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Cheaper Video Cards Compared

An unnamed correspondent writes "For those of you that can't afford to spend $600 on a video card (like everyone!) there's a really thorough comparison of different the best 10 value (meaning $150) 3D graphics cards, using chips from Matrox, NVIDIA, 3dfx and ATI. The authors show off benchmarks on an AMD Duron 700 for 3D and then look at DVD as well as 2D."

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  1. Radeon a "value" card? by Temporal · · Score: 4

    On PriceWatch, the GeForce 2 is selling for $169, just $10 more than the ATI Radeon DDR, and $30 more than the Radeon SDR. I don't think the Radeon DDR fits in the "value" range, and the SDR is arguable.

    Last I checked, the GeForce 2 is the second fastest card on the market, right behind the GeForce 2 Ultra (which is still insanely expensive).

    Oh, and the Voodoo 5 goes for $234. Go figure.

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  2. Re:So ... what about affordable Linux gaming? by Denor · · Score: 3

    I don't know if this counts as "value", but I've got a Voodoo 3 3000 (picked it up for about $150, I think they're less expensive now) and it works flawlessly with XFree 3.3.6 and Q3A.

    I've heard the drivers aren't the best, but I haven't had to deal with it - when I switched distros, the new one picked up the card and threw the drivers in for me so I didn't have to set anything up.

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  3. You pansy! I have... NO VIDEO CARD in my Linux box by SlushDot · · Score: 4
    It's my main server sitting on the cable modem and firewall to my internal LAN, why does it need a video card at all? That just wastes a slot that can have another ethernet card in it.

    I've only got 5 slots in my machine. One has a sound card, the other 4 slots have network cards. eth0=static IP #1, eth1=static IP#2, eth2=DHCP addr, eth3=Internal LAN.

    If I need a colsole for administration, I can ssh or remote X display one. I can even use a serial port in an emergency.

    Sure, I installed a video card to set up the box. After Linux was running, the card was gone.

    Video cards are for the weak!

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  4. High End Boards Overrated by MousePotato · · Score: 4

    I have worked in places where the 'average' system would have Elsa's and Oxy's in them for CAD and Rendering/Animation work on real nice 21" monitors. The high end market is way overrated IMHO. Before you flame me hear me out: Consider this the average user in a production environment sets the resolution at what? (drumroll:1024x768x24b) Why is this? I am not sure. Maybe they never figured out that you can change the size of the fonts as they are drawn to the screen, whatever. I am not trying to be funny but when I walk by workstations and see machines set like that I go nuts. Just seems like mad money wasted. Personally I prefer to view at 1600x1400 or better if the monitor can handle it, possibly giving up a little color depth for the higher res. Most of the boards in the 'low end' can handle 1024x's just fine and cost a fraction of that GMX with 96megs on it that your boss lays out 2 grand for. An Oxy (just an example though I really, really like 'em) is capable of much higher res and greater color depth but it won't speed up your render times considering there is not much talkback between your card and the cpu. Screen refresh is indeed faster. Antialiasing finer. A kick ass CAD jockey or modeler will benefit from the combination of a good monitor and card but does it really justify the expense? Take that extra few hundred dollars and throw it into memory. You will benefit much more performance wise. Heck, for the price difference you could build additional boxen for your render farm. Take an office with 30 workstations, put in a good 'low-end' board in say 28 of them and you can build a nice sized farm just with the money saved.

  5. So ... what about affordable Linux gaming? by miniver · · Score: 4

    I'm only interested in Linux gaming, and I'm not a super-fast speed-freak gamer, and I don't have an infinite budget. These cards look nice, but which ones have Linux drivers, and what versions of XFree86 do they support?

    I was pretty happy with my Matrox Millenium G200 card until I tried to load Q3 Arena ... figuring out which drivers to load where and how to configure them was more effort than I could afford. I would like to replace it, but I want something that works with XFree86 3.3.6 and Q3A. Recommendations?


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    1. Re:So ... what about affordable Linux gaming? by Greyfox · · Score: 3
      I've got a G400 Max on my home system and Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament are both pretty damn snappy (Athlon 700, 384 megabytes of RAM) on it. I haven't made the jump to XFree86 4.x yet, so I'm still running Utah GLX on 3.3.6.

      While setting up GLX was a pain in the ass, most of the ass pain came from the flakey AGP slot on the cheap motherboard I got. If you go for high end made in Taiwan rather than low end made in Taiwan (or Intel) your life should be much easier.

      I set up Xfree 4.x at work and that seemed to be pretty easy, as long as you use a kernel that supports the DRI stuff.

      Anyway, I like Matrox since they've traditionally been one of the more Open Source friendly companies. If Nvidia's opened up their Geforce2 drivers yet, it'd no doubt be a more future proof card.

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    2. Re:So ... what about affordable Linux gaming? by Some+guy+named+Chris · · Score: 3

      The following affordable linux games are known to work perfectly under all the tested cards.

      • adventure
      • fortune
      • mille
      • wargames
      • worm
      • wump

      In fact, almost every game in the bsd-games package is well suited to these "value" cards, with the exception of maybe "fish".

  6. Re:Goes to show you... by FFFish · · Score: 3

    Don't forget that you pay for your stuff with post-tax dollars.

    It takes about 100 hours of labour to earn $600 post-tax dollars. That's two and a half weeks of full-time work.

    And I'm not even bothering to factor in other paycheque incidentals, like insurance and workers comp and so on. Truth is, once all taxes and so-called "optional" debits are withdrawn from your paycheque, it's probably closer to 120 hours to earn $600 on an $8/hr wage...

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  7. Easier to use links by shepd · · Score: 3

    If you're like me, the fact that Sharky Extreme doesn't use hyperlinks to their best extent is driving you insane. Although their info is always sound.

    Make you life easier and get straight to the goods you want:

    Enjoy!

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  8. Marketing vs. Necessity by Poligraf · · Score: 4

    Manufacturers probably hate such reviews since they get most of their profits from the latest and greatest hardware. So, everything that tells smart shoppers to avoid wasting money and be happy with a bit older hardware that is still perfectly capable deprives them from the stupidity tax enthusiasts and ignorants pay (I know that some folks MUST have this hardware for CAD, but they are minority and usually don't pick the tab themselves, leaving it to their employer).

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