Debian 2.2 Potato Is Stable

batsman was among the countless folks to announce that Potato is now Stable... i.e., Debian 2.2 has been released. The ISO is available, but I'm not linking (not because I'm an elitist (although I am) but to at least try to let the mirrors do their thing). No official word outside of mailing lists, but the 'stable' directory is now Potato. Congrats to all the ever slaving Debian developers... time to dist-upgrade those boxes that aren't already running woody! It's official now since the release is on Debian's site *grin*

Comments

I know what's going on....

[Bob the Destroyer]

CmdrTaco is just keeping everyone away by not posting the links while he gets prime download time....

I really like debian's release system.

[evilned]

Ok, there are gonna be alot of people bitching about how slow debian is on releases. Well, if you are gonna run a server, running the latest and greatest is a bad idea. With the long testing periods, when a release makes stable, you know damn well its stable. As for those who want to be on the bleeding edge, there is the unstable directory. I run stable on anything like a server, but on my personal machine, where I like to play with the latest Helixcode gnome, the unstable is great. Debian's release system give you the information so that you can make a somewhat informed decision on stability vs. being current, and I appreciate that.

Re:I really like debian's release system.

[timmyd]

most people don't run dselect. apt-get is the utility of choice for some. here is a small guide.

• add deb location and woody/potato to /etc/apt/sources.list
• type apt-get update for a list of packages
• type apt-get install program-name to install a program
• type apt-get remove program-name to remove a program
• type apt-cache search substring to search for packages
• type apt-cache show package-name to show info about a package
• apt-get upgrade to get all the latest ones

unlike dselect, apt doesn't fool with all the suggested packages and just gets the ones you need

Potato install guide

[Greg W.]

For those who are new to this, please start by reading the potato install guide. I seriously doubt that pre-burned CDs are available yet, but network installations should be possible.

The main web page (www.debian.org) still isn't updated, but we can't have everything, can we? ;-)

useful links

[semis]

Full list of mirrors: http://www.debian.org/misc/README.mirrors

The (mirrored) official announcement from Martin Schulze: http://www.ids.org.au/ian/potato- announcement.txt.

Remeber, irc.debian.org (open projects) #debian, and #mashpotato for support.
And remember, before asking anything, '/msg apt install guide' !

Also, mark_, netsnipe, and raja have worked hard to bring you MashPotato (The Mobile Array of Support Helpers for Potato ), visit the website: http://www.linuxgiant.com/debian/

Enjoy!

Re:One reason *not* to link ...

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Hey, if you are in Poland, you're probably doing something else with potatoes anyway. ;-)

Excellent. When will woody freeze?

[RobotSlave]

I'm ecstatic about this news, because now my clients (as in, the people who pay me :) can run php4 on a stable debian (I've been tiding them over with apache 1.3.12+php built from source).

What I'm wondering now is when we can expect to see woody freeze. I apologize for not following the debian-devel list and picking up the debate on my own-- I'd feel like a creep lurking on the devel list for a project that I don't have time to commit to (Some day, debian, I will give back to you, but now is not the time... ).

My suggestion would be to commit to a freeze as soon as the 2.4 kernel is released. My simple-minded resoning is that Xfree 4.0 plus the new kernel should be sufficient reason to push a new stable release out the door.

I suspect that the issue has been discussed in much greater detail on the devel mailing list, and that there are many different schools of thought on the matter. I guess I fall into a hypothetical "updates to >n major packages warrant a new release" school of thought. I hold this view mostly due to frustration-- e.g., I was really upset when I learned that I could not build php out of CVS due to outdated gnu tools in slink.

But enough of my rambling. What we really need here is an update from someone intimate with the devel list. If there is consensus on when woody ought to freeze, what is it? If the matter is still being debated, what are the various viewpoints?

p.s. to debian weekly news: This is the sort of thing we would love to see covered, but I know Joey is spread pretty thin to begin with (perhaps because he's both very productive and quite tactful, to boot? ). Commentary from someone not intimate with the project might be welcome, as an addition to dwn, just as it might be unwelcome as an addition to the devel list.

p.p.s. to (lwn | dwn | linuxworld | linuxtoday) : If you're willing to remburse someone, modestly, to lurk and cover debian-devel, put a notice up on your site (or better yet, just drop me a line :).

Re:Excellent. When will woody freeze?

[joey]

The above post should be moderated up, and not just because it says nice things about me :-)

Anyway, we've discussed it less than you would expect so far. Common views include:

• We should get X 4, not wait for the kernel (which may not come out this year), and release then, probably as 2.1.1 or something.
  
• We should release with X 4 and the 2.4 kernel and an many updates as we can cram in
  
• Something else.
  

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Use the mirrors. PSU's was incredibly fast.

[Wakko Warner]

I've already downloaded and burned all three ISO images. I got them at about 400K/s off PSU's mirror. You can get a list of all mirrors, most of which probably have the thing by now, here.

- A.P.
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"One World, one Web, one Program" - Microsoft promotional ad

Am I missing something?

[Lion-O]

Everyone is talking about stable potato's. What ever happened to the "Joel 'Espy' Klecker" release (also peek at the Debian site? Is your memory (pointed at the posters in here who referred to Potato) really that short termed? Its not potato thats gone stable; its espy.

-Personal rant ON-
This makes me kinda sick. Even though I don't know Espy, never chatted with 'm and heard from him when he passed away, I really have a strange feeling after reading the /. story about his death and all the comments on it. Everyone sympathized yet no one is able to remeber the posting for even 1 month? Do a search on 'Espy' on this page and it turns out to nothing. Thats a strange way of showing that you sympathized with the going ons IMVHO.
-Personal rant OFF-