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Intel's Roadmap For the Future
A SV reader writes "SharkyExtreme just posted the confidential Intel desktop roadmap for CPUs. Intel is really pushing AMD with a Tulatin at 1.26GHz. and a Pentium4 at 2GHz shipping Q3 of 2001.
Also -- Intel is not abandoning RDRAM but they are adding support of DDR memory. The bottom line is that Intel is developing SDR/DDR SDRAM chipsets for future Intel processors."
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...considering their past problems above 1 GHz. Maybe they should get their current chips working right in quantity first, m'kay? This is more vaporware from Chipzilla - don't believe it until you see it.
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Even if some of the details were supposed to be "highly confidential", the fact that Intel employees were giving information to what is essentially a content website erases that idea somewhat.
The information may be completely accurate or not, but it is the writer(s) at Sharkey Extreme who have put together the roadmap which we are reading, not Intel.
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It's a little embarrasing how easily we get passed by RISC-powered motorcycles, but we can always pedal our little CISC bicycles a little faster.
Sure, we get hotter and sweatier. Sure, we burn up even more energy. Yes, we know that 13% of all electricty used in the world is for powering computers (according to a recent U.N. summit). And we all know that most of the electricity is being generated through burning fossil fuels.
Maybe we like 80-day droughts in Texas thanks to global warming.
None of that matters, though. It's too much work to move to more efficient processor designs. Why scratch our heads over big-endian/little-endian translations when we can just slap on a bigger heat sink and cooling fan? Why give up our flying toaster screen savers?
Let's stick to our 1970's-architecture processors for now. It was good enough for our pocket calculators, it will be good enough for mapping the human genome. Maybe we'll even find a way to alter our DNA so our skin is UV-resistant and our bodies need less water.
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Now that were going to have some "AMD SMP lovin," even on the cheap Durons, Intel is really going to be feeling a pinch.
Especially since the new mobo's supporting this are going to be arriving soon.
I'm putting off the current upgrade until I can get one of these babies.
Intel, meanwhile, has removed SMP support from the Celerons. Oops, bad timing.
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...is it just me, or does Tulatin sound suspiciously much like Too-Late-in? Just a thought...
With the recent problems with 1Ghz supplies and the instability of the 1.13 Ghz how credible is that roadmap?
I mean, sure they might release those CPUs at those given time... but they also released 1Ghz about 8 months ago and I still have troubles finding one. I don't think AMD should be really worried by that.
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Make boards for several types and let us pick which ones work best. Maybe that would stick the proverbial fork in RDRAM.
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AMD promised a speed step upgrade of the Athlon every 6 weeks - it started with the 1.1GHz Athlon a few weeks ago - the 1.2GHz Athlon should be released by the beginning of October. 1.3GHz in November, and 1.4GHz at the beginning of the new year. The Athlon is the PIII competitor - they have roughly the same amount of zoom in them, both 0.18micron at the moment etc. The Pentium 4, when it is released, will be a hugely expensive processor, trying to compete with Alphas from Compaq and Power3/4 processors from IBM. It is not going to compete for the desktop, corporate or home for at least a year.
So AMD will be outgunning Intel for another 6 months, possibly 9 months in terms of GHz and overall performance (ignoring the Pentium 4, as it really should figure here, and even so, the overall performance of the Athlon 1.3GHz is likely to be more than the 1.5GHz Pentium 4!)
Still, good to see Intel going with DDR SDRAM at last, and the move to 0.13micron fabs is great - although 1 taiwanese fab is already there and making stuff. AMD are going 0.15micron, probably using Motorola technology there, as the G4's were 0.15 micron...
I assume that was a joke?
AMD will be at 1.2GHz THIS year, not Q3/2001!
You talk of intels vaporware but where are the SMP athlon chipsets? AMD claims the athlon can be used in dual or quad states but so far no one has made even a prototype. Intel isn't going anywhere in the high end server market until AMD comes up with a SMP design.
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PS. Note that I'm talking about desktop CPUs here (which is what the roadmap is about). Servers are an entirely different matter.
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In an unprecedented move today, Intel announced that they would be taking the processor battle to another level, changing there previous policy of one press release a month to one a week. They stated that they will be announcing the release of faster processors weekly, a move that clearly has competitors worried.
In related news, AMD quickly responded by announcing a new, faster processor press release will go out twice a week, a policy that could be revised as soon as December.
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I've noticed this for a long time. Intel is the enemy, regardless of what they do.
I forget the entire list of past transgressions, but I'm sure they included expensive, NDA-bound programmer's guides, the Pentium bug(s), weak real-mode/graphics support for Pentium Pro, the ID number fiasco, weak power management, lack of elegance, and lately I think its been for just not shipping 1+Ghz chips in large quantities.
But hey, it's Slashdot politics. If its not being managed by a global team of non-Americans for the betterment of Linux, there's something evil about it.
This is stupid. You post a link to some one else's story, and they clearly state that it isn't from intel. It is just what they think. "This information is not from Intel nor is it solid fact."
ArsTechnica has a pretty decent article:
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RISC vs. CISC: the Post-RISC Era
http://www.arstechnica.com/cpu/4q99/risc-cisc/r
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Do other chips from manufacturers outside the major two (AMD and Intel) currently make a chip that runs on an Athlon board?
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#1. This is not a confidential intel roadmap, nor is it even represented to be one. It stipulates all that on the first page.
#2. Even if it was direct from the horses mouth (or Intel's) it would not be meaningful except historically. Intel has been lately forced to rush their chips to match market forces where for years they were able to determine their pace of innovation on their own. As such we have watched them flounder.
#3. As to WHO needs 2ghz chips, who needs more than 640k ram? In 5 years we have to assume that applicaitons will be much more involved on some levels. The idea of wordprocessing might be dead by then, with dictation as the primary purpose. Multimedia interactive reports might be the norm, and pure text might be considered retro...
#4. Multiple Processors would be nice if we had truly modular computers. I would love to see a computer which you can just snap together from parts and increase in ram, processors, storage, and such without any limitation, and without turning off machines. Anyone wanna give me some money to create it?
As for the chipset, my 440BX is at about 90F. The DDR RAM chips on my GeForce 2 are usually about 110F. My P3 is about the same. I dare you to stick your finger on the 750 chipset and the CPU itself. Chances are, you can't even hold it on there for more than 300 milliseconds before getting scorched by the 180F heat.
As for the boards, at least mine wasn't built in a sweatshop. Speaking of foreign, I'm guessing that you are of either German or Russian nationality. Considering that AMD is funded by the German government, the very fact that you step right up to their defense solidifies my theory. "They are %100 percent compatible." Isn't that a little redundant?
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I checked the electromagnetic spectrum, and microwaves (specifically, the frequency used in the kitchen appliance) are 2.5 GHz. Is there anyone else worried that their CPU could become a magnetron?
"Ancillary does not mean you get to rule the world." --U.S. Circuit Judge Harry Edwards, speaking to the FCC's lawyer
It's because these sites lack something that the printed magazines possess: credibility. They're too afraid to put something in print, they might be wrong, or worse, the company might sue them. But think about it: why aren't reputable computer manufacturers using AMD CPUs? Dell, HP, Micron, they don't use anything AMD, not even their SCSI or network controllers. Their servers are Xeon, their workstations are P3. These companies would rather avoid trouble with AMD when the chip makers gets busted for consorting with the German government to take over the world. As far as AMD's deals are concerned, I believe that they are forming a secret faction with the German, Russian, and Chinese governments to build a fourth reich.
"Ancillary does not mean you get to rule the world." --U.S. Circuit Judge Harry Edwards, speaking to the FCC's lawyer