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Karl Auerbach Profiled In Salon

nomadic writes: " Salon has a really interesting interview with recent ICANN board member-elect Karl Auerbach regarding his view of what ICANN should and should not become. Basically, he thinks it should be almost totally restructured, and I can't say I disagree with him. And whether you agree with his views or not, I think a lot of people here should appreciate the fact that someone with serious geek credentials made it to the board."

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  1. one sour note by twitter · · Score: 2
    QA from interview:

    Where does your relationship with Cisco fit into this?

    I don't speak for Cisco and I never will. Cisco is not like the old companies where the president gives an order and everyone marches off wherever he says. We are more of the cats. And most of us are financially independent, so we don't have to follow orders anyway.

    Let's be honest, we have to trust this guy based on his record. This new company stuff smells bad. If he's got stocks in Cisco, he's got an interest. Financial independence never kept anyone from persuing their interests.

    It must have been a brain fart. Would he believe this about anyone else?

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  2. Re:Can't ICANN be subverted through technology? by Jerf · · Score: 2
    IP addresses and domain/host names are related through DNS, which is just a big, distributed index. What would it take to build an alternate index, accessed via a different protocol?

    A post on slashdot.

  3. Self absorption by Troodon · · Score: 3

    Should you yanks actually manage to pull your heads out of your collective rear ends you might notice that four other individuals where elected through this round of voting. ;)


    Asia/Australia/Pacific: Masanobu Katoh
    Europe: Andy Mueller-Maguhn
    Latin America and Caribbean: Ivan Moura Campos
    Africa: Nii Quaynor
    North America: Karl Auerbach

    I wouldnt exactly class master Mueller-Maguhn as regular, and how far are the views of the other three going to conicide with ICANN's core?

    Any bets so far for how long it'll take the board to freeze out any members with more 'extreme' views?

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  4. Real Value of KA's membership by SubtleNuance · · Score: 5

    From the article:
    right to inquire about and examine all the records, documents and procedures of a corporation. Very little is hidden from a director's eyes. This gives a director an enormous power to know what's going on in the corporation and to expose improper activity.

    That is the key - no longer will the goings on of ICAAN remain a secret. They're will be someone on the board who is not part of the club - interested in maintain a 'below the radar' regulatory body which does as it pleases. Remember that the EU elected the President of the German Chaos Computer Club - so KA is not absolutely alone. By KA repeating the doings and debates of the ICAAN to the Internet citizenry at large will shed a light on the motivations and machinations of ICAAN itself. Further exposing its true motivations. These slugs (ICAAN members) like to slip around in the dark and spread their filthy ooze all over in order to seize corporatist control of the Internet - wont it be funny when KA runs around with a flashlight, showing everyone what the little bastards are REALLY up to. I cant wait!

    So we all agree that Big Biz has corrupted the US democracy, and our system is failing. Want to fix it? Help rebuild a -real- democracy for citizens. Tell your friends/neighbours/coworkers to:

    1. Re:Real Value of KA's membership by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 2
      Having at least two radicals (Auerbach and Mueller-Maguhn) on the board is a Very Good Thing. It means that they'll be able to second each others' motions and get discussions going of things that other board members might not otherwise be happy to talk about. They may not get things passed, but at least it'll be discussed.

      It makes it that much harder for the corporate members to keep things under the table and off the radar.
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  5. Re:Call me an optimist, but... by 11223 · · Score: 2
    You're an optimist, but optimism won't work here. The only thing that will work will be a mass revolt against the current ICANN tyranny, because it's past the point of change right now. Once they start losing market share, then they'll start to give in.

    The thing is that the board won't accept anything right now that they wouldn't have accepted before. In a sense, his position is only a first step - not paving the way, but an expression of growing discontent.

  6. Re:Call me an optimist, but... by llywrch · · Score: 2

    > But,
    > just because it's impossible doesn't mean someone shouldn't try. Also, and
    > perhaps I'm being naive here, but I believe that when things don't work they
    > fall apart eventually.

    I agree.

    And I think we have to positively engage the problem here, not ignore it. If we allow this governing board to remain in a chokehold by corporate interests, we will end up with the equivalent of a third world petty dictatorship, instead of a flawed government like in Europe or North America, where we have some room to live our lives in privacy & security.

    Geoff

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  7. I think he refers to local caching by TrentC · · Score: 2

    "...The idea is -- and Akamai and other companies are doing this -- you move content, you spread it around so it's replicated, so when somebody asks for it, you intercept the domain-name query and you look at it and say: "Where is this user coming from? Where is the closest place he can get the content?" And your DNS [domain name system] answers, then points the user to the place that's closest. Therefore, we've got geographically sensitive domain names."

    This is already being tried in newspaper publishing and IMHO it doesn't work: I get an edition of the Seattle Times that's geographically edited to be relevant to my geographic location -- which means that there's some local news I *never* hear about, at least via the newspaper, which has become largely irrelevant anyway...


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    I *don't* think distributed content servers are relevant to any discussion of gTLD issues -- distributed content is a marketing hack.

    I think what he's talking about is hacking the domain-name system so that, instead of pointing to that one machine is Finland, directs to a locally-administered mirror of that one machine in Finland. Hence the reference to Akamai (which performs essentially this function, IIRC).

    Jay (=

  8. Just remember... by manichawk · · Score: 2

    ...that not all people with geek credentials think alike - eg the fractured nature of the various linux communities - so this board member-elect will still upset as many geeks as he pleases...

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  9. Call me an optimist, but... by YanceyAI · · Score: 2

    I think he knows what he's up agianst, hence the reference to Sisyphus. But, just because it's impossible doesn't mean someone shouldn't try. Also, and perhaps I'm being naive here, but I believe that when things don't work they fall apart eventually. ICANN doesn't work all that well. They may have to listen to him sooner or later. Or maybe he'll just pave the way for the next reformer.

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  10. I feel sorry for this guy by flatpack · · Score: 3

    The guy has some interesting ideas and an actual understanding of the issues involved here beyond what the rest of the ICANN board has, and it's good to see that there is at least one non-corporate on such an important body.

    But I have to say, I feel sorry for the guy.

    Why? He may have all of these "revolutionary" (from ICANN's point of view anyway) ideas about how to restructure ICANN and make domain names fairer, but he's one man alone on a board with eighteen corporate whores all perfectly happy with the current system. The entire At Large elections were little more than a sop to satisfy geeks who felt, quite rightly, that they no longer had any power online.

    Every decision he wants to make is going to be outvoted and quashed by the paid tools of corporate America. How do you think he's going to feel after a year of failure? Pretty bad would be my guess, and that's why I feel sorry for him.

    ICANN made sure that the At Large elections would fail to produce any threat to it's domination by corporations. Auerbach's position, whilst gained honestly, is little more than a sham. I feel sorry for him when he comes to realise that.

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    1. Re:I feel sorry for this guy by matthew.thompson · · Score: 2
      Every decision he wants to make is going to be outvoted and quashed by the paid tools of corporate America. How do you think he's going to feel after a year of failure? Pretty bad would be my guess, and that's why I feel sorry for him.

      Unfortunately this is exactly what I'd expect to happen as well. I signed up for the ICANN at large elections as soon as I heard about them (On /.), I sent all the emails and jumped through all the hoops to get my voting rights but I never received a single confirmation. I'm half expecting a voting card to arrive next week :o)

      Unfortunately ICANN will try and get their way - I just hope that Nominet and other regional registries can force ICANN into being more accountable - if not to the general users then at least to them.

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  11. Speaking of TLD by HiroProtagonist · · Score: 2

    Anyone heard of FOCI (Friends Of a Competitive Internet)?

    http://joinfoci.org/

    " We're mad because the current ICANN process to introduce new Top Level Domains (TLDs) into the Internet's Domain Name System (DNS) is in danger of being hijacked in a sham designed to extend Network Solutions, Inc. ( NSI ) and the other Afilias registrars' monopoly control over the most popular Internet real estate."

    Looks like Karl Auerbach already has something to work against at ICANN.

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  12. Can't ICANN be subverted through technology? by SecondSon · · Score: 2

    IP addresses and domain/host names are related through DNS, which is just a big, distributed index. What would it take to build an alternate index, accessed via a different protocol?

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  13. Just one thought about... by talks_to_birds · · Score: 2
    ...one part of the interview:

    "...The idea is -- and Akamai and other companies are doing this -- you move content, you spread it around so it's replicated, so when somebody asks for it, you intercept the domain-name query and you look at it and say: "Where is this user coming from? Where is the closest place he can get the content?" And your DNS [domain name system] answers, then points the user to the place that's closest. Therefore, we've got geographically sensitive domain names."

    This is already being tried in newspaper publishing and IMHO it doesn't work: I get an edition of the Seattle Times that's geographically edited to be relevant to my geographic location -- which means that there's some local news I *never* hear about, at least via the newspaper, which has become largely irrelevant anyway...

    I don't doubt for a minute that the concept of content replication across a wide geographic area, ostensibly to speed transmission to impatient users, will not be compromised and focused such that you get what some marketing droid *thinks* you're going to be interested in, simply based on where you're located.

    I *don't* think distributed content servers are relevant to any discussion of gTLD issues -- distributed content is a marketing hack.

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  14. I knew him when... by isdale · · Score: 2

    I met Karl wey back in '81 when I joined INTERactive Systems (first commerical vendor of UN*X). Karl knows his tech stuff and was a good person too. He has taken on a very tough roll for a radical reformer - working from the inside.

    As SubtleNuance says, a real value to Karl's membership will be having his eyes and ears inside. And as Troodon and SubtleNuance point out Karl will NOT be the lone free ranger on the board. I hope Karl, Andy and the other members-at-large can work to open the system. We should all give them our support.

    One big way to do this is to get your butt out and VOTE in the regular political elections (USA or elsewhere)! YOU can make a difference.