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Vorsprung durch Pinguin (Linux Top In .de-domains)

A reader writes " According to the German Heise Newsticker Linux is the top server for .de-domains both in terms of IP addresses and domain names hosted. The survey carried out by the company iKu Netzwerklösungen surveyed all of almost 2.5 million connected .de-domains distributed over 205.540 IP addresses with the port scanner nmap. 44 percent of IP addresses surveyed were hosted by Linux, 30 percent by Windows. In terms of domain names hosted Linux has an even greater lead, with over 1.1 million domaines. Solaris follows with about 850,000 names, of which 180,000 are hosted on just two Solaris boxes belonging to Germany's biggest webspace provider Strato. Windows follows in 3rd place with just 10%. " Check out the fish if you don't jive deutsch.

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  1. Why is Germany exporting jobs then? by Hairy_Potter · · Score: 3

    If it wasn't for the high cost of doing business in Europe due to the Socialist policies.

    Of course, I'm referring to the BMW and Mercedes plants that were built in the US to avoid confiscatory German/Socialist policies. When manufacturing jobs are migrating to the US you know something is wrong.

    And you're always reading about the inability of German firms to get enough technical IT workers. It's partly due to the IT boom, but also do to the oppressive employment policies of German businesses making full time, direct hire prohibitively expensive. Enter the guest worker, does anyone know if MS is running MCSE boot camps in Turkey? They should.

    Thankfully, dubya is leading in the polls in the states, with a Replublican majority in the house they might be able to reverse American's socialist decline.

    1. Re:Why is Germany exporting jobs then? by Nexx · · Score: 3

      Of course, I'm referring to the BMW and Mercedes plants that were built in the US to avoid confiscatory German/Socialist policies. When manufacturing jobs are migrating to the US you know something is wrong.

      of course, this could also be a result of exclusionary and protective tarrifs that the US enacts to all automotive imports. Due to these tarrifs that are imposed on Asian and European imports, many such automotive companies are setting up shop in Mexico (where labour costs are cheaper than the US), or in the US itself, to avoid protectionist tarrifs.

      If BMW and Daimler-Chrysler were to avoid "German Taxes", then they would move their entire operations elsewhere, not just their manufacturing plants.


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  2. Re:205.540 IP addresses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    The Continential European style is to denote thousands with a '.' and use ',' as a decimal seperator.

    They do it just to annoy Americans and the English. :-)

  3. Of what true value is this? by Proteus · · Score: 5
    I think that the main point that can be gleaned from this survey is that many, many ISP's choose Linux as thier hosting OS. This makes sense because of low TCO (especially since ISP sysadmins usually have UNIX experience), and very short bugfix release timeframes.

    However, a survey like this cannot answer the question that PHB's and corporate Sysadmins everywhere want answered: What are successful companies using for mission-critical appliacations?

    At the moment, I don't think anyone can answer that directly, but I would like to see tech magazines survey businesses to see what they are using, and in what capacity. I would suspect that, at least for now, MS has the lead in medium-to-large corporations for mission-critical applications -- but the fact remains there is no data to back this up.

    #disclaimer -- I don't like MS, but I believe in every OS having a place.

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  4. Re:question. You cannot just look at TLD anymore by Hammer · · Score: 3

    Why are you interested in stats on the *.us domains? Wouldn't .com, .net, .org be more interesting?

    No not really. There is no saying where a site is located based on the TLD. A .us or .ca may indicate that it is located in the US or in Canada. The .com, .net etc TLD's are now truly global. I work for a Canadian company with a .com address, read Swedish newspapers with .com addresses.

    The internet is truly global and every attempt at pinning down physical location based on simple TLD filters is bound to fail.

  5. Damned Europeans by msouth · · Score: 5

    They just don't seem to get the "Microsoft, everywhere, all the time" dogma. It's a wonder anything works over there.


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  6. Re:question., by generic-man · · Score: 3

    You can muck around on Netcraft all day compiling lists of .com, .net, and .org domains, but there's no guarantee that they're all American domains. The only truly American TLD is .us, which is used chiefly for government-entity web sites, such as The State of New York and my school district's pathetic attempt at a web page. Due to its modular nature, the difficulty in getting even a response from the .us domain people (took me several months last time I tried) and the overall ugliness of the resultant URL's, .us is a very unpopular domain.

    On the other hand, just about every web site in .de is a German organization.

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  7. Who cares? by _xeno_ · · Score: 5
    This isn't really supposed to be a troll, so I'll try and provide rational arguments, but... who cares about the number of Linux servers being higher than anything else?

    The number of Linux servers compared to Solaris servers is largely meaningless because a Sparc can handle more of a load than a simple x86. Yes, Linux is available on a Sparc. But why bother? If you're going to get a UltraSparc 10, why get another OS when you can get Solaris 8 supported as part of the package? If you can afford $8000 for the machine, Solaris is a viable and usually more useful option than Linux. (Mostly because you can also get a support contract.)

    A useful comparison might be to compare what the majority of Linux servers are used for compared to Solaris and Windows servers. Are the Linux servers running e-commerce sites? Or are they running the standard Apache home page because httpd was in the default init script?

    Linux is used by many hobbyists - how many of those boxes where just boxes set up for personal use? I dunno how cheap broadband is in Germany, but it's a possibility.

    Like all statistics, take these with a grain of salt - the fact that the cheapest method of serving a web server is the most widely used really doesn't mean anything. I'd expect a survey of college students who run their own web pages to come up with a large collection of Linux, followed by Windows, and then maybe the free-as-in-beer Solaris offerings.

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  8. Methods... by KFury · · Score: 4

    That's funny. I go portscanning entire domains and my ISP gets mad. they do it and they get a post on ./ .

    Not to play devil's advocate, but how accurate are these numbers when you consider that firewalls can easily spoof or block portscan attempts?

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  9. Re:german != deutsch by mcolin · · Score: 3

    Nope.
    Deutsch/German is spoken in .de
    Holländisch/Dutch is spoken in .nl

  10. thoughts by 'This+is+false.' · · Score: 3

    I would imagine this extends to the rest of Western Europe as well, because despite the language differences, the cultures and economies were quite similar. The fact that their economies are doing quite as well will also make them a little less wasteful and linux is an excellent way to do that.

    I bet for one, most of the governments over there use Linux because they would rather not give money to some American company. Atleast with linux they can argue there are Germans who have had a hand in making it and they aren't spending money.

    It's also interest that a full 7% of the domains refused to respond. I'm not an expert here, does anybody know why that would be so high?

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