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hubersan writes "The new trailer is up at http://www.seednd.com Oh MAN. Lotsa nice CG.." I suppose it would be rude to link directly to an Akamai URL, so I won't do it. Quicktime, naturally. Conscience strikes: should I see this movie and give my money to Time-Warner? Update: 10/26 6:09 PM by michael : Sadly, we've been asked to take down the direct link to the file.
Another take on it:
But that's just me.
fearbush.com
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So why don't they fix it and release the final trailer?
Don't tell us they are still working on it 6 weeks from the release date on December 8th...
>Every time you see an $8 TW movie, send $16 to
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>the EFF. That's $24 a movie, so it will make you
>evaluate what you see more critically.
I really like the concept of this. This isn't unlike some of the ideas to use services like PayPal to compensate music artists (long
In a way, this is kind of a self-tax, where you get to decide where your tax money goes to. This is a neat idea! Worried about polluting the earth, but you have a long commute? Give 50 cents a gallon for every gallon of gas you use to your favority charity. This is a really interesting concept, thanks for sharing...
By the way, the link to donate to the eff using paypal is here.
-Twid
- "When you want something with all your heart, the entire universe conspires to give it to you" -Paulo Coelho
And then they thought, "You know what this trailer needs? Orff's Carmina Burana!"
But don't you see? Carmina Burana makes EVERYTHING better!!!!
You know that not all videos that are released to theatres are from members of the MPAA. And that sometimes they use the big boys for distribution... so it looks like an MPAA movie.
If a serious boycot was done, it could end up hurting the smaller, independent studios, the ones that need our support. Is giving a few cents to an evil empire so bad that you don't want to help those small rebel forces trying to make good film?
I suggest that before you decide to boycot a movie, look at who is producing the movie, not who is distributing it and base the decision on that.
As sort of an analogy...
I was a paper boy once. The paper had an editorial cartoon that offended the local Unions in our town. The union then boycotted the paper. But, the union, in all fairness, suggested that those that recieved delivery to still tip the paper carier (and maybe a little extra because we got payed per paper) to prevent a loss of revenue to the little guy.
We should all follow this idea.
-I just work here... how am I supposed to know?
Lets boycott MPAA...unless a geek movie comes out. It surprises how 'dedicated' /. people are
Chaos, Mayhem, and Destruction: Not
It all depends. If you're Lawful Evil aligned, there's no problem at all with seeing a Time-Warner movie. (If you're Chaotic Evil aligned, you might want instead to sneak into the movie. Chaotic Good might also do this, as they might rationalize that it's not evil since you'd not be giving money to Time-Warner.)
Shoulndn't this movie have been made at around 1982? Like, you know, around the first edition AD&D rules?
Of course, the anti-D&D Crowd back in the day beat TSR with the wonderful "Mazes and Monsters" starring Tom Hanks. Fortunately, Tom Hanks went on to much better movies in his career, like Bachelor Party and Joe Vs. The Volcano.
So the bus boycotts in the 60's were wrong since they were harming the profitability of the bus drivers? It isn't they're fault that civil rights didn't exist at the time. idiot
Yeah, those bus companies were instrumental in passive civil rights legislation... geez...
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Although this has nothing to do with D&D, I figured it to be the time to ask:
Has anyone managed to get a QuickTime viewer working under Linux? Apple unfortunately didn't have any Linux support on their website last time I checked (I wonder why), and the few Linux QuickTime articles I found on the web were no help. Any slashdotters out there who have gotten this to work, please let me know!
kugano
Unfortunatly, there is a long list of drivers who thought they could drive without regard for the speed limit or basicly any other traffic laws. Of course, some people will say "those people were just bad drivers to begin with, or drunks, or total idiots who couldn't tie thier own shoes much less change lanes on the interstate at 85mph while talking on a cell phone" Yeah and D&D is just a game! Like people who think they can play around with drugs, sex, or windows me, the person who drivers a motorized vehicle is just getting in line to die. The evidence is clearly stacked against them. The interstates are too carefully designed to cause death to avoid. Yeah, right.
I love going down to the elementary school, watching all the kids jump and shout, but they dont know I'm using blanks.
Yeah, this is the kind of fucking insightful kind of response I expect to see on /. these days.
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Which when I last checked was part of the lawsuits.. it's not Time-Warner, but I believe they were named as a plantiff.
BilldaCat
"Those people were just weird or losers to begin with." There, I said it. The tiny number of people who lose touch with reality while playing RPGs were pretty far gone anyway. I'm pretty sure that just about anything could've pushed the over the edge. If it wasn't D&D then it could've been professional sports, depressing poetry, Road Runner cartoons, etc.
Just for comparison, bow many people are killed each year in fraternity hazing incidents? All because they so desperately want to be part of an abusive and manipulative group that they're willing to debase themselves, place their lives in danger, commit criminal acts, and lie to protect their abusers? That commonly accepted social behaviour seems far more dangerous than any game of medieval cops-and-robbers could ever be.
In fact, I think that some of the most brilliant religious minds in history would've been ardent fans of D&D. Look at Milton's 'Paradise Lost', with a downright sympathetic view of the fallen angel Lucifer. Heck, large chunks of D&D's original mythology were lifted straight out of Dante's classic works. Were those authors, so revered by the church in their time, also whistling in the dark while invoking demonic forces?
The world is full of destitute, foolish, unstable, and depressed people. IMHO, the church's true mission is to help these people and illustrate by example. This goal is _not_ served by endlessly engaging on one foolish witch hunt after another. Most churchgoes know better than to fall for this sort of nonsense. Try using the brain God gave you, and maybe you'll find youself joining them.
-BryanI'd pay good money to see how they visualize each '66' on the critical damage tables :D
"Pinky, you've left the lens cap of your mind on again." - P&TB
"I can see my house from here!" - ST:
Peter Jackson rules. Ever seen "Braindead"? (aka."Dead Alive"). The scene where Timothy mows down a room full of zombies by walking up and down holding a lawnmower at head height is a classic!
Consciousness is not what it thinks it is
Thought exists only as an abstraction
On the other hand, football players are more likely to commit violent crimes, as much as ten times as likely as the general population.
Hence, football players are one hundred times as dangerous to society as D&D players.
I wish I had a link to the appropriate stats. I know they're out there; I hope someone finds and posts the link.
And, Nathaniel, every single one of your cited sources is spurious at best and a full-on lie at worst.
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Actually, the one that got me was something along the lines of "Dude, that musta been some like major magical experiment gone wrong or something!"
*sigh*
What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand?
"Dude, I totally wanna be the knight and do all that stuff like kill things and rescue chicks in trouble." "No way, I'll be the knight. You can be the jester." "That guy from Top Gun?" "No dude, those midgets that make you laugh." "But I'm not a midget." "So crawl on your knees, bee-yaawwwtch." And then the person dressed as the knight slaps the other in the ass with a sword, leaving a welt that causes a rift between the two cliques in the Winnebago as half see it as a by-product of playful fun while the others see it as a sign of the increasing violence of one of their number.
Yeah, I'm waitin' in line for that one.
Sadly, I don't give a fuck what New Line Cinema thinks i can link to.
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Here's the crappy trailer
Here's a direct link to the file, broken up. I couldn't past it in entirely because apparently slashdot thinks long strings are lame. Which is lame. Ironic, huh?
http://a784.g.akamai.net/5/784/51/4cba529b0c96f
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If this post is removed, slashdot censors.
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Fine how about this ... the statement that the original post made, that x is OK if enough people say x is OK, is among the more asinine pieces of "logic" I've heard lately.
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and compare the percentages?
What are the odds that a) it's a wash, or b) the percentages are the wrong way?
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
hey, lay the hell off.
haven't you read your Joseph Campbell?
There are only so many plots and story elements to work with, if you intend to make a satisfying piece of work. So why not focus on those elements that hit closest to home? like getting the girl, defeating the villian, etc. these elements are metaphors for challenges you'll be facing all the rest of your days.
To prove my point, I guaruntee that a wizened old man will send the main character off on his journey in the D&D movie. Because HE, the old man, is an element common to almost every epic, myth or parable that can be considered an 'adventure', throughout all of human history, from every culture and continent.
ok, so I'm out ill today. I have a really good point about this, and if it coming off incoherently, I apologize. Maybe someone else could back me up in a more eloquent fashion? I'll shut up now...
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I guess I'm only a Fudboy, looking for that real Transmeta
Many? There have been one or
two reported cases, of
previously distrubed individuals
commiting henious acts.
However, there has never been
any conclusive proof that occurences
of said sort are higher in the role-playing
community than amongst the regulars. There
have been a few studies that show a lower
occurance of violence amongst role-players...
but they did have some questionable aspects
to them.
Even for those few sick individuals who
did commit some horrible act, you can
not that they would or wouldn't
have done these things w/o exposure to
role-playing games.
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Myddrin
I'll assume this isn't a troll... It's a fake. The scenes are from other movies that the actors have appeared in. Didja notice the scene where all the jedis are in a battle charging down a hill... in KILTS!?! Snip from Braveheart, color the swords like light sabres, et voila... instant jedi battle.
You can even find this 'trailer' on adcritic, where they admit that, even though it's a fake, it's a cool fake, so they're hosting it.
Eric
( 4 minutes to download a 26Meg video, just to find out that I can't play the stinking thing!. )
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As for boycotting Time/Warner: that's where the rubber hits the road. It's easy enough for me to boycott something that I wouldn't see anyways. (whoop de doo). It's not a boycott unless you don't purchase/see things that you would if it weren't for the boycott. Either shit or get off the pot (or get off your high horse if all you're going to do is shit us).
It's somewhat like when Ghandi started asking people to boycott the British Textile mills and start wearing homespun. It's not like people liked homespun. What they liked was the idea of getting the british off their backs. To do that, they took (cool-looking and often better made) british cloth off of their backs.
If you're going to take on the fight, you've got to be willing to take the hit.
Those who aren't willing to fight for their freedom don't deserve it.
Malcom X
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You guys went and saw X-Men and did a review on it, so the point is moot, isn't it?
BilldaCat
Who then passes (after creative Hollywood accounting) something on to the weasels at TSR...
Evil, evil, evil... Just can't match that in the movies.
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Not that uncommon, really. Music from Braveheart was heard in a sizable percentage of trailers over the past year (or more.)
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what about all the other fantasy settings that deserve a film we've not seen many... a cartoon LOTR, a half arsed Dune, a passable battlefield earth maybe its time for fresh inspiration.
Theres a few fantasy films that I'd love to see made:
Dragonlance: Either from the D&D adventures or the orignal books. If only to have Tas and Raistlin in a movie...
Fafhrd & The Gray Mouser: Weird plot lines, weird characters,weird leopard boats... would make a great film and Terry Pratchett obviously took his Death persona from these books.
Elric: The series would tranfser to film very well, the ending might put a damper on any sequels though...
Or how about: "Didn't Willie Nelson's great great great great great great great ... great grandfather play the Crusaids concerts to raise money for the crusaders?"
I wrote parts of this stuff
But I doubt that slashdot has enough storage.
I can't help thinking 'My god! This is gonna suck!' and yet I'm excited. Will I go watch this movie? You bet. It's like a childhood dream come true, and no way I'm gonna pass on that geekfest!
Having a conscience doesn't mean you can't see Time Warner movies. It just makes life more expensive.
Every time you see an $8 TW movie, send $16 to the EFF. That's $24 a movie, so it will make you evaluate what you see more critically.
It's not like we don't have enough expendable income in this country. Today, at my local best buy in rockville, they called in the riot police because the people who lined up at 5 am for Playstation2's were trying to beat up the people who lined up at midnight and fell asleep.
Try going to the local line of rabid PS2 shoppers and tell them that the PS2 is selling their fair use rights out the window. I bet you they'll all ask you if they could sign away their "fair use" thingies for a lower number in line.
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I was hoping to see a home movie of a bunch of kids rolling dice, playing the game, not a CG extravaganza. Oh well, I guess Time Warner knows whats best.
Sneak into the movie without paying for it.
Problem solved!
One future, two choices. Oppose them or let them destroy us.
I remember taping paper covers over my D&D books* in high school-- circa 1977 -- so no one would know what I was carrying around.
It wasn't a matter of getting beat up for being such a geek . . . it was having to explain what the hell the things were. I think there was one other guy in school who knew about gaming, and he was too busy trying to get into M.I.T. to start a campaign.
Now . . . movies? D&D appearing in sitcoms? Geekdom is really in yer face these days.
Stefan
* Second printing of the original three-book set, now signed by Gygax hisself!
Yeah, now the famous Who fan luck takes over - he'll appear onscreen for about 60 seconds and deliver two lines.
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And then boys and girls, it is a sure bet that every (and there are quite a few, looking to cash in on pre-LOTR swords and sorcery mania - look at all the mar's movies made/being made recently) every fantasy picture in pre-production is going to get shit-canned by nervy executives eyeing the Hindenburg-like demise of DnD.
Further to this, come xmas 2001 when Peter Jackson's LOTR fucking blows the DOORS off theaters around the world; we will see a horde of shoddy knock off's hastily produced only to die horribly, and the cycle beings anew. I'd be surprised if there weren't a few sucesses, but for the most part they will be about as satisfying as Mission To Mars.
And just a word on the trailer - pretty-boy main characters spouting dialogue lifted from Scream?? No, no, no, no, no.
Also speaking as someone in the FX industry - film schedules are hellish, political beasts. Whoever pulled the FX off for this look like they were asked to produce a TITANIC amount of shots in probably a very short time, and almost certainly with infighting among the people driving the project (happens EVERY time). What I saw here, taking into consideration what must have been a grueling post-production peroid, was very impressive for what it is. Jurasic Park/Dragonheart quality is very expensive to produce when you consider the cost of just one Softimage seat, the SGI/Wintel box to run it, the per-CPU cost of licensing an advanced renderer like Pixar's PRMAN (you should see that bastard do lizard skin) the cost of the operator, the compositing suites, the film scanning and recording, shader development yadda yadda yadda. Not to mention the sheer volume of research, motion tests, building and testing working IK/FK rigs for each character (skeletons, basically). Frankly I'm amazed they pulled it off and if some of the CG looks, well, CG-ish, just consider the amount of work that was put into it. Frankly if I saw a job like that come across my desk it'd give me a case of the screaming heebie-jeebies.
Well, it looks like the official site is slashdotted. Might as well spread the fun. If you really want more information check out dndmovie.com. Lots of photos, a few interviews, and generally a fun fan site which got some good behind the scenes information.
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Actually, I thought she looked just like the princess in "The Neverending Story".
Free Hans!
So, starting in the next release, you won't have to worry about that anymore. Of course, that doesn't help for the current release...
Free Hans!
How the _hell_ is this
off topic? I was directly
responding to the arguements
the guy put forward.
It's too late now(no one is reading
this thread) but that is pure
unabashed bullshit.
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Myddrin
Conscience strikes: should I see this movie and give my money to Time-Warner?
Um, sure... how else are you going to see it?
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Holy sweet Jesus, could it get any more formulaic? From the wise-cracking black guy (at least it's not a wise-cracking black guy being CGI rendered as Jar-Jar), to the pseudo-heroic main character who gets the girl in the end, to the evil guy who's trying to take over the entire world because it's his destiny, there aren't many generic points that haven't been touched. Quest for a magical item? It's there! Creepy sidekick to the bad guy with weird facial features? He's there!
Jeremy Irons, how low you've slipped. For shame.
and if only I knew the system better, would it be cool to replace it with one of the Mac-using-but-Intel-advertisors Blue Man Group commercials?
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"Nothing the god of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.." -Roy Batty
Although they may seem alike in some respects (both are set in a fantasy world with fantastic creatures, monsters, magic, etc.) one was produced by Hollywood studios for millions of dollars, while the other was produced by a band of computer geeks who barely know each other and wanted all the thrill of a role-playing game without much of the actual role-playing. While MUD (the movie) does have a cast of thousands of characters, all of them have (mostly) the same items, with the lead characters having an insane amount of gold and experience. What's worse, they fight the same monsters over and over again, sometimes into the wee hours of the morning, with long breaks where the characters do nothing but sleep. The characters start saying things for no apparent reason (what does 'lag' mean anyway?) and sometimes disappear or end up frozen in place for no apparent reason.
While there is nothing illegal about MUD (the movie), we are concerned that unscrupulous theater managers and video vendors may try to pass off MUD (the movie) as D&D (the movie). Don't settle for immitations. The real D&D movie is not yet in theatres, nor are tapes of it available. If someone should represent MUD (the movie) as D&D (the movie) please contact the MPAA immediately. It is vitally important that the MPAA not be denied the money it needs to dest^H^H^H^Hprotect artistic freedom. Thank you.
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Check out www.gamegrene.com for a full synopsis and blistering review.
Plus they also have an ongoing series reviewing some of the best fantasy movies of the 1980s.
Good to see a comparison, and how bad this new one is compared to the old classics.
AOL keyword: DnD
Internet keyword: DnD
Did I misread it? If not, what is an internet keyword? My browser (IE5 - I'm at work) thinks I want to go to MSN when I type DnD in the address box.
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We've got:
- cute/innocent chick ruler (From Ep1)
- Nasty council/advisor types (From Ep1)
- Marlon Wayans vs. Jar Jar (From Ep1)
- Way cool CG cities (From Ep1)
- Way cool CG dragons (From LotR)
- Kids with swords (From both)
- Bad guys with stupid makeup (From Ep1)
- Creepy Goblins (From LotR)
- Lightning from finger tips (okay, that was EpVI...)
- Extremely dramatic music (From LotR)
- Interesting arial battles (From Ep1)
- Kids with swords (From LotR)
- "Kill them slowly... AHHHH!" vs "Wipe them out, all of them... AHHHH!" (From Ep1)
All that said, this looks really cool, and as someone mentioned, this will be good filler while we wait for Lord of the Rings. And Marlon Wayans is funny, unlike Jar Jar.--brian
I'm pretty excited about Lord of the Rings, though.
The impossibly goody-two-shoes empress who believes everyone should be nice is gonna be the leader of the good guys?
Thanks to that Scary Movie guy for proving once again that in action movies, black guys should play the scared comedic thief with no morals and a thirst for easy cash.
Blue lipstick??? That's supposed to look evil?
If the dragons look like CGI at this resolution, can you imagine them on a movie screen?
"Then we'll make them go through a dungeon! Yeah! Because, you know, we've got dragons, but where are the dungeons? Huh?"
My little brother DM'ed stories that sounded more original when he was 11.
That being said, for some reason, I still find this exciting. First, it's gonna be a filler while we wait for LotR... And if they can make something that slick with the shoestring budget and two-bits director they have, can you imagine what Peter Jackson and a decent budget will turn up?
If I had a time machine, I'd go straight to Christmas 2001!
Then he'd steal the movie. (wouldn't want to miss it, whould he?)
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Another guy goes into the military, gets demolitions training, then comes out and blows up a couple hundred Oklahoma civilians. Do you see them trying to ban the military???
NOOOOOO!!!!!!
Now, that's hypocracy for you.
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Wow! They came up with the plot for an action movie full of lots of swordfighting! And then they thought, "You know what this trailer needs? Orff's Carmina Burana!"
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Just curious, and my brain is rather fried right now from trying to fix my network, so I really can't remember what they have done.
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It looks like it's a genuine, honestly held belief.
- You may disagree with it, but that's not the point of moderation.
- I can't count.
- It's led to some serious discussion, but most people are now missing the source of the discussion by default.
- The issue of free speech gets it's real test when you have someone honestly speaking something you viciously disagree with.
- Don't you wish that book-burning christian sites would allow the geek reply in their space?? Well, here's a chance to live by example.
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The issue isn't giving money to time-warner... its if my loan will be approved so that I can afford a popcorn and drink.
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Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
This refers to "Internet Keywords" (tm) from Real Names. I don't know a soul who uses them, though, except possibly Mado nna .
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Conscience strikes: should I see this movie and give my money to Time-Warner?
Why not go to your cinema, pay to see a small, independent movie then when they let you in, 'accidentally' go into the wrong screen (These big multi-screen cinemas sure are getting big nowerdays) and watch it, whilst giving your money to the small independents?
It's not really legal, but as has ben said so many times before: It's not stealing unless something is missing.
Michael
...another comment from Michael Tandy.
"Goodness me, how unlike the FBI to abuse the trust of the American public." -- The Onion
The saddest thing is that they have made a movie about a game that is about your imagnination. How ironic can you get?
How can we tell that this is a D&D movie over any other type of movie? Dragonheart was a D&D movie right? So was conan the barbarian , etc. Are we going to get to see a character get knocked over by a wayward dice roll? That would be the only definative way to tell it was a D&D movie.
They all owe their life to Lord of the Rings anyways so can't we say this is just a trailer that movies coming out? sorta like a compare and contrast thing with LoTR.
Papa Legba come and open the gate
when I type DnD into IE5... it leads me to think this movie is some sort of plot by the Canadian Armed Forces
These canadians have a thing called the Department of National Defense, leading to the acronym DND. This is in thier domain names (like http://www.dnd.ca/).
Search engines tend to give priority to keywords found in domain names, because they tend to have more chance of having a relationship. This is happening here.
Michael
...another comment from Michael Tandy.
"Goodness me, how unlike the FBI to abuse the trust of the American public." -- The Onion
I don't want a lot, I just want it all!
Flame away, I have a hose!
Only 'flamers' flame!
- The bad, evil sorcerer keeps his hair parted, and when wind blows into his coiffed creation, he looks like Buster Poindexter.
- It co-stars Jar Jar Binks. Oh, wait, no, I guess that's just Marlon Wayans. Same thing.
- The main character says, "Trust me," right there in the trailer. The use of the phrase "trust me" in a trailer is a sign of impending crap storytelling 90% of the time. To my recollection, the only film that really bucked that trend was Raiders of the Lost Ark, which used "Trust me" in the trailer, but then didn't suck.
- The male lead looks like he's fresh from a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers casting call. It just seems "seriously wrong".
- The use of the word "kinda" in a fantasy setting.
It seems like this is pointed squarely at the teen movie market, but one would think that the market who would connect best with D&D is the 18-34 market (y'know, people who were alive when parents across the US were afraid that their role playing kids would become involved in the occult and commit suicide when their characters died).Admittedly, I don't know the story here. Maybe it's the same as the old D&D cartoon - a couple of kids are magically transplanted into the game and have to play it to get out. In that case, all this hokey teen crap works, because they would be from a different world, but if we are to believe that these characters were part of this world from day one...
Please, Peter Jackson, deliver us from bad fantasy films.
I would have never though the fourth doctor(Doctor Who, for all you youngins) would be crossing the genre barrier into this.
This will be a geek extravaganza! Expect people camping in front of movie theaters for this and centerfolds in Starlog!