Kuro5hin Update

bob|hm was one of the group of people who wrote to us with an update from Kuro5hin. The donated server from VA has been packaged and sent out - now it's a matter of hooking it back up and "kicking the tires."

Comments

Re:VA Buys Another One

[chrisd]

Yep, we donated a server to Jamie. He's been a good friend to us personally and to the company in general.

Now, I don't speak for rob or any of the /. people, but I think that the reason this story is being posted is not about VA so much as it is about /. having the class to tell people about the status of kuro5hin. If you look on the site, rusty all but asks for a post.

The way I see it, anyone familiar with k5 knows we helped them out, and those that aren't wouldn't read the story much anyhow, so I don't see this as corporate shillism.

As far as your worries about the sites we actually run, only time will tell. In the past we've been good (unless you talk to a few people, that is :-) and we're not looking to change. Of course time will show our intentions better than any post on /.

Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
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Grant Chair, Linux Int.
Pres, SVLUG

Re:More conspiracies

[kuro5hin]

Oh, sure. Typical of the so-called "Open Source" community, that as soon as someone tries to make a living from their hard work, someone else has to come along and yell "sell out"! Y'know, it's people like you and that commie RMS that are going to put a lot of hard-working programmers out on the street, not to mention all those poor struggling rock stars that you are no doubt stealing music from. Sure, if I'm a sellout, than I suppose that Lars Ulrich and the other artists from the musical group Metallica are also sell-outs, just because they don't want you to steal their hard-earned labor? Well fine then.

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Re:More conspiracies

[kuro5hin]

Well, it seems pretty obvious to me, VA Linux/Andover will buy Kuro5hin.

Ah-hem.

"Show me the money!" :-)

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Trafic increase

[Alternity]

Funny but I bet the problems that kuro5hin had will bring them even more traffic then they had before. I mean, I never once went to that site before but now that I saw so much things about it here I can't wait it to be back to see what it looks like and how cool it is. I bet I'm not the only one...

Thank God

[Foogle]

K5 was a serious improvement over Slashdot. At least Rusty knew how to spell.

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"You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."

Re:More conspiracies

[Inoshiro]

And I suppose classical music is crap because it was written by poor ol' Bach, Bethoven, and the other great support-contract musicians of the middle-ages rather than after they signed rights to some big record giant?

You used to get it, man! Then k5 went down, and you got a job. And that haircut (it's so evil). And you stopped smoking pot and doing the heroin. You've changed, man!

I don't even know who you are anymore. I'm porting Scoop to PHP. You're dead to me now.
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Re:Another one bites the du5t.

[Inoshiro]

Maybe I'm not the one to speak for Kuro5hin, being second in command.

But.. what?!

VA Linux gave us a server. If we hadn't been given the server, we'd have had to frickin' wait for about 10 years before banner ads paid for something more powerful than our old PPro! There's no control there, just a donation.

Oh well.. your comment is a good laugh. Hopefully someone will properly rate it as funny :-)
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Re:More conspiracies

[Inoshiro]

Sell out!

(I still get 50%, right?)
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Well..

[Inoshiro]

You may be asking yourself, "why is this frontpage news?"

I think I'm to blame..

<rusty> maybe it was cause you practially begged for it ;-)
<rusty> "Heck,
<rusty> it'd be nifty if others
gave us coverage ;)"

I meant that it'd be nice if /. gave a holler when we were up for business (hopefully soon), not about some small update written in the wee hours in the morning :)
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Re:Correct Spelling is a waste of brain space...

[fprintf]

Mark Twain's plan for the improvement of English spelling:

For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.

Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.

Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

Why am I feeding this troll?

[Carnage4Life]

Until the day I die I will never understand people like you. You claim the story is unimportant and isn't news for nerds but probably spent at least 10 minutes of your time composing a post just to tell us this instead of ignoring the story. I'll leave you with two axioms my mom used to tell me If you have nothing good to say then don't say anything and It is better to keep silent and people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions.

Now about why kuro5hin is news for nerds. It is a much geek news site than slashdot which is easily witnessed by the fact that I have seen slashdot's own authers (e.g. micheal) post more on kuro5hin than I have on slashdot. Here are just a few of the reasons why kuro5hin is much preferrable to slashdot.

1. Everybody in the community has moderator access
2. all the time and thus everyone moderates posts so there is less chance of the moderator abuse that is now so frequent on slashdot. The score of a post then accurately reflects what the community as a whole feels about it.

1. Stories were voted on by members of the community before being placed on the front page, so
2. slanderous, unresearched, and flamebait articles never made it to the front page because they were voted down by the community.

1. Troll posts were deleted by the admins so there was no incentive for Penis Birds and other such spam to exist on kuro5hin.

1. The writeup on most articles was much higher in both quality and quantity primarily due to the fact that story authors realized that the stories would get voted down if they were not.

PS: That said, I read both sites several times a day and have nothing against slashdot but simply feel that kuro5hin was/is of superior quality.

Excellent

[flatpack]

I miss kuro5hin. Whilst I get a lot of the same at /. kuro5hin had a somewhat broader focus which gave rise to some incredibly interesting discussions on things like poverty, violence and the future of software. I think the open submissions idea allowed it to be less focussed on a particular them, like /. Still, both approaches have their merits and flaws, and I love both sites.

One thing that interests me is the new "rating" system that kuro5hin will be implementing, called mojo. Like moderation and karma on /. it is designed to allow good comments to be "pushed up" and spam and other crap to be hidden from view.

The difference is that mojo is based upon the ratings given on recent posts, with more recent posts counting for more than older ones. Since everyone on k5 can rate posts, this means that people consistently posting crap will end up with a low mojo and be unable to post or submit stories.

Hopefully this system will be able to cut down on the amount of noise that weblogs like /. and k5 seem to attract, and allow k5 to get back to what it was, a growing community with loyal readers.