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NSI Accused of Cybersquatting

ckd writes "digitalMASS is reporting that NSI is being sued for cybersquatting by an Alabama resident who claims that they're holding on to expired names long past any reasonable time period (kam.com, listed as expiring in 1996, for example)."

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  1. OK, now am confused. by keepper · · Score: 4

    The article says kam.com has expired, fair enough. And is pionting to a redirect, ok.

    But, why is kam.com still resolving to an ip that is owned by a "KAM-CIRCUITS"



    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: www.kam.com
    Address: 194.200.169.2


    inetnum: 194.200.169.0 - 194.200.169.255
    netname: KAM-CIRCUITS
    descr: Kam Circuits Ltd
    country: GB
    admin-c: UPHM1-RIPE
    tech-c: UPHM1-RIPE
    status: ASSIGNED PA
    mnt-by: AS1849-MNT
    changed: ianm@pipex.net 19951031
    changed: stephenb@uk.uu.net 19990915
    source: RIPE


  2. ICANN should separate serving from registering. by BeBoxer · · Score: 5

    The problem with NSI is that they are serving two roles. They run the root DNS servers. This gives them a guaranteed flow of income no matter how much the customers hate them. Their second role is that of a registrar.

    Now, they seem to do a pretty good job of running the root name servers. The problem is that this position gives them an advantage over the other registrars. For one, they are guaranteed to have income. No matter how badly they screw up, or how much market share they lose, they will still have money rolling in because all of their competition has to pay them. In addition, as in this case, they can arbitrarily snap up domains without having to actually pay for them. Any other registrar that wanted to play this game would have to fork over cash to NSI to fund it.

    What I think ICANN should dictate is this. One or more companies will be given contracts to register domain names, similar to what is done now. A second group of one or more companies will be given contracts to run the root servers. People who register a domain will pay the first group. The first group will pay some fee to the second group for each domain they want served. The contracts for both groups will stipulate that they are not allowed to own, be owned by, partner with, or be the same as any company in the other group.

    The abuse that is happening with the current system is out of hand. NSI is acting like a greedy spoiled brat who is causing untold amounts of grief for thousands of hard working admins out there. Unfortunately, with the current system, they can and will keep doing it. In fact, I would expect their behavior to actually get worse as their market share declines. As they lose customers, past behavior indicates that they will abuse their power more to make up for the lost profits.

  3. The domain squatter daemon [concept] by daniell · · Score: 5
    I believe that there is a domain squatter daemon out there, possibly run by NSI. When looking for a few of the domains we did register (throwawayyourmoney.com; slithy.net, syntaxerr.org) my roomate and I were running a few permutations through NS lookup. We did this for a couple of months, often retesting names to assure persiting availablity (we weren't ready to settle on something yet). Then to our surprise a majority of our previously free names had become registered to various networking consultants, web hosters, and such.

    The results were even faster acting for a friend of mine testing our theory that people lie in waiting for any name based on popularity. He however used NSI's domain name checker directly through their web interface, to find that on the 10-12th look up (usually from varying IPs) the name would be claimed.

    This of course lead to our script idea, that would generate random crap, distribute a largish list to various clients, and have them all periodcally pick a random on every few mintues and try http://www.--- on it. This would last a week and a new list would be made. Compiled statistics on how many attempts, when and from where had been made on each domain, and when these domains had been claimed would then be sent back to be reported in some parsed form. The new list would then be worked through. We hoped that this would eventually discourage people squatting on this basis, due to cost.

    Now I realize that cost may not be a factor for someone like NSI, and I realize that random crap may have to be generated from dictionaries and rules. We were further hoping that through a movie name generator (add the or a small set of adjectives to any noun) would cause enough companies to loose their prefered sites, that there'd be some public out cry.

    We didn't ever implement this thoguh. We get paid for other work.

  4. NSI are the devils. by Xerithane · · Score: 4

    I am so happy to see this
    I hope to see a lot more -- I'm generally against a lot of lawsuits but I really have no choice but to feel utter dispise towards that company.
    My recent dealings with them have been absolutely horrendous, here is a page about it.
    Not only have I had horrible experience with their customer service department, but also they're utilities for updating and registering are so far behind the rest of the competitors I can't imagine why anyone still does business with them.
    The biggest thing I dont understand about them, is that since they lost their monopoly they now only account for 40% instead of 100%? A 60% loss in market share and they still seemingly refuse to restructure their obviously defunct customer service department and registration tools?
    This, above all, deserves to be a Fucked Company life member.
    My worst experience with them, was getting my contact record changed when the email address expired very suddenly. After explaining to them the situation and getting a canned response back then responding to that, then getting another canned response back I finally figured out what to do. You have to FAX them something. Wow, I thought we were living in a digital age, hell no. So I faxed it, nope - they lost it twice! Finally, I get my contact record changed (after 2.5 months of arguing with them) and when I tried to update my domain (nerdfar.org) they are refusing on the grounds that I have not properly proved my identity - yet my contact record is updated.
    If there is a law against this I'd love to nail em for it -- not for any money, I just want my domain to be functional again.
    Well, this is one hell of a rant.
    Morale of the story, screw NSI and use register.com or another one of the registrars because NSI's head is so far up it's ass it's making the slashdot trolls envious.

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    Dacels Jewelers can't be trusted.