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CmdrTaco
on from the snag-the-isos-while-they're-hot dept.
weeble writes "Red Hat 7 is now out. The updates to the Red Hat web site have been made; however the ftp site has not yet been updated." Remember to use mirrors folks. Its gonna be a bit before they all catch up so be patient.
I'm very pleased that they've changed the default window manager (when running GNOME, anyway) from Enlightenment to Sawfish. I think that a lot of people who thought they hated GNOME, actually just hated Enlightenment.
Sawfish is nice and lean, it makes the GNOME experience snappy and responsive. Thankfully, with Rasterman now off the payroll, Red Hat was able to make this switch, and I think it makes their product that much better. --
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We're using a new glibc (2.2), a new and binary incompatible libstdc++ (gcc 2.96; some ABI changes were required to support more C++ features) as well as a new package format (rpm v4).
If you want to use rawhide packages on older versions of Red Hat Linux or other distributions using rpm, get rpm 3.0.5 or higher (3.0.5 is the first 3.x version that supports rpm v4 packages), get the source rpm and use rpm --rebuild.
That should work in most cases.
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The European version contains some additional CDs.
Since net access is still very expensive in many countries in Europe, we decided we should include more packages (that can be simply downloaded in the rest of the world) in Europe.
The additions (including, of course, Parsec) will be available on ftp.redhat.de (unless licenses don't permit it) - parts of them, such as our new, credit card sized Rescue CD, are available already.
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As we all know, Red Hat ties the name of one version to the next. Fitting "Guinness" is a little difficult.
Version - Name - Tie-together
3.0.3 - Picasso
3.0.4 - Rembrandt - Painters
4.0 - Colgate - Toothpastes
4.1 - Vanderbilt - Universities
4.2 - Biltmore - The Vanderbilts lived in Biltmore Estate
4.8 - Thunderbird - Hotels near the San Jose airport
4.9 - Mustang - Ford automobiles
5.0 - Hurricane - WWII fighters
5.1 - Manhattan - Mixed drinks
5.2 - Apollo - Theaters
5.9 - Starbuck - Battlestar Galactica characters
6.0 - Hedwig - Starbuck MN & St Hedwig TX are small towns
beta - Lorax - Hedwig Godiva & the Lorax are Dr Seuss characters
6.1 - Cartmann - MS Word macro-viruses (or cartoon characters)
beta - Piglet - Cartoon characters
6.2 - Zoot - Dr Piglet & Sir Zoot are occupants of Castle Anthrax
beta - Pinstripe - Types of suits
Linux Planet had an article in which they claimed the version after "Pinstripe" would be called "Winston".
At first, I had difficulty finding a tie-together between "Pinstripe" and "Guinness", but with "Winston" as an in-between, we have the Winston Fabrics which has a pinstripe product, and Winston's Restaurant in Colorado which serves Guinness, or Winston Agaba, who is a brand manager for Guinness, or Winston Churchill and Alec Guinness were both knighted.
Upon further examination, however, I discovered there is a red ale called "SKA Pinstripe", which seems to be a much cleaner tie-together with Guinness.
I'm still wondering about that "Winston" that Linux Planet mentioned.
Christopher A. Bohn
-- cb
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A nonexistent compiler... excellent.
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a new and binary incompatible libstdc++ (gcc 2.96; some ABI changes were required to support more C++ features)
That's odd. I've been a minor (very minor, mind you) GCC contributor for a while, and I could have sworn that 2.96 doesn't actually exist.
In fact, I believe that "2.96" is the name given to the current series of snapshots, which are known to be incomplete and not fully working and missing documentation, because if you're using a snapshot, it is assumed that you don't need all the documentation, you know what's working and what isn't, etc, etc.
Why did RH choose to use an unstable compiler as the default for a major distro? I can't wait to see all the crap on the gcc-bugs mailing list, from people using an incomplete compiler.
-- You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
Red Hat Linux 7.0 is far more uptodate than Slackware 7, Mandrake 7.1 etc - our version number is there to say what is and what isn't binary compatible. Some of the others just play the number game (Mandrake, Slackware), SuSE seems to have their own versioning instead of just upping their number(I'm not sure what it is yet...) and Debian also has their own versioning.
new 2.2ish glibc
new gcc compiler, with performance enhancements
openssl, openssh
Integrated with the Red Hat Network. The base service is free.
optimized for PentiumPro or higher, while maintaining backwards compatibility
XFree 4, with accelerated 3D support for some cards. Many XFree 3.x servers used for stability reasons, but they also work with GLX.
RPM 4
USB support for mice and keyboard (the rest is included as is)
Gnome 1.2 (seems to have less bugs than helix)
preview of KDE 2 and 2.4 kernel
FHS layout
QT 2.2
And probably more features I'm just taking for granted now...
We're setting up a test drive of RedHat 7.0 in the Compaq Test Drive program today. It should be available this afternoon - we'll post an announcement on our main page when it is. Once it's ready, you'll be able to get a free shell account on it by going to our web site and registering. You'll be able to explore what the new release is like and try compiling your code against it without having to download and install it on your own system.
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I'm very pleased that they've changed the default window manager (when running GNOME, anyway) from Enlightenment to Sawfish. I think that a lot of people who thought they hated GNOME, actually just hated Enlightenment.
Sawfish is nice and lean, it makes the GNOME experience snappy and responsive. Thankfully, with Rasterman now off the payroll, Red Hat was able to make this switch, and I think it makes their product that much better.
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Tired of FB/Google censorship? Visit UNCENSORED!
We're using a new glibc (2.2), a new and binary incompatible libstdc++ (gcc 2.96; some ABI changes were required to support more C++ features) as well as a new package format (rpm v4).
If you want to use rawhide packages on older versions of Red Hat Linux or other distributions using rpm, get rpm 3.0.5 or higher (3.0.5 is the first 3.x version that supports rpm v4 packages), get the source rpm and use rpm --rebuild.
That should work in most cases.
This message is provided under the terms outlined at http://www.bero.org/terms.html
The European version contains some additional CDs.
Since net access is still very expensive in many countries in Europe, we decided we should include more packages (that can be simply downloaded in the rest of the world) in Europe.
The additions (including, of course, Parsec) will be available on ftp.redhat.de (unless licenses don't permit it) - parts of them, such as our new, credit card sized Rescue CD, are available already.
This message is provided under the terms outlined at http://www.bero.org/terms.html
As we all know, Red Hat ties the name of one version to the next. Fitting "Guinness" is a little difficult.
Version - Name - Tie-together3.0.3 - Picasso
3.0.4 - Rembrandt - Painters
4.0 - Colgate - Toothpastes
4.1 - Vanderbilt - Universities
4.2 - Biltmore - The Vanderbilts lived in Biltmore Estate
4.8 - Thunderbird - Hotels near the San Jose airport
4.9 - Mustang - Ford automobiles
5.0 - Hurricane - WWII fighters
5.1 - Manhattan - Mixed drinks
5.2 - Apollo - Theaters
5.9 - Starbuck - Battlestar Galactica characters
6.0 - Hedwig - Starbuck MN & St Hedwig TX are small towns
beta - Lorax - Hedwig Godiva & the Lorax are Dr Seuss characters
6.1 - Cartmann - MS Word macro-viruses (or cartoon characters)
beta - Piglet - Cartoon characters
6.2 - Zoot - Dr Piglet & Sir Zoot are occupants of Castle Anthrax
beta - Pinstripe - Types of suits
Linux Planet had an article in which they claimed the version after "Pinstripe" would be called "Winston".
At first, I had difficulty finding a tie-together between "Pinstripe" and "Guinness", but with "Winston" as an in-between, we have the Winston Fabrics which has a pinstripe product, and Winston's Restaurant in Colorado which serves Guinness, or Winston Agaba, who is a brand manager for Guinness, or Winston Churchill and Alec Guinness were both knighted.
Upon further examination, however, I discovered there is a red ale called "SKA Pinstripe", which seems to be a much cleaner tie-together with Guinness.
I'm still wondering about that "Winston" that Linux Planet mentioned.
Christopher A. Bohn
cb
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a new and binary incompatible libstdc++ (gcc 2.96; some ABI changes were required to support more C++ features)
That's odd. I've been a minor (very minor, mind you) GCC contributor for a while, and I could have sworn that 2.96 doesn't actually exist.
In fact, I believe that "2.96" is the name given to the current series of snapshots, which are known to be incomplete and not fully working and missing documentation, because if you're using a snapshot, it is assumed that you don't need all the documentation, you know what's working and what isn't, etc, etc.
Why did RH choose to use an unstable compiler as the default for a major distro? I can't wait to see all the crap on the gcc-bugs mailing list, from people using an incomplete compiler.
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
Red Hat Linux 7.0 is far more uptodate than Slackware 7, Mandrake 7.1 etc - our version number is there to say what is and what isn't binary compatible. Some of the others just play the number game (Mandrake, Slackware), SuSE seems to have their own versioning instead of just upping their number(I'm not sure what it is yet...) and Debian also has their own versioning.
And probably more features I'm just taking for granted now...
We're setting up a test drive of RedHat 7.0 in the Compaq Test Drive program today. It should be available this afternoon - we'll post an announcement on our main page when it is. Once it's ready, you'll be able to get a free shell account on it by going to our web site and registering. You'll be able to explore what the new release is like and try compiling your code against it without having to download and install it on your own system.