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OS X As "This Generation's Sgt. Pepper"

grossdog writes: "Feed Magazine has an article up by editor-in-chief Steven Johnson (author of Interface Culture) describing the OS X rollout as a cultural event -- the now manifestation of the same impulses that turned Sgt. Pepper and Exile on Main Street into touchstones. 'Seeing a brand new interface,' writes Johnson, 'is a little like seeing the new Audi TT, or the latest Alessi home appliance: You know you're going to be seeing these shapes and colors emulated for years to come.' In this sense OS X is an important milestone in OS development: Apple has set a new standard." This is a good piece. It talks about hype, media, and software. I don't think OSX is Sgt. Pepper. More like the Phantom Menace (technically amazing and very pretty, but will it have a plot, or just suck?).

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  1. Re:Anyone compared MacOS X to BeOS? by daviddennis · · Score: 5

    I've used both BeOS and MacOS X.

    Polish.

    The first thing you'll notice about MacOS X is how beautiful it is. The anti-aliased text looks drop-dead gorgeous on any high-resolution monitor. The photorealistic icons looks fantastic. The magnification effect in the dock is slick. Everything just looks magnificent; kudos to detail-meister Jobs.

    Be's buttons look strange, and there's something about the text that's not quite right compared to a MacOS or even Windows system.

    Usability.

    I'd probably give a slight edge to Be here. The tracker has both a list of running applications and a start menu like launcher. MacOS X relies on a combination of the Dock and applications directory for these things.

    At the same time, both are not hard to find your way around. I'd give the edge to Be, but in the end, an impartial user would have a hard time not to be seduced by the beauty of X.

    Web Browser Experience.

    Both browsers (IE and OmniWeb) available for X crash with a giddy abandon. OmniWeb is worse than Netscape under Linux; IE is probably comparable. I've lost lots of text typing in IE under MacOS X, though; there's a strange bug in the test widget that, let us say, does not inspire confidence.

    Be's web browser almost never crashes and runs more smoothly than either MacOS X offering. This would be a clear and dramatic win for Be if it weren't for its lack of JavaScript or CSS support. Nowadays, most pages have little bits of JavaScript in them, and NetPositive simply doesn't handle it. On the other hand, if you always leave JavaScript off in fear of tiresome security problems and such, NetPositive is the ideal browser for you.

    Opera exists for BeOS; I tried the beta and it was crashy and didn't work well. One of these days, I'll have to see if they have a release version out.

    Stability

    I've managed to crash both MacOS Beta (mainly by trying to run the OmniWeb browser's Beta 5 - moving to Beta 6 seems to have fixed the problem) and BeOS. But in normal use, both of them are roughly equivalent.

    Application Support.

    The clear winner has to be MacOS X. You can run Photoshop, Illustrator and other Mac applications; native web browsers that view contemporary web sites without sacrifice are available, albiet buggy.

    Conclusion

    It's hard to resist the sheer beauty of X. Once they get the bugs squashed, I think it will be a real ground-breaker of an OS.

    I like JLG personally - he responds to his emails and has been very nice - so it pains me to report that the legendary bad-tempered Jobs has won this comparison. But he has, fair and square.

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  2. Re:Computing's Sgt Pepper already exists by The+Insultant · · Score: 4
    Computing's Sgt Pepper already exists, and like it or not, it is Windows. Windows has been the dominant OS and GUI during the last 5 years...

    The author's point wasn't that this OS will dominate the world. Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys dominate the "Top 40" music scene, but I doubt many /.ers would consider them to be the 'touchstone' of their musical preference. The author seems to be saying that this OS is (to some extent) unlike anything that came before it, and will (to some extent) influence what comes after it.

  3. OSX: Intersection of Art and Technology by Harv · · Score: 5
    I'm constantly amazed at how some people insist on taking their own biases/assumptions/bassackward notions/sheer ignorance-- or plain old laziness -- impose this warped world view on others in some sort of sarcastic rhetorical flourish, and then hammer the unfortunate target for sins he/they never committed.

    I believe Apple and OSX ought to be judged on what THEY claim they're trying to do, instead of being bashed for something this group THINKS they're doing.

    Same goes for Microsoft, or anyone else for that matter.

    Jobs doesn't make a secret of his core message about the company: "Apple is all about exploring the intersection of art and technology," he said at Macworld in New York. "It's in our DNA." Read that again. ..... Does it say anywhere that they're trying to build the fastest servers in the world, or hope to run spreadsheets better than anyone else? Hell, no. Someday they might do both, now that they're launching a new OS with some serious strengths, but that's not what their first priority is. "Exploring the intersection between art and technology" is what they care about most. For anyone who thinks that's stupid, stop reading now, because this is not the company for you. Fine. Good luck in your chosen work.

    For those of you are still reading, try thinking about what he said on it's own terms. It seems to be a consistent and honest statement of his beliefs. I'm assuming that normally intelligent people who need an enterprise server will pick Linux, all else being equal, as most people know that it's stupid to try to drive a nail with a wrench.

    Similarly, it seems patently unfair to judge Apple and OSX on claims the company never made. If, for instance, Apple rolled out OSX today and said: "We're going to take on NT and Linux in the enterprise server market with this baby," then it would be fair to take this claim apart on that basis. But they didn't say this, and won't.

    Maybe there are a lot of tech-oriented people who've never thought about how technology and design ought to be pulled together, but does that mean we shouldn't ever consider it? Their uncles were the same ones who ridiculed the GUI in the first place, 25 years ago. Then processor speed caught up, RAM got cheap, as did bigger hard drives, and the efficiency arguments didn't mean as much any more. Won't improvments in hardware keep trying to catch up to what software writers can think up? There's always this back and forth, with advances in one area forcing improvements in others.

    Another point is that Jobs has called OSX "the future of the Macintosh." Judge it on that basis, not on how much the old OS sucks, would you? This is the first rollout of a completely new (if you don't count the BSD layer) consumer operating system for a long time. How well has the rollout gone so far? What does the OS offer in the way of improvements over the old, and is that going to be enough? Did you read the careful review over at Ars Technica?

    If you don't care what happens over in Cupertino and with Macs, you are, of course, free to ignore the thread and move on.

    If OSX fails to live up to it's own promises, that may be sad for some of us, but in the grand scheme of things, that's tough luck, isn't it? Call it Digital Darwinism. Only the successful code survives.

  4. OS X? Nah... by slothbait · · Score: 5

    But the iMac certainly was a "cultural phenomenon". Now you can get translucent fruity routers and mice, and chairs. Heck, it's even spread to other devices, such as phones. What else in the computer world has been so imitated, even *outside* the computer world?

    Plus, for many people, the iMac actually became their first computer. These are largely people that were intimidated by computers before, but that saw the iMac as "friendly" enough, and thus it was their introduction to computing. No doubt the iMac will have a special place in those people's lives.

    The iMac will definitely go down as a cultural icon. In 30 years, directors will throw iMacs into movies to get people all sentimental about the past. Just watch and see...

    --Lenny

  5. Re:Landmark for some, wake up call for others by Ryano · · Score: 4

    "NextStep has provided a good graphical user interface on top of a Unix variant for 11 years now. Apple bought Next, freshened it up, and added Mac compatibilty and eye candy. I fail to see how that gives them all the credit for it."

    How can you deny them credit for this? Apple is really as much NeXT as it is Apple. It has the same CEO as NeXT, and the same person in charge of software, Avie Tevanian. As you can read in his bio, Tevanian was also a principal developer of Mach at Carnegie-Mellon.

    This is not the same as Microsoft buying some guys out of their garage because they had developed some widget Bill wanted to assimilate or bury (Apple do this too, of course). The acquisition of NeXT has totally transformed Apple, and not just because of Steve Jobs' return. Five out of Apple's eight-strong senior management team are ex-NeXT.

    Many of the people who brought you NeXTSTEP are developing it into OS X. Why should they be denied the credit? Also, if you think the developments are merely cosmetic, you should check out John Siracusa's articles on Ars Technica

    "Especially as they have broken some of the nice things in Next, like having both buttons on a scroll bar in the same place."

    That's a fair point - you can have this under the current MacOS, so I doubt it will be long before it is grafted back onto OS X, together with a bunch of other useful stuff from both MacOS and NeXTSTEP which is absent from the Public Beta.

  6. Landmark for some, wake up call for others by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 5

    After all the moaning about the Mac in Linux forums, it's ironic that Apple has managed to put a decent face on UNIX before anyone else. That's always been the sort point about UNIX on the desktop, and has been going back to the early days of X in the 1980s. But with all the yammering about the Open Source revolution and millions of eyes, many people expected one of the various attempts at a Linux desktop to make OS X look like a sad afterthought. It hasn't happened. KDE, et al, still look like poor attempts to clone interfaces that the authors never used. If OS X is the Sgt. Pepper for some users, then it's a wake-up call for a generation for others, as was the ill-fated Stones concert at Altamont Speedway.

    1. Re:Landmark for some, wake up call for others by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4
      Face it; Apple is primarily about user interfaces (and has been since 1983). Meanwhile, Linux has been primarily about other things (and has been since 1991).

      However, various Linuxers have taken a keen interest in user interfaces, and have made a great deal of progress in the last 2-3 years. They will catch up to OSX long before 17 years have gone by, and Linux will still be doing the other things well, too.

      > After all the moaning about the Mac in Linux forums, it's ironic that Apple has managed to put a decent face on UNIX before anyone else.

      That spins both ways:
      It's ironic that Unix has managed to put a decent operating system under the Apple UI before anyone else


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  7. Anyone compared MacOS X to BeOS? by MikeFM · · Score: 4

    Does anyone have any comments on how MacOS X compares to BeOS (one of the alternative OS's that tried for OS X's spot)? I have yet to try OS X but it sounds a lot like BeOS. IMO BeOS is a great OS but unless opensourced will never have a chance of becoming more than a niche player. OS X may be able to do more since it has Apple behind it but they are also a couple years behind BeOS in real-world despazzing. I'll stick to Linux probably. :)

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  8. OlympicSponsor: -1, Flamebait by Millennium · · Score: 5

    Gotta do this, gotta do that, conform to this standard, use that API, blah blah blah.

    And this is bad? The very fact that API's were actually standardized is why the Mac hardware works so well. The standards Apple set has allowed Apple to avoid the major headaches of Wintel-based hardware, while still allowing for a great deal of third-party freedom.

    Compare that to the idea of using a Free/Open operating system as a base and you've got a (potential) radical change.

    And not for the better. This is why there's no Plug and Play on the Wintel platform; because the various companies never got around to standardizing even the simplest of hardware operations (well, except maybe the BIOS and processor instruction set, and even the instruction set isn't fully standardized anymore with MMX and KNI and 3DNow! and God only knows how many others), you're trapped in Driver Hell, without which nothing works. Contrast this with Mac hardware, where you can get at least basic functionality out of almost any device without the drivers (printers notwithstanding, but that's for another rant), but you can get drivers for the more extended stuff.

    Getting at the guts of the OS is a Good Thing, and you can do this with OSX. But it's not worth sacrificing the functionality that comes with interoperable standards, such as the ones Apple set up (before you go into a rant, I mean interoperable across peripherals; they're certainly not interoperable across platforms but this is not Apple's fault). Otherwise, you get the mess that is the Wintel platform, where installing most new hardware puts you into Setup Hell for hours as you work to get everything harmonious again. It's all about balance; nothing is good when taken to extremes. Even freedom, when taken to extremes, degenerates into anarchy, which is what we see on the Wintel platform and is a large part of why it doesn't work as well.

    By the way, these standards do exist in Linux too, but the only ones that ever get followed are low-level ones (such as, say, glibc's and X's own API's, and to a lesser extent video4linux). This is unfortunate; even a set of human interface standards that actually got followed by everyone would help Linux's acceptance in the workplace. I love Linux too (use it quite often, actually), but it really needs work in this area. Not "standard implementations," just standard API's.
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