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Interesting Way To Protest Napster

^Gargoyle^ writes: "Here's an interesting way one Napster user is causing problems for Napster. In a nutshell, he's creating songs that are exactly the same length as a legitimate song, but with an annoying cukoo sound in place of the song. An interesting way to protest copyright infringement." This is the best form of protest I've seen so far... it makes pirating copyrighted music more difficult, without doing something stupid like trying to make peer-to-peer networking illegal or making it illegal to rip your own CDs. Mind you lots of Fingerbang fans are gonna be really annoyed when they waste all that download time!

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  1. Trust Model by Ex+Machina · · Score: 5

    Several people have mentioned using a trust model. So here's an example of one http://www.advogato.org/trust-metric.html

  2. Stopnapster.com by traused · · Score: 4
    A small band called the Tabloids is trying to promout such attacts on Napster.

    There website www.stopnapster.com is trying to convice artist and user of napster to post "Napster bombs" and "Trojan Horse MP3s" to protect artists copyrights. The authours themself say they cannot do this, as there website is done on a Mac.

    Apparently they think that enough people will do this to stop mp3 swaping on napster.

    I dont think it will work very well. Look at the site. Rather poorly done website in my opinion.

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  3. Funny, but..... by Deeter · · Score: 4

    The problem with this particular approach is that it will never go beyond the first person who downloads it. If he could come up with something that isn't immediately appearant but becomes increasingly more annoying, it would probably work a lot better.

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  4. Re:Simple solution... by um...+Lucas · · Score: 5

    1 - There's no guarentee that all songs will have the same signature, unless people only distribute files from the same exact source - 1 person posts it and everyone else replicates it. Different CD drives, different sound cards, etc, will make small differences.

    2 - Though that's an issue, it'd be great for Napster to incorporated MD5 into their servers. That way, bands that didn't want to be part of it could present Napster with a list of signatures of files that were theirs and say "Please prevent the transfer of files with these signatures". As they found variances of them, they could present those to Napster as well, though pretty soon Napster would be a legitamate service with 20,000 users trading about 500 songs and no commercial viability.

  5. Post makes no sense... by Carnage4Life · · Score: 4

    How is posting bogus files harmful to Napster's interests unless Napster's purpose is to violate copyrighted materials.

    It seems to me that if Napster acts against what this protester is doing then by all rights they are no longer a service provider but admitting that they are in the business of providing content (in this case copyrighted music that they have no right to distribute). Doing this would invalidate all the arguments about Napster not being in business specifically to violate the copyright of artists and record labels and instead reinforce the greedy VC funded company trying to get rich of other peoples work image.
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  6. Simple answer: Karma by longword · · Score: 4

    Moderation has worked well for slashdot. I see a bright future for it in the Napster network.

    Paul.

  7. Minor Solution by jyuter · · Score: 5

    Mind you lots of Fingerbang fans are gonna be really annoyed when they waste all that download time

    Not really. You can listen to partially downloaded MP3's off of Napster so you can check after a minute if you are really downloading what you think you are.

    It still is annoying, but not as bad as you might think.



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  8. Not a bad idea but... by Animol · · Score: 5

    In addition, Napster reserves the right to terminate the account of a user and to block use of the Napster service permanently upon any single infringement of the rights of others in conjunction with use of the Napster service, or if Napster believes that user conduct is harmful to the interests of Napster.

    ...such as people that post bogus files for that reason. Understood that yes, they too would be violating copyright laws and the terms of use, but this guy is interfering with the service that they're attempting to provide. If they're identified, they should be banned. (After all, it does infringe upon other's use of the service!)

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  9. I've been doing this for the other side for months by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5

    I've been encoding /dev/urandom (don't wanna waste that entropy!) into MP3s with names in the format:

    Fuck $group - This Is Not "$song".mp3

    for a long time now. I think I'm being perfectly legal; I am 1) obviously voicing an opinion, and 2) explicitly not providing copyrighted works. However, anyone searching for $group or $song is going to get a hit from my collection, and any automated "ban bot" is going to add me (unfairly and incorrectly) to its wrongdoers list. I assure you that I'm perfectly comfortable meeting any would-be persecutors head on.

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  10. Copyright Infringement by Dungeon+Dweller · · Score: 5

    What about the copyright on the cukoo sound? Isn't somebody going to sue him for stealing their soundbyte?

    Me, I live and let live, what he wants to do with his computer and time... Is his business...

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  11. Trusting users by YoJ · · Score: 5
    If things like this proliferate, I predict that the Napster community will move to a "popularity/trust" model. Sort of like Ebay, where you leave positive and negative feedback. So if someone downloads a song they have been looking for, and it turns out to be the wrong song or a low-quality encoding, they can leave negative feedback on the person who served the song. All Napster has to do is publish each person's rating next to the songs they provide, and this tactic will die a quick death. Low quality encodings, and encodings with ads (if they ever appear) would also fall by the wayside.

    One thing the Net has taught us: peer review and "egoboo" are powerful forces. (Yes, I read about egoboo in Wired, so sue me.)

    nojw

  12. Ahhh, by MoOsEb0y · · Score: 5

    but they don't know about opennap. Even windoze users can participate using napigator. Problem solved. And if they do get smart enough to use that, there's always the ignore feature.

  13. Idiot by Seumas · · Score: 5
    While Stefanie has gotten a bunch more people to hear her music and had a few more hits on her website, she has also taken more heat than you can imagine... Remember, most of the folks who heard her music didn't want to hear her music and were probably expecting something completely different. We didn't just label it as music that sounded like hers, and thereby reach out to her udience. Instead we labeled it as everything! Not a lot of Kid Rock or Black Sabbath fans that can appreciate a good old folk/pop tune, eh?

    He uses the above statement to explain that this is not a stunt to get attention for his wife and her "music", yet he just explained that they decided to use Kid Rock, Black Sabbath and other popular band names to get people to listen to it, because they probably would not listen to it otherwise.

    So which is it -- a stunt to gain attention for her or not? He says he's not doing it for that reason, and then goes on to say exactly that, but in other words!

    Another thing to bear in mind in regards to Stefanie and this being her gravy train - when we started the project we didn't want to steal other peoples music to use for the eggs and we didn't want to just use noise, so we used the music close at hand with the approval of the artist. All of the bands and or musician friends we approached said, great idea - we support you. This was generally followed by their saying they didn't want to participate for fear of the backlash. Others got bogged down in band meetings about differences of opinion about what to do and never gave the ok.

    No, instead, you decided that it would just be better to steal their names. Copyrighted names of bands and songs, mind you! So you're not only riding on the coat-tails of bands that actually produce something people want to hear, but you're infringing on their product! This is like selling Tab in a Pepsi or Coke can!

    I don't suppose these people have considered the fact that a lot of artists DO want their music to be available via Napster and don't mind that it is traded around. But I guess these cocky SOBs wouldn't have thought about that possibility, because they're too busy rigging publicity stunts.
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  14. Re:Simple solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    That may not work - there are dozens of slightly different yet still legit copies of the same song floating around on the napster network - no two mp3 encoders work alike, and other factors like ID3 tags render checksumming useless.

  15. Signal to Noise Ratio by StaticLimit · · Score: 5

    Ever try to download warez?

    Since it's illegal, of course I never have... but hypothetically, if I had, I would have found that there are so many useless links and sites with infinite loops of pop-up porn ads, that the whole thing is pretty much a pointless waste of time. In fact, I wonder if it's designed that way? Some of the sites were so devoid of content, buried under endless popup windows, that I began to suspect conspiracy by the software industry.

    Flooding Napster with static, or setting up sites that disconnect users halfway through any download, or doing anything else that substantially lowers the average quality of Napster would drive away a number of quality users and perpetuate the cycle.

    In fact, I suspect that over a short time, this will happen naturally anyway!

    - StaticLimit