Truth be told, I'm having a hard time believing that Pakistan didn't know he was there. I think the more likely scenario is he was there under house arrest as part of some deal he made with the Paki's. He did have access to quite a bit of money and giving the US access to Afghanistan via roadways and airspace for an extended period of time has proven to be quite lucrative to the Paki government. I think the Paki's full well knew he was there and kept pointing intel to the tribal regions for a variety of reasons.
funny enough, he is apparently editing and updating the article live. That and censoring most of the comments that are critical of the writing and suggesting corrections.
Wow... I'm wondering how much money one could possibly make as a 'professional chess player' because by some definition of the word 'professional' they should all be making some sort of coinage.
Is there any info on this as a career? Just curious...
... If BP were forced to shoulder the entire cost of this mistake, they would go bankrupt.
Actually, BP won't foot the bill for this. Ultimately, it will be cheaper for them to pay the fines imposed on them as restitution rather than actually pay for the whole clean up. What they will do is get the thing capped and then back to business as usual. A quick glance at their 2009 Q4 earnings will quickly make you realize this will in no way bankrupt them.
First, there is no "bait and switch". The deal is clear and in the open from the beginning.
Actually, the alternative OS removal with the PS3 happened quite some time after the units were put of for sale. I think many in the EU will succeed in getting some sort of compensation for their purchases because of it as mentioned here on/. last week.
The seller decides what they are offering to a customer, and what they charge the customer for this offering. A different offering would cost different amounts of money. You are basically saying that you don't want to allow any contracts where contracts are used to establish what you get for your money.
Actually, I never said anything of the sort. I read the fine print and decided caveat emptor. The way the agreement went with the iphone said essentially that I am paying for a device that I wouldn't technically own, just use, and it actually belongs to AT&T and Apple. So, no thanks.
As an example, let's say a car manufacturer sells two variations of the same car, one with 100 horse powers, and the other with 200 horse powers, for different prices. Which is Ok, you get different things, you pay different amounts. Now the manufacturer finds a way to change the horse power of its engine using software. They can still offer the same two car variants, but you are saying they shouldn't be allowed to do that. What justification do you have for that except your own personal greed?
I see your point but I disagree; its a terrible analogy. If a person buys the 200 hp car and discovers the 100 hp purchaser got the same deal for the software upgrade then they are entitled to some form of compensation. Afterall, they bought the 200 hp model. If the upgrade makes their car a 100 hp lemon then same thing applies.
If I buy a car I don't have to go to the dealer if I decide on a better stereo, rims, seats, shocks, tires and add tint to the windows. If I lease a car I cannot do any of those things unless I can restore the vehicle to 100% of its original condition when i return it minus the usage i put it through.
As for the 'own personal greed' jab; I honestly don't think its greedy to expect to get what you pay for. If you purchase something and its to your liking then you got what you wanted because the product is what it is. If you purchase something and later the manufacturer of the product decides to remove functionality, for whatever reason, and makes the product useless to you then that's just not right.
How would you like it if in your car analogy the manufacturer decided that in order to be more 'green' and cut emissions by 14% (cool new trendy feature added) the car shouldn't be operable one day a week?
First, there is no "bait and switch". The deal is clear and in the open from the beginning.
Actually, the alternative OS removal with the PS3 happened quite some time after the units were put of for sale. I think many in the EU will succeed in getting some sort of compensation for their purchases because of it as mentioned
actually, i think you miss the point. If you buy something it should be yours to do whatever you choose to do with. People are purchasing iphones and ps3's, they aren't leasing them. Once you take possession after purchase they shouldn't be able to change they deal... its called bait and switch and is a questionable practice.
full disclosure; i own neither device because of said practices and while the ipad looks like a nice device I'll never own one of those either.
or perhaps; they are intelligent, out there, have sufficient grasp of the huge distances/difficulties involved and decided not to waste their energies on 'travel' to focus on their own planets and civilizations...
without getting into all that religious tom foolery...
I agree with you that the reasoning for his decision was abhorrently stupid. I'm just saying in hindsight, the overall effect was to force science to look for a different way. In the process, it did and found some great things.
you know, funny enough I was pissed at the short sightedness of the stem cell decision at the time too. Interestingly, because of that very limitation, a whole bunch of very good alternatives have been developed in the interim and many advancements made.
Someday that decision will be reversed in one way, shape or form... Until then, I'm still glad to hear that we're pushing forward finding alternative methods. Who knows? If it turns out that you are the best source of stem cells for your own customized gene therapy then that decision may end up being the smartest thing W ever did.
I'm not too worried about the lefties to be honest. For a long time they have lacked the fortitude to stand up to the right in any meaningful way.
They had plenty they could have impeached gwb (even if unsuccessfully) with but didn't. They at one point had the votes to pass pretty much anything meaningful but they didn't. They are too scared to invoke the 'nuclear' option (the right on the other hand wouldn't think twice about this to move their agenda forward) They totally lack a real plan.
At this point the healthcare issue really is dead on arrival too. A few more weeks of self inflicted delays and it will be time for a bunch of lefty incumbents to start pandering the votes again for mid term elections. They don't want to look bad now, even though they already do and the right will trounce them. I'm thinking this coming election will lame duck the president and it will be like Carter for the following two years; just waiting it out for the 08 elections.
To be fair, I'm not a big fan of the right and their agenda at this point either but they at least get shit done.
Thanks for posting those links. I can picture a young Dave Halliday 'repairing' a light bulb, only to have it blow up in his face. Perhaps that should have been categorized as an unwise lightbulb experiment;)
Isn't that how its supposed to work? Its just a big racket. They managed to find a way to automate getting a piece of it. In this economy props to them.
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Truth be told, I'm having a hard time believing that Pakistan didn't know he was there. I think the more likely scenario is he was there under house arrest as part of some deal he made with the Paki's. He did have access to quite a bit of money and giving the US access to Afghanistan via roadways and airspace for an extended period of time has proven to be quite lucrative to the Paki government. I think the Paki's full well knew he was there and kept pointing intel to the tribal regions for a variety of reasons.
Taco posts and no replies??
wtf?
well, that whole article smacks with errors.
funny enough, he is apparently editing and updating the article live. That and censoring most of the comments that are critical of the writing and suggesting corrections.
I don't disagree with your points.
I do however think you missed mine.
shit happens?
wow.
That.. is... well...
Disturbing.
Even more so is that you knew to post all those links.
Hundreds of professional chess players?
Wow... I'm wondering how much money one could possibly make as a 'professional chess player' because by some definition of the word 'professional' they should all be making some sort of coinage.
Is there any info on this as a career? Just curious...
... If BP were forced to shoulder the entire cost of this mistake, they would go bankrupt.
Actually, BP won't foot the bill for this. Ultimately, it will be cheaper for them to pay the fines imposed on them as restitution rather than actually pay for the whole clean up. What they will do is get the thing capped and then back to business as usual. A quick glance at their 2009 Q4 earnings will quickly make you realize this will in no way bankrupt them.
/. system not working correctly today...
First, there is no "bait and switch". The deal is clear and in the open from the beginning.
Actually, the alternative OS removal with the PS3 happened quite some time after the units were put of for sale. I think many in the EU will succeed in getting some sort of compensation for their purchases because of it as mentioned here on /. last week.
The seller decides what they are offering to a customer, and what they charge the customer for this offering. A different offering would cost different amounts of money. You are basically saying that you don't want to allow any contracts where contracts are used to establish what you get for your money.
Actually, I never said anything of the sort. I read the fine print and decided caveat emptor. The way the agreement went with the iphone said essentially that I am paying for a device that I wouldn't technically own, just use, and it actually belongs to AT&T and Apple. So, no thanks.
As an example, let's say a car manufacturer sells two variations of the same car, one with 100 horse powers, and the other with 200 horse powers, for different prices. Which is Ok, you get different things, you pay different amounts. Now the manufacturer finds a way to change the horse power of its engine using software. They can still offer the same two car variants, but you are saying they shouldn't be allowed to do that. What justification do you have for that except your own personal greed?
I see your point but I disagree; its a terrible analogy. If a person buys the 200 hp car and discovers the 100 hp purchaser got the same deal for the software upgrade then they are entitled to some form of compensation. Afterall, they bought the 200 hp model. If the upgrade makes their car a 100 hp lemon then same thing applies.
If I buy a car I don't have to go to the dealer if I decide on a better stereo, rims, seats, shocks, tires and add tint to the windows. If I lease a car I cannot do any of those things unless I can restore the vehicle to 100% of its original condition when i return it minus the usage i put it through.
As for the 'own personal greed' jab; I honestly don't think its greedy to expect to get what you pay for. If you purchase something and its to your liking then you got what you wanted because the product is what it is. If you purchase something and later the manufacturer of the product decides to remove functionality, for whatever reason, and makes the product useless to you then that's just not right.
How would you like it if in your car analogy the manufacturer decided that in order to be more 'green' and cut emissions by 14% (cool new trendy feature added) the car shouldn't be operable one day a week?
First, there is no "bait and switch". The deal is clear and in the open from the beginning.
Actually%
First, there is no "bait and switch". The deal is clear and in the open from the beginning.
Actually, the alternative OS removal with the PS3 happened quite some time after the units were put of for sale. I think many in the EU will succeed in getting some sort of compensation for their purchases because of it as mentioned
actually, i think you miss the point. If you buy something it should be yours to do whatever you choose to do with. People are purchasing iphones and ps3's, they aren't leasing them. Once you take possession after purchase they shouldn't be able to change they deal... its called bait and switch and is a questionable practice.
full disclosure; i own neither device because of said practices and while the ipad looks like a nice device I'll never own one of those either.
Now, THAT was pretty funny!
Gonna have to use that somehow, somewhere in the future.. thanks for the laugh :)
I'm thinking that those sick fucks don't really use the keyboard... their hands are probably busy doing 'other things'
or perhaps; they are intelligent, out there, have sufficient grasp of the huge distances/difficulties involved and decided not to waste their energies on 'travel' to focus on their own planets and civilizations...
without getting into all that religious tom foolery...
I agree with you that the reasoning for his decision was abhorrently stupid. I'm just saying in hindsight, the overall effect was to force science to look for a different way. In the process, it did and found some great things.
yikes I put 08 in there? I coulda sworn I was typing 12... off too bed for me.
you know, funny enough I was pissed at the short sightedness of the stem cell decision at the time too. Interestingly, because of that very limitation, a whole bunch of very good alternatives have been developed in the interim and many advancements made.
Someday that decision will be reversed in one way, shape or form... Until then, I'm still glad to hear that we're pushing forward finding alternative methods. Who knows? If it turns out that you are the best source of stem cells for your own customized gene therapy then that decision may end up being the smartest thing W ever did.
I'm not too worried about the lefties to be honest. For a long time they have lacked the fortitude to stand up to the right in any meaningful way.
They had plenty they could have impeached gwb (even if unsuccessfully) with but didn't.
They at one point had the votes to pass pretty much anything meaningful but they didn't.
They are too scared to invoke the 'nuclear' option (the right on the other hand wouldn't think twice about this to move their agenda forward)
They totally lack a real plan.
At this point the healthcare issue really is dead on arrival too. A few more weeks of self inflicted delays and it will be time for a bunch of lefty incumbents to start pandering the votes again for mid term elections. They don't want to look bad now, even though they already do and the right will trounce them. I'm thinking this coming election will lame duck the president and it will be like Carter for the following two years; just waiting it out for the 08 elections.
To be fair, I'm not a big fan of the right and their agenda at this point either but they at least get shit done.
nice. I saw them pass by like that once, just after separation.
Last time I saw the ISS it had almost a golden color to it.
on a side note; a few years ago we got to see the orbiter coming in (i'm in south florida) and watched part of the big turn. sweet.
Thanks for posting those links. I can picture a young Dave Halliday 'repairing' a light bulb, only to have it blow up in his face. Perhaps that should have been categorized as an unwise lightbulb experiment ;)
Isn't that how its supposed to work? Its just a big racket. They managed to find a way to automate getting a piece of it. In this economy props to them.
It's only fair, afterall; many large municipalities use tickets and violations as income streams. dnot forget the recent traffic signals scandal...
And that, my friends, is how you spur on economic recovery.
Well said.
If only I had mod points today.
Now excuse me while I wipe the coffee off of my monitor.
it's not everyday that 63 municipal police, 39 municipal government officials, and 7 government contractors are accused of conspiracy and corruption.
I guess you've never heard of Chicago.
geez...
here in miami they'll even re-elect them when they get out of jail.