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hubersan writes "The new trailer is up at http://www.seednd.com Oh MAN. Lotsa nice CG.." I suppose it would be rude to link directly to an Akamai URL, so I won't do it. Quicktime, naturally. Conscience strikes: should I see this movie and give my money to Time-Warner? Update: 10/26 6:09 PM by michael : Sadly, we've been asked to take down the direct link to the file.

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  1. Re:Conscience? by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 5
    Lawful Good: Pay to watch the movie. Buy a copy on tape or DVD for the family.

    Another take on it:

    • Lawful Good: Doesn't see the movie, as tempting as it may be, because s/he knows that that money is going to trample on our rights
    • Lawful Neutral: Hunt down counterfeiters on the Web and turn them in to the MPAA
    • Lawful Evil: Work for the MPAA, on their legal team.
    • Neutral Good: Figure out what's worse: not seeing the movie and possibly harming the role-playing-game genre as far as the corporate public goes, or seeing the movie and paying the MPAA to trample on your rights. Go with your conscience.
    • True Neutral: See the flick. Or don't see the flick. Depends on your tastes.
    • Neutral Evil: Work for a major movie studio as an advertising executive.
    • Chaotic Good: If you must see the movie, sneak in. If the cops hassle you about it, explain that it's a political protest.
    • Chaotic Neutral: Buy movie ticket, eat it. Beat up usher with a trout.
    • Chaotic Evil: Become a prodcer.

    But that's just me.

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  2. Re:Simple. by Twid · · Score: 3

    >Every time you see an $8 TW movie, send $16 to
    >the EFF. That's $24 a movie, so it will make you
    >evaluate what you see more critically.

    I really like the concept of this. This isn't unlike some of the ideas to use services like PayPal to compensate music artists (long /. discussion here.)

    In a way, this is kind of a self-tax, where you get to decide where your tax money goes to. This is a neat idea! Worried about polluting the earth, but you have a long commute? Give 50 cents a gallon for every gallon of gas you use to your favority charity. This is a really interesting concept, thanks for sharing...

    By the way, the link to donate to the eff using paypal is here.

    -Twid

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  3. MPAA boycot rules/ideas by tolldog · · Score: 3

    You know that not all videos that are released to theatres are from members of the MPAA. And that sometimes they use the big boys for distribution... so it looks like an MPAA movie.
    If a serious boycot was done, it could end up hurting the smaller, independent studios, the ones that need our support. Is giving a few cents to an evil empire so bad that you don't want to help those small rebel forces trying to make good film?

    I suggest that before you decide to boycot a movie, look at who is producing the movie, not who is distributing it and base the decision on that.

    As sort of an analogy...
    I was a paper boy once. The paper had an editorial cartoon that offended the local Unions in our town. The union then boycotted the paper. But, the union, in all fairness, suggested that those that recieved delivery to still tip the paper carier (and maybe a little extra because we got payed per paper) to prevent a loss of revenue to the little guy.

    We should all follow this idea.

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  4. hmmm by niekze · · Score: 3

    Lets boycott MPAA...unless a geek movie comes out. It surprises how 'dedicated' /. people are

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  5. Conscience? by Ptolemarch · · Score: 5
    Conscience strikes: should I see this movie and give my money to Time-Warner?

    It all depends. If you're Lawful Evil aligned, there's no problem at all with seeing a Time-Warner movie. (If you're Chaotic Evil aligned, you might want instead to sneak into the movie. Chaotic Good might also do this, as they might rationalize that it's not evil since you'd not be giving money to Time-Warner.)

    1. Re:Conscience? by cribeiro · · Score: 5

      The Complete Alignment Table

      First, the lawful characters:

      • Lawful Good: Pay to watch the movie. Buy a copy on tape or DVD for the family.
      • Lawful Neutral: Pay to watch the movie. Sleeps inside the theater.
      • Lawful Evil: Does not need to pay to watch the movie. They have contacts in the entertainment industry and have seen the premiere.

      Now the chaotic ones:

      Chaotic Good: Download a copy of the movie from the 'Net. Watch it on a Linux machine.

      Chaotic Neutral: Rolls a dice. 50% chance of paying to watch the movie.

      Chaotic Evil: Buy a pirate copy of the movie. Hates the end of the movie, where the good guys always win.

      Now the neutral bastards :-)

      • Neutral Good: Don't care. Wait for the movie top be released on cable TV.
      • True Neutral: Don't care. The last time it has seen a movie it was 40 years ago, in the gold years of Hollywood.
      • Neutral Evil: Don't care. Wait for the movie top be released on cable TV, and then ask a friend to record it for him.
    2. Re:Conscience? by Ptolemarch · · Score: 4

      I don't agree with your table. The Good characters couldn't give money to Time-Warner. For the Lawful Good character, this means you can't watch the movie (unless perhaps you have a friend who already legitimately owns the movie, and you're watching it there, but even then a truly Good character might balk at it). The Neutral Good character is off campaigning for Nader, so he doesn't have time to watch movies. The Chaotic Good character snuck into the theater, and probably snuck in some snacks, too.

      The Evil characters have no problem with giving money to Time-Warner. The Lawful Evil character has to pay in order to see the movie (but he probably already has contacts in the industry: good point). The Chaotic Evil character might pay, might not, but would definitely put his feet up on the chair in front of him, and would probably strew popcorn about and loudly make obscene comments during the movie. The Neutral Evil character goes to the movie, pays (it's easier that way), and at some point probably engages the Chaotic Evil character in combat sometime during the movie just to shut him up.

      Those of Neutral Good/Evil alignment don't care about Time Warner. Of course, the Lawful Neutrals still pay. It's the other two Neutrals I don't know about. (And I've really never liked the idea that Chaotic Neutrals always roll dice to make their decisions for them. They don't like randomness, they like Chaos. They probably sneak into the movie precisely to make obscene comments.)

  6. Re:Great visuals, poor acting... by Zak3056 · · Score: 4
    The use of the word "kinda" in a fantasy setting.

    Actually, the one that got me was something along the lines of "Dude, that musta been some like major magical experiment gone wrong or something!"

    *sigh*

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  7. Re:Come on! by fudboy · · Score: 3


    hey, lay the hell off.

    haven't you read your Joseph Campbell?

    There are only so many plots and story elements to work with, if you intend to make a satisfying piece of work. So why not focus on those elements that hit closest to home? like getting the girl, defeating the villian, etc. these elements are metaphors for challenges you'll be facing all the rest of your days.

    To prove my point, I guaruntee that a wizened old man will send the main character off on his journey in the D&D movie. Because HE, the old man, is an element common to almost every epic, myth or parable that can be considered an 'adventure', throughout all of human history, from every culture and continent.

    ok, so I'm out ill today. I have a really good point about this, and if it coming off incoherently, I apologize. Maybe someone else could back me up in a more eloquent fashion? I'll shut up now...

    :)Fudboy

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  8. Well, hell Slashdot.. by BilldaCat · · Score: 5

    You guys went and saw X-Men and did a review on it, so the point is moot, isn't it?

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  9. Simple. by mwalker · · Score: 5

    Having a conscience doesn't mean you can't see Time Warner movies. It just makes life more expensive.

    Every time you see an $8 TW movie, send $16 to the EFF. That's $24 a movie, so it will make you evaluate what you see more critically.

    It's not like we don't have enough expendable income in this country. Today, at my local best buy in rockville, they called in the riot police because the people who lined up at 5 am for Playstation2's were trying to beat up the people who lined up at midnight and fell asleep.

    Try going to the local line of rabid PS2 shoppers and tell them that the PS2 is selling their fair use rights out the window. I bet you they'll all ask you if they could sign away their "fair use" thingies for a lower number in line.

  10. A little let down by xmalenko · · Score: 5

    I was hoping to see a home movie of a bunch of kids rolling dice, playing the game, not a CG extravaganza. Oh well, I guess Time Warner knows whats best.

  11. Come on! by B-Rad · · Score: 5

    Holy sweet Jesus, could it get any more formulaic? From the wise-cracking black guy (at least it's not a wise-cracking black guy being CGI rendered as Jar-Jar), to the pseudo-heroic main character who gets the girl in the end, to the evil guy who's trying to take over the entire world because it's his destiny, there aren't many generic points that haven't been touched. Quest for a magical item? It's there! Creepy sidekick to the bad guy with weird facial features? He's there!

    Jeremy Irons, how low you've slipped. For shame.

  12. Scathing review of this travesty at Gamegrene.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    Check out www.gamegrene.com for a full synopsis and blistering review.

    Plus they also have an ongoing series reviewing some of the best fantasy movies of the 1980s.

    Good to see a comparison, and how bad this new one is compared to the old classics.

  13. Waiting for LotR by Enoch+Root · · Score: 5
    There's a couple of problems with that movie from the onset of the trailer... To name a few:

    The impossibly goody-two-shoes empress who believes everyone should be nice is gonna be the leader of the good guys?

    Thanks to that Scary Movie guy for proving once again that in action movies, black guys should play the scared comedic thief with no morals and a thirst for easy cash.

    Blue lipstick??? That's supposed to look evil?

    If the dragons look like CGI at this resolution, can you imagine them on a movie screen?

    "Then we'll make them go through a dungeon! Yeah! Because, you know, we've got dragons, but where are the dungeons? Huh?"

    My little brother DM'ed stories that sounded more original when he was 11.

    That being said, for some reason, I still find this exciting. First, it's gonna be a filler while we wait for LotR... And if they can make something that slick with the shoestring budget and two-bits director they have, can you imagine what Peter Jackson and a decent budget will turn up?

    If I had a time machine, I'd go straight to Christmas 2001!

  14. Re:Give money to T-W by Maryck · · Score: 3

    Actually, TSR long has not existed as a company for awhile now. Wizard of the Coasts owns the D&D franchise along with the TSR trademark and is doing its best to avoid the mistakes TSR made in the past. Of course WotC is owned by Hasbro I believe.

  15. Re:QuickTime in Linux? (off topic) by Marcus+Meissner · · Score: 3

    I have spent some time to get the QuickTimePlayer Version 4 running under WINE, it plays the trailer now, but only with some tricks (getting it to open the file is rather tricky).

    Don't worry, I'll pursue this further ;)

  16. Re:Last frame of the trailer by Rupert · · Score: 4

    Interestingly, the top 10 links in the MSN search are all for the Canadian military. And then IE5 GPFed on me.

    Is Dungeons & Dragons really a Canadian conspiracy as many have suspected all along?

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  17. Conscience... by Mike1024 · · Score: 3
    Hey,

    Conscience strikes: should I see this movie and give my money to Time-Warner?

    Why not go to your cinema, pay to see a small, independent movie then when they let you in, 'accidentally' go into the wrong screen (These big multi-screen cinemas sure are getting big nowerdays) and watch it, whilst giving your money to the small independents?

    It's not really legal, but as has ben said so many times before: It's not stealing unless something is missing.

    Michael

    ...another comment from Michael Tandy.

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  18. the saddest thing.... by Papa+Legba · · Score: 4

    The saddest thing is that they have made a movie about a game that is about your imagnination. How ironic can you get?

    How can we tell that this is a D&D movie over any other type of movie? Dragonheart was a D&D movie right? So was conan the barbarian , etc. Are we going to get to see a character get knocked over by a wayward dice roll? That would be the only definative way to tell it was a D&D movie.
    They all owe their life to Lord of the Rings anyways so can't we say this is just a trailer that movies coming out? sorta like a compare and contrast thing with LoTR.

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  19. Great visuals, poor acting... by Sinistar2k · · Score: 5
    I was incredibly excited about the D&D movie until I watched this trailer. For some reason, I was certain that this film would hold me over until Lord of the Rings is released next year. But, there were a few things that struck me as warning signs:
    1. The bad, evil sorcerer keeps his hair parted, and when wind blows into his coiffed creation, he looks like Buster Poindexter.
    2. It co-stars Jar Jar Binks. Oh, wait, no, I guess that's just Marlon Wayans. Same thing.
    3. The main character says, "Trust me," right there in the trailer. The use of the phrase "trust me" in a trailer is a sign of impending crap storytelling 90% of the time. To my recollection, the only film that really bucked that trend was Raiders of the Lost Ark, which used "Trust me" in the trailer, but then didn't suck.
    4. The male lead looks like he's fresh from a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers casting call. It just seems "seriously wrong".
    5. The use of the word "kinda" in a fantasy setting.
    It seems like this is pointed squarely at the teen movie market, but one would think that the market who would connect best with D&D is the 18-34 market (y'know, people who were alive when parents across the US were afraid that their role playing kids would become involved in the occult and commit suicide when their characters died).

    Admittedly, I don't know the story here. Maybe it's the same as the old D&D cartoon - a couple of kids are magically transplanted into the game and have to play it to get out. In that case, all this hokey teen crap works, because they would be from a different world, but if we are to believe that these characters were part of this world from day one...

    Please, Peter Jackson, deliver us from bad fantasy films.