the heck many times does this have to be pointed out? Every time someone rants about hypocrisy on Slashdot, it's about "well, I saw one guy on one article saying (X) is bad, and now on this article someone's saying (X) is good, so why aren't they agreeing?" There's a bunch of different opinions here on Slashdot, and articles on different topics are commented on by different sets of people, who may very likely be weighted toward a certain opinion.
For example, someone who thinks the GPL is the One True License, and thus refuses to touch BeOS, wouldn't post here unless he wanted to be a troll.
Someone who reads an article about closed-source games is probably a gamer, and will accept closed-source so they can get their gaming fix.
Meanwhile, an article on a closed-source version of some Linux program, which people were pushing for an OPEN-source version of, could very well cause open-source supporters to post.
Finally, you say, "I'm tired of Unix getting beat up on by you people..." Which people? There are people here who like proprietary Unices and people who hate them. Lumping all of Slashdot into some generalization involving "you people" is where you get the impression that there's hypocrisy.
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Before you talk about how BeOS for Linux is impossible, maybe you should go to BeOS Personal Edition's website and read up on it a bit.
It's worth noting that if you install using the windows executable, you're presented with a licensing agreement you have to agree to. The usual stuff- will not use it for commercial purposes yadayadayada....
BUT installing using the linux tarball doesn't actually give you this license. You get the BFS image file, a boot floppy image and a readme file telling you how to install it. No license agreement. In fact, you don't get told about it until you try to use that installation to install a second one. So, I think Be have made a major mistake here- if you're not presented with the agreement you don't have to agree with it. IANAL of course, but if you're not presented with something to agree to, it seems to make sense that you don't have to agree with it.
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I thought there was a 3c509 driver available but a quick search didn't find it. I suggest you ask on BeUserTalk.
But to find drivers and third-party software for the BeOS, I suggest you try:
Also, while technical support is not available from Be, Inc. for the personal edition, the BeUserTalk mailing list is very good; many BeOS engineers and experienced users frequent it and answer questions.
- Be Mailing Lists
For programmers there is also BeDevTalk and BeCodeTalk.Michael D. Crawford
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It doesn't run in Linux. The file expands to an image of a beos filesytem and a boot floppy image which you write to a floppy and reboot to run it. Essentially it saves the step of creating a new partition although you can do it later once you got Beos running. Secondly, the 40MB files expands to 580MB of which about 1/3 is used up wrt to the beos filesystem! I tried it out today. Beos is very slick looking but the worst part is a lack of hardware support. It doesn't support my 3com 509 card and many others. This thing doesn't look like crippleware like some people say and looks like the real thing. However you will have to download the development stuff later from their ftp site.
BeOS Personal Edition is a free-beer version of BeOS 5.0 designed to be installed in a 500MB volume file hosted on a local FS instead of in its own partition. It comes in two slightly different packages -- one, already announced before now on /., is to be installed on a Win9x and NT machine. This one is designed be installed on a Linux machine.
Except for the fact that it's located in an existing FS instead of in its own partition, it is a completely separate OS.
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Ok, I keep seeing people post stuff that isn't true about the BeOS "Personal edition" so here are the _facts_ /beos, use the boot disk and you're off.
BeOS 5 PE is NOT a trial version, crippled or an "evaluation".
It is the entire OS, all of it.. just the same BeOS "Pro Version"
It IS BeOS..
Another thing.
The title of the article is wrong.. The linux "version" just includes a readme, be partition image and a bootdisk image.
Copy the image to
Im guessing it's just for users of OS's other then windows, since they wouldn't be able to run the installer exe that the windows "version" needs.
Also, BeOS "PE" does support SMP, and various other things.
You just have to use the bootdisk, instead of using the windows loader.
(Windows 9x disables all the other CPU's)
Also, you are NOT limited to just the BFS image partition.
Once you have it running, you can use Installer to copy/install BeOS (your current setyp) to any other partition.
So, make some free space, run BeOS from the image and install it there.
Summary: BeOS 5 PE is the entire OS, it has no limitations.
The only thing different between PE and the Pro version is what Be has told you. Realplayer, mp3 encoders (which you can download anyway) etcetc.
Do not let anyone fool you, including Be.
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/.ed skippy]). The OS's that can be used with the personal edition are Win9x and NT/2k, and Linux on the Intel platform. This is due to the fact that Apple will not supply the required hardware specifications to Be (not because of the NeXT over BeOS crap, just because Apple when with NeXT doesn't mean Be would ditch a platform's user base, because when your company is that small, you can't ditch users by choice).
- inBeOS help, or BeOS info in general, feel happy to e-mail me at the above address (figure it out :)
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Free BeOS R5, aka, BeOS 5 Personal Edition was release on the 28th of March. The "Personal Edition" is made up of an compressed disk image that "uncompresses" to 500meg (only around 200 is used).
The Personal Edition only works in conjuction with another OS (however this can be worked around, see http://skippy.dhs.org [sorry if you get
This "BeOS for Linux" is the same OS that was released for Windows on the 28th. It DOES NOT have Linux, or Windows, running behind it. It is a full release of BeOS R5, only lacking a few commercial apps (just like some Linux distros). A belive the Linux "version" boots off a floppy just as the NT/2k version does.
If anyone wants any non-my-video/sound/net/isdn/winmodem-doesn't-work
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