Michael Ethetton - Special Guest in #Palm

Smev writes: "Today, (Friday) Michael Ethetton (a.k.a. 'Maven') of Gambit Studios, author of Liberty for PalmOS, will make a special guest appearence in #palm (efnet). Not only will you be able chat with him, but he will be giving away 2 copies of the Liberty GameBoy emulator as well. This will be happening after 9pm Central. You can connect via http://www.palminfocenter.com/chat.asp or connect to any efnet server with an IRC client and join #Palm. Connect to #Palm for more information."

Comments

Re:Palm Virus

[Lamont]

Yeah, someone did. The author of the real Liberty. Wrote a little "crack" for liberty that wiped anyone's Palm who installed it. The guy is a real asshole, don't support him or his software....

The Threat of Emulators

[jjr]

Emulators threaten companies like Nintendo, Sega, Sony ... etc. They are scared of this technology instead they should embrace it they would increase thier sales have them start selling ROMS of old games they can create a new market for themselves or try to fight this. I doubt they would try and create a new market.

Re:The Threat of Emulators

[alleria]

I believe that the companies that make the hardware don't own the rights to the greater majority of old roms in many cases.

Thus, they see no great incentive to support the emu market, but instead (rightfully) see roms as being a 'competitor' of sorts to titles that are being published for their current platform.

Re:Why does /. do this?

[JabberWokky]

I mean, the Gameboy system and its interfaces and protocols are the property of Nintendo. The games are the property of whoever puts them out. Why does /. publicize, and thus legitimize, criminals?

Whoa... hold on a second... the Gameboy system is the property of Nintendo, yes. That's about all that you've got right.

Let's start out easy - the games are not the sole property of those who wrote them, as Nintendo licenses each and every one, and has quite a say in what is allowed to be put out as a "Gameboy Game". Does this seem fair? Let's put it this way: what if Intel charged thousands of dollars for every piece of hardware that interfaces to, and every piece of software that runs on the 80x86 series and demanded royalties.

Well, hell, you say... Intel can so this if they want (just like Nintendo's "right" to?). The Pentium's interfaces and protocols are the property of Intel, right? Then Slashdot has criminal CATEGORIES on this site... AMD, Cyrix and Transmeta are all thevin' stinkin' criminals.

Damn those high paid engineers that work for AMD. Nobody should publicize, and thus legitimize those criminals, eh?

And Transmeta even does it with software emulation running on custom chips. Dirty bastards.

One of these days, someone will come along with a perfect emulator that runs Linux, Mac and Windows binaries on any processor. We can only hope that the governments of the world will have come to their senses and the creators will be shot in bed.

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Evan (Who is really getting tired of people confusing the *ability* to commit a crime with *committing* a crime, owns loads of NES carts, and enjoys tuxnes).

Re:Why does /. do this?

[JabberWokky]

As I say in another message above, explain to me how AMD processors are an artifact whose main use is software piracy, and then we could have a rational discussion. Since you can't, your analogy stutters and dies.

Apparantly you are unaware of the thriving GameBoy programming culture that are all producing home-brew rom images. Nintendo tries to suppress this activity, but the general consensus (back by prior court rulings) is that if anybody stood up to Nintendo (like Connectix did to Sony), then they would win.

After all, it is your code that you are writing, free of any license, and you are running it on a program that someone else (hopefully) clean room replicated.

You are also probably unaware of the fact that Nintendo considers romdumpers illegal (devices that allow you to use your legally purchaced roms on your legally purchaced emulator on your legally purchaced computer or handheld). This is despite the fact that the (US) courts have upheld that it is a consumer right to change the format (CD to tape or minidisc, for example, or Cable to VHS tape), that you are buying a copy of the information, and it is not tied to the media in the courts' eyes.

I'm hoping that you're not a troll, and this won't turn into a flamefest. Please tell me how Nintendo and its product is different than any other company who produces a product that is duplicated by another company, like IBM's BIOS roms and Phoenix.

(Ironically, I don't think I've ever played a GameBoy. My SO has a NeoGeo Pocket Color, though, and I own an NES).

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Evan

Palm Virus

[DanMcS]

Well, it doesn't happen for an hour yet, so I guess it's not too late to post this. Didn't someone make a palm trojan that came in the guise of this same program, Liberty? Here is one link I found, on zdnet. So if you go to this chat, and someone offers to send you a file, well, caveat emptor.
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IRC

[linuxonceleron]

OMG, you're gonna /. the Internet Retard Collector!

In all seriousness, this is pretty cool that he's going to be there to chat. How quick is GameBoy EMU on the 16mhz DragonBall chip though? I had run one on an old Philps Velo 1 (36Mhz MIPS) and it was almost as fast as a real GB in 1/2size mode, then again it could have just been WinCE.

#Palm logs

[panic911]

I have posted the logs here... http://www.digitalpropulsion.org/palm.txt they will be updated every few minutes until the interview is over (not real-time update)