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NDK2K: Colorado's Anime Convention

Tetsujin28 writes: "TETSUJIN.ORG has a report on Nan Desu Kan 2K, Colorado's anime convention, which took place on October 13 - 15. The anime forecast for the next year? Cars, more cars, and cuteness." Highlights of the gathering included a concert by Mari ("Voice of Lynn Min-Mei") Iijima, appearances by movers and shakers in the manga and anime field, and previews of upcoming films. A cool report -- wouldn't everyone like to dub their own anime? And funny, too: In the costume contest, "[i]t may be more noteworthy that of just over 100 contestants, there were no fewer than nineteen Sailor Scouts."

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  1. Another Name: CLAMP by Millennium · · Score: 2

    Arguably even more successful than Takahashi, we have this all-female team, with such credits to their collective name as X1999, RG Veda, Tokyo Babylon, and so forth.

    Oh, and that one they don't like people mentioning: a little thing called Rayearth. But come on, they can't be totally perfect, now can they?
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  2. Ohh... the hurting and the burning. by Theodore · · Score: 2

    I missed it this year...
    Money, the root of all frustration.

    I was crazy enough to take greyhound to it last year,
    24 hours each way.
    The things I liked most about MDK'99 were the
    Japanese culture seminars.
    (Yes, I know this is about MDK'2K, but I can only speak of what I know).

    Last year, I hit two different japanese language classes
    (which convinced me that I could indeed learn it),
    a taiko (drum) demo, cooking seminar (which was a bit interesting at that altitude),
    and I know I missed a lot more because I had my ass camped out in viewing rooms the rest of the time.
    One of the best con's I've hit.

    And not to sound like a mega-troll, but to those who missed it,
    always assume there is an anime con the next weekend,
    check any anime sites you know of (www.anipike.com comes to mind first).
    Be proactive, hunt down the cons, and don't give up until you have their head on a stick. ;)
    Even if it's just a small one you have to drive a day to get to,
    it's a new experience, a chance to meet other otaku,
    and above all, to watch more anime.

  3. Get some news going people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Why not warn us of this? I would have went(I live in denver) but only see reports... Reports are reports. Forwarning is News... idiots...

  4. Re:Adapting anime for a new feminist millennium by gargle · · Score: 2

    On the other hand, anime (especially manga) has historically been no better than pornography: it systematically dissects women into their component anatomical parts, except they're just fictionaly women

    Complete rubbish. How much anime/manga have you seen? If that were the case, why would there be so many female manga authors, female manga readers, and female anime convention attendees?

  5. Re:Prices... by Genom · · Score: 2

    I saw this on a shirt at Otakon this year...

    Anime: Only slightly more expensive than drugs!

  6. Defending fiction and defending diversity by Morgaine · · Score: 2

    If only people were more aware of the intrinsic relationship between art and effects on society as a whole, then we might be a littl slower to choose to make that buck at the expense of our common weal.

    That was such a nicely written troll that it deserves a reply. :-)

    Two points:

    (i) With very few exceptions, anime is fiction, set in fictional worlds or universes, with fictional characters involved in fictional situations, and the characters are very commonly non-human or otherwise exceptional in some way. We sometimes identify with one or more of them to a limited degree within the context of the fiction ("identify" may be too strong a word, maybe "sympathize" or "empathize" are closer to the mark), but it almost never goes beyond that. Moreover, the identification is voluntary and personal. Nobody will identify a third party with a character in a cartoon, it just doesn't work that way, to the best of my knowledge. You are looking for demons where none exist.

    (ii) Diversity is good. OK, that's just my moral standpoint and I don't have anything to back it up, except possibly the widely acknowledged benefits of genetic diversity. Be that as it may, if we accept your worries for the sake of argument, all you are doing is trying to impose your own particular set of values on others. There is no future in that. Universal morality always was a flawed concept in any case, but it seemed to prevail in the past simply because it drove alternative viewpoints underground and hence marginalized them. That's no longer possible: as a result of universal connectivity, alternative viewpoints blossom even out of sight of the majority and despite being ignored by the mass media. Diversity wins. You can still live in your own little world of fixed values, but I'm afraid that your wish to coerce others to those views no longer has much likelihood of success. There is no longer a single common weal. It has been replaced by an exploding constellation of different ones, each defining their own rights and wrongs.

    [By the way, it was obviously a troll because anyone that can write as clearly as Anne Marie can also think clearly enough to analyse the situation for herself rather than just repeat mass propaganda and support a single-group viewpoint.]

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    1. Re:Defending fiction and defending diversity by b1t+r0t · · Score: 2
      [By the way, it was obviously a troll because anyone that can write as clearly as Anne Marie can also think clearly enough to analyse the situation for herself rather than just repeat mass propaganda and support a single-group viewpoint.]

      I don't think you're being sensitive to just how pervasive the "mass propaganda" stereotype of anime is. To call someone a troll just because the "mass propaganda" is their only exposure to something isn't a fair way to judge them.

      It's all the fault of the "mall otakus" (the male ones, at least) who watch too much Drag-on-ball Z, Ninja Scroll, Akira, and Urotsukidoji. They've played every fighting game there is, and all they want is to see people beat each other up, a picture splattered with blood, and women getting raped.

      It's time we spread the word that Japanese animation is about more than just blood and sex, it's also about


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    2. Re:Defending fiction and defending diversity by YoJ · · Score: 2

      Ha! You think people will fall for such a crass tactic as putting goatse.cx in a "Read the rest of this comment..." link? Tsk tsk.

  7. Re:Prices... by CIHMaster · · Score: 2

    DON'T BUY FROM SUNCOAST They charge full MSRP, which for most anime is $30/disc. 90% of anime released in the US is dubbed/subbed, dvd mastered, and mass produced here in the States, it's just that the market isn't really that big, so prices are high. Either buy online from some small retailers (www.animenation.com), maybe buy.com, or even (horror of horrors) amazon.com (this is why i hate one-click. makes it too easy to buy anime/manga!) They're all at least $5-$10 cheaper.

  8. Re:Prices... by Megane · · Score: 2
    Suncoast may charge full MSRP, but they do have one advantage: they actually have stuff in stock. Many people ordering from those discount e-tailers have had to wait a whole month after a DVD is released before their order comes in!

    If only Best Buy had the kind of stock levels in anime that Suncoast did, but that's Economics 101 for you: supply and demand. At Best Buy's prices, they can't keep most anime on the shelves (not that they try, beyond ordering Ghost in the Shell a dozen at a time). But I have never seen a copy of Trigun in stock at Best Buy. :(

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  9. Sailor Moonies by Megane · · Score: 2
    In the costume contest, "[i]t may be more noteworthy that of just over 100 contestants, there were no fewer than nineteen Sailor Scouts."

    How many of them were overweight? How many of them were (choke, gag) male? How many of them (whimper) tried to sing?

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    1. Re:Sailor Moonies by tenchiken · · Score: 2

      Actually, I was on staff. If I remember correctly:

      There were 45 cos-players with a SMOON outfit. Only one was male.

      I don't know the stats, but it would not surprise me in the least if there were more women there then men!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. Re:Prices... by Chas · · Score: 3

    I saw this somewhere once. Don't remember where.

    Anime: Drugs would be cheaper



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  11. Re:why do you like anime? by -brazil- · · Score: 2

    First, your history is wrong: Samurai were already replaced by Salarymen in the Meiji restauration, which happened in the later 19th century. Second, the theory about "outlet" is not wrong, but to say that all manga is about dark conflicts and sexual explicitness is bullshit; manga is merely a medium, and in Japan it's simply employed to a much wider range of topics than everywhere else. Many manga depict everyday life; basically, everyhing that is done in literature is also done in manga: silly comedies, exciting adventures, complex dramas, character studies, porn, whatever.

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  12. Wow. & Info for next years. Hayashi's new series. by tenchiken · · Score: 3
    As a staff member at NDK this year, I have to say "thanks" for the mention. The con was a blast this year (although I am still exhausted from the weekend)and many many thanks go out to our "other" guests as well.

    Hiroki Hayashi of AIC. Co-creator of Tenchi, creator of El-Hazard and more directing credits.

    Tanaka-san of AIC. Sound director for Rurouni Kenshin, Hand Maid May, etc.

    Aro-sensei, manga-ka.....

    ADV's announcement that they had taken the rights to Sailor Moon away from DIC was well-recieved.

    Below are more details about Maho Yugi, Hayashi's new series.

    First of all, for those of you who don't
    want to bother to read the rest, here
    are the highlights..

    1) El Hazard is _done_. To quote Mr. Hayashi
    (creator of El-Hazard). "Makoto goes back.....
    that's it...they live happily ever after."

    2) AIC is planning on a new Tenchi OVA,
    (This probibly means that they are in the investor
    stage right now) early next year. Hayashi-san
    will not be involved with it, but he thought that
    the other creator (Mr. Kajishima) might be.

    3) Mr. Hayashi is working on a new Anime
    entitled "Mahou Yugi" (Magical Play or Magical
    Games). This anime loooks really really cool.
    Partially this is because the entire Anime is
    100% redered, and then CG-shaded. They can
    do some pretty impresive shots that were never
    possible w/ Cells (or at least, not very fesable.
    Hayashi thought that they were about 6-9
    months away from finishing it (not
    neccessarily releasing it.)

    Ok More details:

    Mr. Hayashi and Mr. Kazuya Tanaka were invited
    to NDK in colorado this year. I had the pleasure
    of working with them for about 5 days for the con.
    For the record, Both of them are just a blast to have
    around. Mr. Hayashi is really laid back, a lot of fun
    and very approachable. Mr. Tanaka is also a blast
    to have around, and is very energetic ^.^

    Hayashi-san directed Sol Bianca, Tenchi, El-Hazard,
    Daiundokai, BGC2040 (as well as some of the original)
    and more series then I can count. He also created some
    of these series (Tenchi and El-Hazard in particular).

    Tanaka-san did sound direction on anime's like the
    new Sol Bianca, Rurouni Kenshin etc.

    Hayashi-san speaks fairly good english.

    Maho Yugi has to be seen (in motion) to believe.
    Some of the animation stuff they can do is amazing,
    and they come up with some shots that you never
    think about when you are doing anime. The animation
    is incredibly fluid, and while your mind knows that it
    is CG, none of the usual problems (anti-aliasing,
    "blurryness", etc) show up in the animation.

    There was a AIC promo tape that had a high number
    of series and remakes that I have never heard of before.
    AIC has definitly returned to their original genre (Girls
    w/ Guns) and there were two different new series that
    just smaked of BGC.

    ADV announced that they now had the rights to Sailor
    Moon, and Sailor Moon R, not DIC.

    Cowboy Bebop 25/26 aired at the con...... aiyaaaaaa.
    ...................i.c.a.n.t.s.a.y.a.n.y.t.h.i.n .g.m.o.r.e.o.r
    ...................i.w.o.u.l.d.s.p.o.i.l.y.o.u.

    Mari Ijima was there, but I never had enough time to hit
    her concerts...

    I think that above does it.

    Next year is going to be a blast. Find out more Here . Pre-registration forms are up.

    Here is a bit more from my write up on the TenchiML (A fan group for the Series Tenchi Muyo

  13. Re:Prices... by Belly · · Score: 2

    Well, from what I can see even those prices are pretty good. Don't know if a lot of US anime fans realize, but collecting anime is _expensive_. More so if you like original Japanese releases. The fact is, anime sold in Japan is actually more expensive than what you get in other countries.

    An average new release DVD here is around US$40-50. Even second hand ones don't go for much less than US$30 or so.

    Of course, the nice thing about all the DVD releases is that LDs are really cheap here now - I go prowling for second hand LDs a lot, and often get them for 1500yen or less...

  14. Re:Adapting anime for a new feminist millennium by Lx · · Score: 3

    I assume by "new crop of feminists" you mean people like Susie Bright, Camille Paglia and the fine folks at Good Vibrations. Perhaps you more enjoy the old school feminists like everyone's favorite rabid anti-porn activist, Andrea Dworkin? There's nothing inherently wrong with the medium, and there's also nothing inherently wrong with women in the medium having impossibly large breasts. If you look at traditional japanese art, all the way back to wood prints, anatomy was greatly exaggerated for both men and women, and is in anime as well.

    Look at ancient japanese art and you'll see that men were depicted as having such huge members that most would have a hard time keeping their balance. In most modern pornographic or semi-adult anime, the same is true - however, most men don't run around with inferiority complexes about it, complaining that they feel objectified or sub-par because they don't have 20 penises and a 9-inch tongue like the fellows in the movies. Art does not affect society as strongly as you're suggesting.

    It's a very old debate whether art reflects or influences society, but I think it comes down to the fact that you're responsible for your own beliefs and actions. Fact is that no one's forcing you to be degraded, and you're not being oppressed. To roughly quote Eleanor Roosevelt, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

    -lx

  15. Re:Prices... by webm0nki · · Score: 2

    The above 'supply and demand' answer is correct. The anime market in north america while growing, is still quite small when you consider most other dvd releases are backed by major companies with advertising involved to help subsidise the price. Something coming from Warner Brothers has a much higher demand than most anime titles, same goes for Disney and other studios. When they're selling hundreds of thousands of copies instead of a few thousand copies it makes a big difference in the pricing of the product.

  16. Re:Sailor Scouts hhmmmm.... by Flounder · · Score: 2
    I just think that now that networks are starting to pick up anime that hopefully it will reach a larger audience. I just hope the genre does not get pigeonholed in the US the way the regular animation market has. If it does, there will always be the fansubs.

    This is possibly the worst thing that could happen to anime. Look what American culture does to anything foreign. British TV, Mexican and Chinese food, ugh! I'd prefer to pay more money, but keep the quality anime as it is now.

    If you want anime that hasn't been subbed here? Learn Japanese. That's what I'm doing.

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  17. Commercialization of Anime by decipher_saint · · Score: 2
    As a old hand Otaku (the obsession began in 1988) I both love and hate the way Anime and Manga are treated in North America. When we (my Otaku group) used to get together we would talk about how cool it would be if anime was well known and appreciated for what it was, a great art form. And we would discuss about how neat it would be if we could turn on our T.V's and see our favourite shows, or go to a convention that had more than 30 people. Well, those days are gone. We are living the dream so to speak, and it ain't all peaches and cream. Why do I instantly sound bitter? The "Otaku Community" has lost sense of itself. The other community members made you feel like you were part of something, a community. A group of people that would share info on the latest stuff, or talk about the latest fan-sub, joke about happenings and the like. Now (it seems to me) like you are just another consumer that needs to be fitted with a feed bag. The last convention I went to (Animethon [Edmonton, Alberta], which I have supported since day one) was tremendously overcrowded (try getting a seat, for any show!) and most people were generally treated like numbers. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I pine for the olden days when it was just a small group of people drawn towards something they love.


    God, I sound like an old man sometimes

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  18. umm.... by fluxrad · · Score: 5

    thanks slashdot. now i get to sit on my ass drinkin' a beer on Larimer thinkin' "Why the fuck didn't they tell me about this thing a month ago?!?!?"

    news it's so timely, you won't be able to experience it for another fsckin' year!!


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  19. Back in the old days by decipher_saint · · Score: 2
    Anime was next to impossible to find (I'm talking 1990 ok). The only way you could get it was through a chain of friends and even then you would be getting a dub of a dub of a dub. Or you could pay the literally astronomical prices of import companies or fun-sub groups for a copy of your favourite stuff. I recall a guy who paid over $100 USC for an Urusei Yatsura OVA. Sure, prices have always traditionally sucked in North America, but it is getting better. Also, always check places like eBay, you never know what might turn up ;-)

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  20. Re:Man bites dog... by Count+Spatula · · Score: 3

    And in other news, an anime convention drew a whole 1477 people.

    I suppose it would have been cooler if it had drawn 1337 people, right?

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