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Making The Macintosh 1.0

beekman1 writes: "Stanford has up their first edition of Making the Macintosh. Where many articles deal with the political aspects of this period (Steve Jobs taking over, etc.) this one has the technical details like the evolution of the mouse from lab testing to production device. Link aquired from ArsTechnica"

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  1. Re:This isn't news :-) by UncleRoger · · Score: 4
    Slashdot, history for nerds. Things that used to matter.

    Cute. Actually, very funny. But seriously, let me tell you a little story. Back about 6 or 7 years ago, I had a client that sold a minicomputer-based software package, and was developing a microcomputer- based package to complement it. I was working on the larger system at the time. One day, I was working away, when I happened to notice a conversation going on over on the microweenie side of the office. The programmers were talking about a problem they had encountered in testing wherein if one person read a record, then another person read the same record, changed it and wrote it back to the database, and then the first person made their changes and wrote their version of the record out, the second person's changes would be lost. They seemed to think that this was something new and unusual, and needed some kind of new solution to overcome it. I called it record locking, and took it for granted.

    Here's a quote I was going to use in submitting a story about the Vintage Computer Festival (until someone beat me to it):

    "Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana (born 1863; died 1952)

    The point is, you need to know your past, or you will needlessly make the same mistakes your predecessors made.

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  2. Re:Mouse Balls by Datafage · · Score: 2
    Um, dude, that's a 5 pack, or about 55$ per. Quite reasonable.

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  3. Re:Credit for a link?!?! by StarFace · · Score: 2
    Great! Here is a glimpse into the future

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  4. Re:the imac in 1981? by LennyDotCom · · Score: 2

    Communications Network Impact ...
    back 20 years ago the impact on the phone companys equipment
    would have been a major concern they didn't have the infrastructure
    to handle millions of computers tieing up the phone circuits

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  5. Re:the imac in 1981? by Detritus · · Score: 2

    AppleTalk was pretty cool for its time. I saw people networking Macs and laser printers with AppleTalk long before Ethernet became common on PCs. Even with Ethernet, the PCs are still using proprietary protocols for printing and file sharing.

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  6. Re:I don't think the mouse is good by jw3 · · Score: 2
    I agree that mouse can be very distracting. I never use it to access menu items, window menus, changing between windows and the like, and rarely to cut and paste text I am editing (using vi instead). But even cursor keys can be distractive -- that is one of the reasons I am using vi: using hjkl is very convenient. But a pointer device is still sometimes necessary -- and Idon't mean gamers and graphic designers here. Recently I have boutht my first notebook, a very old Toshiba, with a, erm, how one could call this pointer device, I don't know. I call it a clitoris. Sorry. It is this little thing between the keys b,h and g, and it is really, really comfortable to use. Better then touchpad/ ball / anything else I have used over the years. You dont have to move your hands at all away from the keyboard. And I would like to have a keyboard for the workstation with a device like that.

    Best regards,

    January

  7. Re:the imac in 1981? by MrBogus · · Score: 3

    The early Apple designers were aware of the wide area systems that were in place, such as the ARPANet, the question was how to develop applications on top of it. They even had the concept of POPs and ISPs down (calling them "A Nodes").

    Where the disconnect happened was later on, when Apple's managers chose to build a proprietary network system and actively discourage connections to other systems. Wired 5.11 had a big expose of how Apple basically told corporate MIS to go to hell when people were requesting hetrogenius networking for the Mac:

    Just as he had dismissed the importance of licensing, Gassée never saw the need for Apple's computers to communicate with anything except other Apple computers. ... This was a terrible strategy, of course, because it did not seamlessly link Macintoshes with IBM-compatibles. "We looked at Gassée and said, 'Who is this guy?'"
    ...
    Jean-Louis Gassée had won nearly every fight. He was the undisputed master of engineering, the person who had almost always gotten his way. Now he would put another indelible stamp on Apple, one that would have repercussions as grave as the decision not to license.

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  8. Thats some fine copy and pasting there boy! by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2

    It also doesn't help that ArsTechnica is the most pretentious name on the net. Its just weblog-type name dropping, instead of giving credit to the authors (heaven forbid we list their names in the main page) who created these articles its a lot easier to thank some loser at Ars who can copy and paste links.

  9. Re:Useful error messages! by Chris+Johnson · · Score: 2
    Yeah- they are funny :)

    Here are lots of links to the error messages.

  10. Re:Mouse Balls by tooth · · Score: 3
    Check out the pics of these advertisments for meeces

    ...the mouse's name (the scientific-sounding X063X), and a $400 price tag

    Wow, $400 for a clunky looking box-mouse thing! How far we've come in 25 years! I mean now I've got a sexy looking curvy-with-scroll-wheel-and-red-light-mouse thing. It enhances my computer experience so much.

    Oh, and the of course the marketing has improved.

  11. What The Site Fails To Mention.... by Bill+Daras · · Score: 5

    (Normally I am quite critical of Apple, the Mac and Steve Jobs himself. This is one situation where I feel I need to make an exception....)

    Steve Jobs may have a reputation as a control freak, but even he didn't always get his way , especially when it came to the Mac.

    Many of us know about his demand for 3 mouse buttons, but few know about his instistance that the first Mac be priced at $1,299. For what they were selling at the time, it would have truly been a computer for the rest of us, and would have lived up to all the hype.

    However Scully decided he wanted to make a lot of money. His idea was "forget about things like userbase, and pay attention to stock prices!"

    The introductory price of $2,499 was an insult to everything the Mac was supposed to be about.

    Jobs complained to Scully, who along with Jean Louis Gasse (yep, THAT one) raved about how wonderful it would be when Apple was charging $10,000 for Macs . Which they did.

    It only went downhill from there.....

    The marketshare rose slowly, then fell dramatically. Gasse fought licensing of the Mac for years, then bitched endlessly when Apple refused to give Be their specs.

    Then, 2 years ago, Jobs finally got his chance to ship a $1,299 All-In-One Mac. Finally laying to rest the demons from when he first started to lose control.....

  12. the imac in 1981? by LennyDotCom · · Score: 2

    IT Sseems from this paper
    http://library.stanford.edu/mac/primary/docs/cbm .html
    by Jef Raskin had a major influence on Steve Jobs. It seems
    to describe the iMac and abvioulsy the early macs. Or maybe
    he was influinced my Steve?

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    1. Re:the imac in 1981? by Money__ · · Score: 3
      I read the same thing, and I have to agree that apple saw the value and scalability of simplicity early in the development cycle. What amazes me is how clueless they were on Wide Area Networking at the time.

      Consider this:
      Communications Network Impact ...
      " A real-time conversation involves two (or more) people with terminals carrying on an exchange. Such a conversation could easily last for hours. Or two computers could be co-operating on a problem, with the same duration of contact. Such usage could, in the face of a million users, tie up large portions of phone company equipment all out of proportion to the numbers using the system. "

      Wouldn't it have been amazing if apple was at the leading edge of networking in the 1980s and included BITNET with their little mac instead of pouring all those resources into their own networking thing? Imagine where we'de be today with the world "discovering" the net 15 years earlier?

    2. Re:the imac in 1981? by tooth · · Score: 3
      I love the last line of this document:

      The main question is this: what will millions of people do with them?

      What a silly question... look at pr0n, steal songs from the RIAA, and download code to rip DVD's of course! Oh, and read /. too :)

  13. Mouse Balls by grahamkg · · Score: 2

    Follow the links to the design of the mouse. It's probably as good a story on creativity as any. Having ideas is cool; bringing them to fruition is cool work.

    Graham

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  14. Re:Useful error messages! by StorminNorman · · Score: 3

    actually, if you ever use the mac, you'll know that it has heaps of useful error messages.

    "Sorry, A system error occured." is the one that appears in a modal dialog with a bomb. No other Macintosh error messages do this. (IIRC, the bomb is actually in ROM on older systems).

    The sad mac is useful: it tells of a ROM failure, and there is a technote (don't know the number) that explains exactly what all the sad mac error messages mean. Most of them are to do with hardware faliures, and are usually accompanied by the 'chimes of doom' (basically a short sample played instead of the chord, older Macs had a slice of Beethoven, my Centris plays a drum solo and G1 and G2 powermacs have the sound of a car crashing!).

    The best error messages come from an old version of MPW, and includes this classic: 'call me paranoid, but seeing /* inside a comment makes me nervous.'


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  15. Re:Computer History by UncleRoger · · Score: 2
    The history of computers is an interesting topic isn't there a project cataloging all the different parts of computer history going on?

    There most certainly is! Perhaps you missed the story on the Vintage Computer Festival the other day? There are a lot of people involved in preserving the quickly disappearing history of the computer industry, including myself. Check out some of the others, such as:

    or, for a more international view, try:

    For tons more, check out the links page at the Vintage Computer Festival, or better yet, come to the VCF at the end of September and experience history in person!

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  16. Re:I don't think the mouse is good by Dr.+Sp0ng · · Score: 2

    I really don't see why you like those damn things (personally, I can't stand them) but they do make normal keyboards with those built in. I saw one at Best Buy last week.
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  17. Its about time! by supernaut · · Score: 2

    Finally, a fairly unbiased historical piece, that actually helps undo some of the damage "Pirates of Silicon Valley" did to the story.

    Anyone who knows anything about Apple culture, knows Steve Jobs is a chameleon. He takes the best of whats around him, and blends. Unfortunately, at times, he is insane, but, you cant have everything. And, its especially nice to see Raskin get his long overdue props.

    Woz was brilliant, Jobs had his place too, but, the Raskin was right, Jobs would have you believe that it was him who brainstormed up Macintosh after the Xerox visit. When, in actuality Macintosh was a project started YEARS before Xerox ever appeared on the Apple map.

    Its also good to see the actual Lisa story set straight once and for all, as Lisa was really just a bloated and ill concieved mac model. Thats right folks, The Mac was *not* a stripped down Lisa. The Lisa was an overpriced and overblown Mac. In fact, the Mac development group was raided to build the Lisa in the first place.

    In any event, it just goes to show, you cant believe everything you see on TV. And, when you actually use your head and read, alot more truth can be had, as opposed to waiting for the next soundbyte.

    Hopefully, they will get more interviews up soon, im very interested in seeing some more of the mindsets in relation to the Mac development.

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  18. Computer History by jjr · · Score: 2

    The history of computers is an interesting topic isn't there a project cataloging all the different parts of computer history going on?