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Napster Cuts Deal With BMG

n8willis writes: "According to a Reuters story I caught on Excite this morning, Bertelsmann AG (owners of BMG among others) has agreed to drop its lawsuit against Napster in exchange for equity in a new 'membership'-based music service to be jointly 'developed' by the two. This 'service' will allegedly be 'secure.' Anybody smell membership 'dues?'" Probably inevitable for Napster to cut deals a la MP3.com -- but the implementation of this joint project will be the thing to watch.

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  1. Re:This makes me want to vomit by finkployd · · Score: 4

    Napster isn't really a good example of true p2p filesharing (like gnutella, freenet, etc).
    Keep in mind that napster requires a central server to function, and that it is completly controled by a corporation. I don't think this has any real implications for p2p.

    Finkployd

  2. Not like MP3.com by iElucidate · · Score: 3
    It was inevitable for Napster to join in partnership with the record companies. Of course they will make a pay service - how else could they make money? Ads? However, this is very different than MP3.com. MP3 is paying for the rights to license the songs for a limited time, so that they can stream them like one would stream a radio station. However, Napster is licensing in a different way - they are allowing people to download the songs, and keep them permanently. Thus, they will probably have some kind of "per song" fee. It would be nice to have a flat-fee service, but somehow I doubt it. Additionally, it is likely that most of the music will move to Napster servers, and Napster will just become another music download system, like eMusic, except with their own client program.

    Yes, this is sad, but it was inevitable. You can't have a small commercial enterprise both making money and fighting the massive record companies -- it is hard to do one, much less both, at the same time. And for a company with no profit model, it makes even less sense.

    So we wait, and we hope, and perhaps Napster will turn out both legal and better. Somehow, though, I doubt it.

  3. This makes me want to vomit by ToLu+the+Happy+Furby · · Score: 3

    Does it bother anyone else that the concept of peer-to-peer file transfer just settled out of court? Yeah, I know, a settlement doesn't set a legally binding precedent. But something tells me we can all thank Napster for selling our rights down the drain.

    Of course, it's hard to deny that a settlement probably is in Napster's best interests. Maybe this just means that we can't let corporations fight for our civil rights; they are not citizens, and thus will almost always have little to lose by giving up.

    Yes, we're still free to fight on our own, but this is going to take a lot of momentum away. With P2P fragmented amongst a dozen different networks, it's going to be hard to be able to point to something and say, look, if 35 million people engage in a behavior, then by any concept of a social contract based government it cannot possibly be illegal. What are the chances David Boies is going to work pro-bono for Gnutella?

    Ugh. Well maybe the rest of the big 5 will be typically shortsided and this will all fall through, and we'll finally get this decaying mess of an anachronistic copyright system hauled in front of the Supreme Court. Or maybe this is better; maybe it's best that it doesn't get that far until the costs of letting media conglomerates rewrite the copyright laws becomes abundantly clear to everyone.

  4. Here's how it works: by generic-man · · Score: 3

    Just select seven FREE* music selections. Then just download one music selection within a year at our special Low Member Price (usually $9.95-$15.95 per track). Then take four FREE* more music selections!

    That's like twelve downloads for the price of one!

    * A handling charge of $4.95 will be charged for each "FREE" music selection purchased.

    --
    For more information, click here.
  5. Re:I wouldn't necessarily assume you'll have to pa by ToLu+the+Happy+Furby · · Score: 5

    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't BMG one of the CD clubs that you purchase a dozen CDs for some price and you don't have any further financial commitments (as compared to some others where you have to purchase a certain number of full-price CDs within a certain time frame)? They might keep it free and load you up on ads or make money selling demographic information about you instead.

    BMG is a major record label. They run the BMG CD club, just like Columbia, another major label, runs Columbia House.

    Ironically, it is these CD clubs, not Napster, which are stealing from artists. When you get your 12 CDs for 1 penny, those CDs don't just come free from the sky--they come directly out of the artist's pockets.

    Yes, that's right. Not only is the artist not making any money (like Napster), they are actually losing it when you order their CD from a CD club. All those CDs are chocked up as "marketing costs", and billed to the artist--along with recording costs, studio time, tour costs, and other promotional costs. (The musician pays every last cent of the cost of recording and selling their album, but the label, not the artist, owns the copyright on their work.) Meanwhile, the label--not the artist, mind you--makes a huge profit by tricking people into paying for all those extra CDs that come along with membership. (For those who don't know, you don't have to pay for anything you don't order; just send it back.)

    And finally, unlike Napster, no one who rips off a musician by ordering their CD through a CD club ever goes out and pays for it, because they already have the real thing. A disgusting practice, all in all--one which Napster was helping to end.

  6. Won't Ever Work by burris · · Score: 5
    These membership models are doomed to failure. It's likely that the RIAA will demand only "blessed" MP3's be avialable from the service, there goes the availability of obscure music. Further, it's possible that the RIAA will demand that only "SDMI friendly" formats or whatever are used, there goes the convenience of MP3. ...and how will the money be divvied up anyway? If it's a fixed monthly memebership, then you can bet that the wealth will be distributed according the statistical "Business As Usual" method that will continue to line the record company and a few ultra-famous artist pockets while further marginalizing the little guys.

    In any event, nothing will stop people from trading the music on free networks.

    Record companies are still focused on the way they made money in the old days: controlling distribution and charging for every copy made. They seriously do not understand that they have lost control over distribution forever. Instead of expending so much time and energy trying unsuccessfully to control the flow of data throughout the 'Net (impossible), they should concentrate on making it as easy as possible for people to compensate the artists after they download music, no matter where they get it from. Directly compensate the artist/publisher for music you like. If your friend e-mails you an MP3 and you hate it, should you have to pay anyone for it? Hell no! You took nothing from them.

    If it were as easy clicking a button on your MP3 player to send a 'tip' to the artist/publisher, people would do it. After all, everyone knows that artists have to make some money to keep producing art. People trading MP3's want to give money to their favorite artists, the problem right now is they cannot! About as close as you can get right now is to go buy the physical album or go see a concert and/or buy t-shirts and whatever. What if you live in Abu-Dabi and can't buy the album or go see a concert? Centuries of experience with busking and recent tipping experiments on the net (such as Steven King's _The Plant_) show that people will compensate artists if they like what they hear.

    Let's face it, the 'Net provides the opportunity for more music from more artists to reach more people than ever before, for almost no cost to the artist/publisher. Instead of capitalizing on the inexpensive and efficient flow of data on the 'Net, the RIAA is trying to restrict it. It won't ever work and they will loose out as a result of it.

    Setting up compensation systems for artists/publishers will be a long and political process, but people are working hard on the solutions.

    Burris