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Webclipping Slashdot for Palm VII

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the whay-to-go dept.

Patrick 'CaptTofu' Galbraith has completed a palm interface to Slashdot that you can access from this location if you're using the Palm VII's Web Clippings. Feel free to send him thanks/bugs/suggestions/feraris if you're moved to. Update: 07/29 12:15 AM by CT : Avantgo users could try this URL and consider deprecating the old use of light more.

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  1. Re:Comparison between Palm VII and Omnisky? by Pontiphex · · Score: 2

    If you want easy, painless wireless get the PalmVII (or wait for the newer PalmVIIx - it will have 8MB of RAM instead of just 2MB) If you want fast, truly tcp/ip access, get the Omnisky. I have both a PalmVII and a PalmVx with OmniSky and I love the OmniSky. You can even telnet and irc from the palm (and VNC too). Omnisky is a more expensive initial cash outlay, but right now they have a program where you get a $150 rebate after you have paid for 6 months of service. The service is also cheaper than Palms (if you are talking unlimited bandwidth - which is the only way to fly IMO). You also have the option of waiting for Omnisky's Springboard for Visor's. That will probably yield your best bet if you don't want a PalmV. --b

  2. Re:Screenshots ? by generic-man · · Score: 2

    I was able to download a Palm VII ROM and the emulator (I had previously signed up as a developer) but I couldn't get the PQA's to work. I apparently needed to go through the same activation procedure as any other Palm VII user, including providing a credit card for billing. Are there ways to use PQA's in a developer-type environment without signing up?

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  3. Avantgo by CaptTofu2 · · Score: 2

    If you wanna use Avantgo, just create a custom channel with the URL http://slashdot.org/palm

    1. Re:Avantgo by strredwolf · · Score: 2
      It needs a bit of reworking. Seriously.

      First of all, it should have the twenty recent posts on the front page. In bold, please.

      Second, the description pages for each post should have the top 10 scored comments listed automatically, and, of course, trunicated to about 5K overall.

      Think how a such a site would work. I don't want to use a 5-level pull for 250K of site when I only view about 40k of it. I mean, the organization needs alot of work. Maybe have a special Palm section for our accounts: One to activate, another to set how it's viewed. Then http://www.slashdot.org/palm would be a form that's filled out on the Palm/Avantigo.



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    2. Re:Avantgo by IHateEverybody · · Score: 2


      It needs a bit of reworking. Seriously.

      I just found out about it now but my first impression is that it's not that bad. It looks like it should work better than my current solution -- a second account with that uses the light settings. That still leaves in a lot of garbage. (Do we really need to have the "about" and "advertising" pages accessible from every page when dealing with a two inch screen?) This setup usually grabs the top five or so comments if I'm lucky. If I'm not, the comments pages for most stories are inaccessible to me because the AvantGo conduit either times out or goes over the 1.5MB limit I've set for it. Either way it takes a long time to hotsync this way.

      First of all, it should have the twenty recent posts on the front page. In bold, please.

      I'd prefer a link to the twenty most recent posts instead.

      Second, the description pages for each post should have the top 10 scored comments listed automatically, and, of course, trunicated to about 5K overall.

      That sounds pretty good.

      Think how a such a site would work. I don't want to use a 5-level pull for 250K of site when I only view about 40k of it.

      That's still a huge improvement over a 2-level pull that still chews up 1100KB for viewing 40-60KB of information.

      I mean, the organization needs alot of work.

      It's still a huge improvement over previous methods.

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  4. Slashdot via Email by AntiPasto · · Score: 2
    For pocketmail devices, I threw together my own scripts that parse the .WML to give me just the latest headlines, and story bodies. Anyone doing similar?

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  5. Does it have to be? by yerricde · · Score: 2


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  6. Re:Is it open source? by CaptTofu2 · · Score: 3

    Huh? Chill out. It'll be on sourceforge when I put it up there by the end of today. I just haven't gotten around to it. I wanted it to work first. This is part of slashcode, slashcode is open source, therefore, the code for this is open source.

  7. Re:PQA? by cmeans · · Score: 2
    It's little more than HTML that's "compiled" for use on the Palm. Only a few of the basic HTML tags are supported, but enough to make it useful.

    Go to Palm for developer info.

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  8. I know it's not official... by generic-man · · Score: 4

    ...and I haven't tried it, but this PQA has been out since April of last year, according to Palm.net's web site.

    Almost makes me want to get a Palm VII, though... :)

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  9. Re:What does this one add? by sjames · · Score: 2

    I've been using the RG consulting /. PQA for a while. The two advantages I see to the official one are the ability to read comments (depending on the troll factor that might or might not be an advantage :-). The other is that there is one less server in the loop so reliability goes up.

  10. and the point is? by Richy_T · · Score: 2
    who needs web clipping? I'm posting this from a palm V with Eudora-web.

    Rich

  11. Comparison between Palm VII and Omnisky? by Mark+F.+Komarinski · · Score: 3

    Anyone care to comment on the service (price, quality, availability) between the two? I have a Palm III now, but might want to upgrade in a few months.

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    1. Re:Comparison between Palm VII and Omnisky? by Drakino · · Score: 3

      I love my OmniSky modem. It's unlimited, works with PQA's (like the one above or the existing /. one), and gives you a real internet connection, so things like ICQ, Telnet, and remote syncing work. The telnet alone could be an excuse for your boss to pay for it. "I need this, so when I'm not at work, I can still fix the servers, yeah, thats it."

      Also, right now, the modem comes with a $150 rebate if you stay for 6 months.

      The advantage to having a modem is you can just pop it off and keep the sleek form factor when only needing PDA access.

      OmniSky's support is execelent. They have also treated the beta team very well (Free service during the beta, 15% off the rate plan, a free carying case, and the $150 rebate).

      I definitly have to recommend OmniSky above the Palm VII for anyone with a Palm V (or soon a Visor).

    2. Re:Comparison between Palm VII and Omnisky? by Spasemunki · · Score: 2

      I'd wait before buying up to the VII. Palm has announced that wireless access will be available on all their Palm lines (the V and the III, including the color model) soon, probably by the end of the year, if I recall. Adding wireless capabilities to the IIIxe will obsolete the VII, which is basically just a III with that nifty antenna on the side. Plus, they'll be more options once they add wireless to the whole line.. There was an article on /. a little while ago in the palm section on the announcement, which might be found here.


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  12. Re:bias? (Say NO to AvantGO) by nrrrdboy · · Score: 2

    Read the freakin reference man! Do I say anything about their HTML? No! If an AvantGo is just like any other Web site (but without HTML whistles) then give me the URLs to those 'just like any other site'. The problem is the conduit.

  13. I'd better not buy a Palm VII... by fonebone · · Score: 3

    If I had a Palm VII, I would be rendered completely useless, since I would be able to do nothing but look at slashdot 24/7.

    At least now, power shortages can stop me..

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  14. That reminds me... by FascDot+Killed+My+Pr · · Score: 4

    I was checking out Slashcode.com the other day because I wanted to submit some patches to create some desperately needed features (killfiles and nick-changing). But then I realized that while some patches have been submitted, none have ever been accepted. What's up with this. Also, if they ever DO get accepted, will they ever run on slashdot.org?
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  15. WAP by nstrug · · Score: 3
    How about a WAP interface? All the major news sites have them BBC, CNN etc.

    And surely it can't be too hard to do as I'm sure the slashdot guys would have had the foresight to do all their content management in XML and therefore just need to knock up a quick XSL to do the translation into WML...

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  16. bias? by wishus · · Score: 5

    Slashdot has never "officially" supported a PDA interface before.. If you're going to go to the trouble of writing one, an official one, you should have created and AvantGo channel. That way Palm users (of any Palm), Handspring users, TRG Pro users, and, yes, even Pocket PC/Win CE users could get it on thier PDA.

    Yes, I know AvantGo can read the "stripped-down" HTML version, but why not make an official AvantGo channel that looks good, with a little graphic or something. It seems this would reach a larger audience.

    Maybe it wouldn't be as cool as wireless though..

    It's an idea.

    wish
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    1. Re:bias? by Sethb · · Score: 3

      Absolutely. I love AvantGo, I use it to read Salon, The Onion, Fox News, etc. It's great when you've got 5 minutes to kill before a meeting starts, or you're waiting while your oil is changed, or to get a haircut. Why would I want to read stale beauty magazines when I could have tech and national news as recent as the last time I hit the HotSync button on my Visor?

      I currently use the "light" version of Slashdot with AvantGo, and it rather sucks. It's usable, but not pretty, and forget trying to read comments. I'd love a configurable AvantGo channel that would let me read comments at +2 and above, with nice formatting...

      I'm not much of a programmer, so I haven't really looked at the specs, but how hard is it to write an AvantGo channel?
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  17. AvantGo/similar? by Mike+Bridge · · Score: 4

    when are we gonna get a avantgo channel/super lean version of slashdot that shows up good (i.e. no tables, intelligently placed content) for slashdot?

  18. Re:PQA? by sjames · · Score: 2

    A PQA is made up of a subset of HTML and images. The HTML is tokenized and compressed into a 5 bit data format.

    Palm provides a windows based PQA compiler. I have a GPL compiler/decompiler posted at www.linuxlabs.com/software/linpqa.htm l. It's early alpha but it is useable (I've used it anyway).

  19. Re:bias? (Say NO to AvantGO) by nrrrdboy · · Score: 2

    AvantGo fragments the Web and encourages sites to remove their Palm accessible content in favor content available only through their propietary interface. Read about it at: http://goatee.net/2000/06#19mo

  20. Why do it closed? by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    ok, ONLY for the palm VII what about my qualicomm PDQ? what about my Palm IIIx that has a radiomodem on it's back? The palm VII is the least sold palm, while the Qualicomm is screaming off the shelves (Verizon has a 3 week waiting list and we are purchasing 5 more for the office!)

    Gimmie the source and I'll hack it together for the rest of the palm devices!

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  21. Other Palms by Err · · Score: 2

    Yep, I've got a Plam Vx with a CDPD modem. I didn't buy it through OmniSky, so I don't have the app for PQA support...
    The 'light' version of /. comes through okay with Avantgo or EudoraWeb, though.
    Anyone know if there's a free/open app for PQA support on non-Palm VIIs?

    -Dave

  22. Re:bias? (Say NO to AvantGO) by wishus · · Score: 2
    Read the freakin reference man! Do I say anything about their HTML? No! If an AvantGo is just like any other Web site (but without HTML whistles) then give me the URLs to those 'just like any other site'. The problem is the conduit.

    Yes, I read the reference. Then I explained to you how AvantGo works. Now I will give you some URLs, as per your request, to show you that AvantGo does not fragment the web. All the conduit does is cache HTML pages and store them on your device. You might want to quit believing everything you read. That guy from your link didn't know what he was talking about and neither do you.

    http://avantgo.hollywood.com/
    http://www.pdalive.com/avantgo/
    http://avantgo.10best.com/
    http://www.women.com/avantgo/horoscopes/
    http://www.all-legends.com/avantgo/
    http://www.mapquest.com/avantgo/

    Anything else you'd like to add?
    wish
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  23. Re:Am I doing something wrong? by MostlyHarmless · · Score: 2

    See the smiley right after the dashed line?

    Now you get it...

    (admittedly, it wasn't that funny in the first place, but w/e. And yerricide, if you know someone named Himu, tell him Jacob says hi.)
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  24. Works well... by NetJunkie · · Score: 2

    I've used this one for a while and it works pretty well too.

  25. Re:bias? (Say NO to AvantGO) by wishus · · Score: 2
    AvantGo is nothing more than a web browser.

    The AvantGo service just keeps track of your favorite sites and allows you to download them into your pda when you sync with your computer. Handy. You can view any web page with the AvantGo viewer / service. I currently have AvantGo fetch my SETI@home stats every time I sync.

    If you read the documentation about how to create an AvantGo channel, you will see that is is nothing more than a HTML file on a webserver somewhere. Yes, they encourage you to use a subset of HTML because their browser can't do things like tables... but it's still HTML.

    Last time I checked, a popular console browser among linux enthusiasts only recognized a subset of HTML as well. No one accuses lynx of fragmenting the web. Do some research on AvantGo before you blast it.

    From AvantGo Developer Resources: "In its most basic form, an AvantGo channel is just another web site.There's more to it than that, of course. An AvantGo channel page doesn't contain all the bells and whistles you might see on, say, a web page in Internet Explorer 5.0. But if you know how to create a web page, you can make yourself an AvantGo channel."

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  26. Re:What city please? by Drakino · · Score: 2

    Most has been done in Colorado Springs, with a bit on I-25 to Denver, around the Dallas and Austin areas of TX, and in LA. So far, it's been decent in all these areas. The complete coverage map is at http://www.omnisky.com/products/coverage.jhtml