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Netscape 6.0 Released

Dave writes: "The first non-beta release of Netscape 6.0 has made its way onto the Netscape FTP server. The Windows, Linux and Mac versions are currently available. The version in the directory pointed to is a network installer. If you want to download all the files in one go then go into the 'sea' directory. However, for a more cutting edge browser then grab the latest nightly builds from Mozilla.org, the Mozillazine builds page tells you which nightly builds are worth downloading." And Mozilla doesn't draw the same standards-compliance critiques as Netscape 6.0 does, either.

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  1. from netscape.public.mozilla.general by jesser · · Score: 5
    Mark wrote:
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    > Clarence (Andreas M. Schneider) wrote:
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    > > Clarence wrote:
    > > > ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/
    ]
    > > Now "Permission denied" (before my download was complete).
    >
    > It took me several attempts, but at about 12:20 AM, I was able to grab
    > all the components and install.

    Be careful. We have not announced the product yet, and typically pre-push
    various candidate builds just to test out the distribution mechanism and
    site. What you got may not end up being the final bits.

    I recommend that when the final bits are actually released you should
    compare the date stamp in your user agent with someone who did download the
    final bits and make sure they are the same. If they differ I'd recommend
    re-installing the real release because the fixes we've accepted in the past
    week have been really serious ones (security exploits and things of about
    that level).

    -Dan Veditz


    (Dan works at NS)

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  2. Mozilla? by intmainvoid · · Score: 5
    However for a more cutting edge browser

    And not just cutting edge - at the rate it's going, Mozilla is going to have more features than any application on earth, let alone any browser.

    I wonder if it'll ever get out of beta!

  3. Re:If this is final... by psergiu · · Score: 5

    Read your /.
    Mozilla.org Posts New Roadmap

    ...or the mozilla site:
    mozilla development roadmap

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  4. Don't get all excited by lemox · · Score: 5

    That directory has been there for eons... long before the PR releases came out, and it's always had the permissions set to deny anyone. I love how someone sees a directory structure and knee-jerk posts, just to get a submission in...

    This is almost as bad as seeing nightly builds with a milestone number in them and then screaming "Mozilla MXX is out!!"

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  5. Mirrored by TheSwitch1 · · Score: 5

    Well, netscape may have closed it dirs, it has been mirrored allready, for example:
    ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub /ne tscape/netscape6/english/6.0

  6. The links did work by linuxci · · Score: 5
    I would like to explain that the links for the FTP server did work when I posted the links to slashdot and I've downloaded the Linux version to prove it (I can mirror later if people ask), unfortunately I didn't grab the win version at the time.

    It looks like Netscape has but the release up on their FTP server but didn't want it for public viewing yet. At the time it was wide open, now they've made it permission denied until they finally release it.

    My view of the Linux version - better than previous Netscape previews but the latest Mozilla nightly is still way ahead. I got a few crashes on this release which I've not had with the latest Mozilla's but overall the Netscape release seems OK.

    One prob with the Linux version is it still spouts all the messages to stdout/stderr if you run it in an xterm - for a supposedly released product to say things like "we don't support eBorderStyle - please fix me" seems a bit unprofessional. Perhaps they'll fix this in the next few days before they open up their FTP servers again. I sent feedback to them about it on their feedback form, all they need to do is to get their shell script that starts mozilla-bin to redirect all output to /dev/null not exactly a high risk fix.

    Anyway sorry for the disappointent caused, this FTP server worked for hours after I submitted the story

    Dave

  7. Re:Netscape 6 Final by neutrino · · Score: 5

    The difference between the present and the days of the 3.0 browsers is that today the "standards" are innovative. CSS-2, DHTML, DOM and XML/XSL are technologies that empower developers to do far more than can be done today. No browser even supports a signifigant portion of CSS-2. CSS-2 and XML allow us to finally escape the shackles of presentation and content being intertwined. If you don't develope internet sites, this might seem trivial, but when you are down in the trenches trying to provide a site that looks good on a new and "innovative" browser, but at the same time works on a cell phone, you learn to appreciate the innovation that the standards have. Check out the amazing things that can be done with standards over at the W3C and then try and find a better innovation that is needed in some browser.
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  8. Netscape vs windows by Barkboy · · Score: 5

    shall we have a poll to see which crashes more often?

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  9. Strategy and Needed Standards by twisty · · Score: 5
    I think that Netscape faces a lot of obstacles to its own survival, but sometimes all it takes is a single saving grace to make it worth the while. Just as the Mac was saved by niche markets such as education and publishing productions, Netscape could have the corner on similar markets. Take MathML for instance. Mozilla and Netscape have MathML and IE doesn't. We are in an interesting phase of mathematical history where Fermat's Last Theorem has fallen, soon to be followed by Goldbach's Conjecture and the Reimann Hypothesis. Current publishers (AMS.org) have a bit of a stranglehold on all those crucial publications that individuals and higher institutiona need in order to cite reputable research. The web is positioned to topple its old metaphors... but it's not yet ready...

    ...Without a means to publish formulea on the web, the real revolution in math research is held back. MathML is the most likely candidate to mainstream this renneassance. It's already working in Mozilla/Netscape, but IE makes no mention of it, and will be playing lots of catch-up.

    Likewise, the ability to dynamically move transparent objects over a page is exactly where Mo/Netscape excel, and IE will again be behind "the bleeding edge."

  10. Getting JAVA + SSL to work in Mozilla (Windows) by WackyTJ · · Score: 5

    This is a quick guide for those who are saying Mozilla doesnt have JAVA and SSL support, explaining how to enable both under Win32. If anyone can explain how to get it working under linux, feel free to add to this.

    Download the lastest Mozilla build (check comments on www.mozillazine.org for build information)

    unzip the build into c:\mozilla (or whatever you wish)

    Get hold of the Sun JAVA2 1.3 JRE (Java Runtime Environment)

    Install the Sun JRE, and reboot the system.

    Copy the 3 Java Plugin files (npjava12.dll, npjava11.dll, npjava32.dll) from the JRE directory to the Mozilla Plugins directory ( bin/plugins).

    This will enable full Java support.

    To enable SLL and https support, run Mozilla and serch the menus for a menu itm called "Install PSM" this will take you to a web page on IPlanet and at the bottom is a button saying "Install Netscape PSM for Windows" (there is also a install netscape PSM for Linux too).

    click the button, and the PSM will automatically download and install itself, then restart Mozilla.

    Thats it, SSL + JAVA 2 working.

  11. Re:There goes the bandwidth. by shippo · · Score: 5
    Oh, I've just discovered that DirectX 8.0 is being released this weekend as well.

    Anything else being released this weekend? We could also see 2.4.0 kernel, Gimp 1.2, glibc-2.2, gcc-3.00 or even the next Win2000 service pack.