I think the point of the parent's post is that the APG would only pick one person to sue.
It's not about the money. It's about scaring file sharer's. And if they can get one case to stick, make an example out of hir, then the next batch of letters they'll send out will probably be more than 150, and the return %% of money for payment will probably be higher, AND people will start dropping from P2P.
So to repeat... Let's say all 150 don't pay. (Doubtful, but for this example) The APG isn't going to go "aw shucks" we didn't get any money. They're going to pick the best case they have and sue them.
So if one day you forgot to lock your bachelor pad before going to work at Pizza Hut, some guys walk right in and steal all your appliances. They then proceed to go to their fence and sell your stuff.
They get caught in the act of selling. So you're saying that you should go to jail for fencing your stuff.
I'm confused. It says that they were targeted for downloading a file. But then later in the article, it says that they were charged according to the files they shared.
How are the 2 related?
Not only that, but I thought that obtaining files was fine, but distributing them was not fine.
Otherwise, if I was these kids, I would go buy every single movie and album that they ever downloaded ASAP. Can't get in trouble downloading something you already have, right?
That's right, we don't really know. I guess it's time to go to court and then figure out the laws then.
This is of course, how Microsoft takes over a marketplace. They are eternally funded, and can oulast anyone.
They'll chip away at Sony and Nintendo's profits until even these successful companies can't make a profit.
I wonder why they're trying to pull out of the DVR market. They say that there's no money in it. Maybe. I thinks that maybe it conflicts with their DRM agenda.
Re:What happened to our 100 gig CDROMS?
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Yes, you can press DVD's on both sides, with 2 layers on each side. You have to do this professionally though, and it's a "press" not a "burn".
But when it comes to burning a DVD (with a DVD-burner that you can buy) , you can only burn one layer.
Don't get me wrong, we might have to poke a hole for every byte in these things for all I know.
But when DVD-R hit the consumer marketspace at 2.4X it was the same speed as CD-R 20X (3 MB/sec)
Heh, you're right about a number game though, even at 3MB/sec that's 8 hours to burn an 87GB disc.
Re:When will consumers see this technology?
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Well, the 10-slot drive is out of the question. I would rather mirror 120GB hard drives to hold everything with money left over. (This is by the way, a personal hobby--not business needs)
I'm not an expert of tape drives, but everything I've looked up is also costly. Mostly in the fact that anything that holds a decent amount of data, is a lot of $$$ per tape.
I checked out DABS but they didn't show pictures or descriptions of any of their products. I couldn't find the source you were looking at. However, I took a guess, and found one in that price range. The 50GB tapes were GBP 46 each. This comes to GBP 644. That comes to $1,016.00 !!!
Yikes. CD-R storage is only $7.14 per 50GB. (GBP 4.50)
I hope you weren't thinking of normal hard drive IDE speeds, which can easily sustain 40 MB/s.
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I hear ya. I have exactly half of the data you have, and having 20 spindles of 50-paks laying around isn't that hot.
Buying hard drives to hold it all isn't feasible, since it's a huge investment, and sizes keep going up and prices go down. (Not to mention you'd still want backups of that on....cdr!?)
And DVD-R will only help by 7X.
If blue-laser discs were out right now at the pace DVDR is, then that would be be a different story. That would be the perfect size to convert to right now to make it worth it.
According to statistics you may be spending your money on other marketshares in the Entertainment Sector. Have you bought DVD's or Computer Games since 1995? I know I have.
The Music Industry doesn't have a god given right to profit. And even though they have a crippling monopoly in their industry, they have new competition in Entertainment.
I think being a huge Asimov fan is always a good thing. Keep up the good work, chap!
This is exactly what Aimster did.
But they got shut down anyway. Can't remember the exact reason, but take your pick!
I think the point of the parent's post is that the APG would only pick one person to sue.
It's not about the money. It's about scaring file sharer's. And if they can get one case to stick, make an example out of hir, then the next batch of letters they'll send out will probably be more than 150, and the return %% of money for payment will probably be higher, AND people will start dropping from P2P.
So to repeat... Let's say all 150 don't pay. (Doubtful, but for this example) The APG isn't going to go "aw shucks" we didn't get any money. They're going to pick the best case they have and sue them.
So if one day you forgot to lock your bachelor pad before going to work at Pizza Hut, some guys walk right in and steal all your appliances. They then proceed to go to their fence and sell your stuff.
They get caught in the act of selling. So you're saying that you should go to jail for fencing your stuff.
Kind of reminds me of when Franco Begsbie from Trainspotting robbed the jewelry store with a rubber gun and just got costume jewelry...
good times.
I'm confused. It says that they were targeted for downloading a file. But then later in the article, it says that they were charged according to the files they shared.
How are the 2 related?
Not only that, but I thought that obtaining files was fine, but distributing them was not fine.
Otherwise, if I was these kids, I would go buy every single movie and album that they ever downloaded ASAP. Can't get in trouble downloading something you already have, right?
That's right, we don't really know. I guess it's time to go to court and then figure out the laws then.
The failing USPS is an argument AGAINST your statement, not one for it.
Yea, but Microsoft says "Where do you want to go today?"
I think he was just happy that he was finally able to finish the complete transaction so that he could write his review for /.
I'm sure any sane person would have taken the refund. Or not started at all.
Really, every word sounded like the only goal was to get from start to finish, just to write about it.
Yea, but what if I want to run Linux on my XBOX?
I would be happy to do ALL my power-using downloading at off-peak times.
If they want to cap GB/month then I'd like to see off-peak times be free. Something like the cell phone companies were doing.
Exactly how is $75 a month good?
How is 56k/second good?
I don't see your point. Unless that's kB, instead of kb.
Yea, I'm waiting for them to go into fast food. Give McDonald's a run for their money.
Just think, a free 2-day Serial Key to MS-Office with every BillyBurger sold!
This is of course, how Microsoft takes over a marketplace. They are eternally funded, and can oulast anyone.
They'll chip away at Sony and Nintendo's profits until even these successful companies can't make a profit.
I wonder why they're trying to pull out of the DVR market. They say that there's no money in it. Maybe. I thinks that maybe it conflicts with their DRM agenda.
Yes, you can press DVD's on both sides, with 2 layers on each side. You have to do this professionally though, and it's a "press" not a "burn".
But when it comes to burning a DVD (with a DVD-burner that you can buy) , you can only burn one layer.
That's why you only get 4.7 GB on one side.
Don't get me wrong, we might have to poke a hole for every byte in these things for all I know.
But when DVD-R hit the consumer marketspace at 2.4X it was the same speed as CD-R 20X (3 MB/sec)
Heh, you're right about a number game though, even at 3MB/sec that's 8 hours to burn an 87GB disc.
Well, the 10-slot drive is out of the question. I would rather mirror 120GB hard drives to hold everything with money left over. (This is by the way, a personal hobby--not business needs)
I'm not an expert of tape drives, but everything I've looked up is also costly. Mostly in the fact that anything that holds a decent amount of data, is a lot of $$$ per tape.
I checked out DABS but they didn't show pictures or descriptions of any of their products. I couldn't find the source you were looking at. However, I took a guess, and found one in that price range. The 50GB tapes were GBP 46 each. This comes to GBP 644. That comes to $1,016.00 !!!
Yikes.
CD-R storage is only $7.14 per 50GB.
(GBP 4.50)
Hey, I'm looking forward to the wide screen tv's becoming the norm. Why not watch movies the way they were originall made?
Where did you pull 0.5 MB/s ??
Even my 8X cd burner is 1.2 MB/s
I hope you weren't thinking of normal hard drive IDE speeds, which can easily sustain 40 MB/s.
I hear ya. I have exactly half of the data you have, and having 20 spindles of 50-paks laying around isn't that hot.
Buying hard drives to hold it all isn't feasible, since it's a huge investment, and sizes keep going up and prices go down. (Not to mention you'd still want backups of that on....cdr!?)
And DVD-R will only help by 7X.
If blue-laser discs were out right now at the pace DVDR is, then that would be be a different story. That would be the perfect size to convert to right now to make it worth it.
hahahaha!
Yea, we should replace our million dollar printing presses because someone developed some software to work with monitors.
I feel sorry for the guy who invented it getting only $165 as a bonus.
No kidding, I burn Games and movies to CDR just as much as music to CDR. They need to knock it down to 33% or something...
Ok, now that was funny!
According to statistics you may be spending your money on other marketshares in the Entertainment Sector. Have you bought DVD's or Computer Games since 1995? I know I have.
The Music Industry doesn't have a god given right to profit. And even though they have a crippling monopoly in their industry, they have new competition in Entertainment.