Ham Satellite Suffers Failures, Is Silent
"We may have to wait until after Christmas for another reset. Controllers have not transmitted a hard reset command yet, which would work even with the flight computer crashed, as they wish to explore other options. The satellite would automaticaly cycle through a number of frequencies and antennas if it does not get any commands for 10 orbits, and controllers hope to re-establish control as this happens. A hard reset could delay that option.
"The satellite waited several years for launch due to Arianne 5's early failures and a revised accelleration profile for the booster that required a redisign of the satellite frame to take additional stress. Aging may have effected components such as the fuel valves. Telemetry stopped suddenly during work on the 400 Newton kick motor, leading to speculation that the satellite may have suffered physical damage, but NORAD radar profiles indicate that it has not exploded.
Problems with Phase 3-D are bad news for hams, who raised $1 Million for the satellite, the 40th in the series of Amateur satellites launched since 1962. Phase 3-D has been criticized for pu ting too many eggs in one basket, unlike other small ham satellites built on a low budget and more easily launched as hitch-hikers with other payloads than the multi-ton Phase 3-D.
"The core development team urges patience. The satellite is in a stable orbit in one piece, just where it is expected to be, as confirmed by NORAD. They can take lots of time to debug it where it is, and hope to restore its functionality.
"For bulletins, see the AMSAT web site.
"A number of other ham satellites remain operational, and astronauts are currently using a ham station on the International Space Station to speak with people on the ground."
A hard reset would be physically turning the system off and on again.
ctrl-alt-delete is a soft reset.
My understanding is that they also have the equivalent of the "big red power button" or "control-alt-delete", which they haven't even started to try yet.
In 2000. I guess you haven't seen this! 1.8 MHz through 450 MHz, all modes, self-contained AA batteries, and OK it's got a shoulder strap, but it's a handheld.
And no, I haven't missed articles on working satellites via FM. That's what I was talking about.
People can set their own challenge levels, and if they are interested they work from low to high. Having an easy satellite mode would have been a great starter for beginners and especially young people. You know young people, they look like other hams, but aren't bald with a limp :-)
People gave me the same argument about packet in the 80's, which came down to where's the sport in that? Not everybody is into Amateur Radio for the sport.
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The RAM corruption on the experimental backup flight computer is a normal feature until the EDAC software "scrubbing" routine is enabled. This constantly scans RAM for errors and corrects them before they grow too large to be correctible. That software has not been loaded yet.
The 145.898 beacon was not damaged, a 440 MHz one was. The 145.898 beacon runs from the backup flight computer while the 440 MHz one runs from the primary one. That's why the backup flight computer could cause a loss of telemetry.
There have been a good deal more than 40 Amateur satellites, only the ones that actually reached orbit and transmitted get numbers, and there are Amateur satellites outside of this numbering series.
Insiders tell me to relax, have patience, and that it is really jumping the gun to think the bird is lost.
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Ask NASA, other space agency or people in university labs that research this stuff about proper radiation shielding for processors?
Actually, NASA and most other space agencies utilize data collected on Amateur satellites. IOW, a lot of the research comes from the Amateur community.
A Ham satellite might launch with five different types of RAM, each hardened using five different new techniques. The hardened RAM might be donated by various agencies. They get to test their RAM-hardening techniques cheap. The Amateur community gets free space-hardened RAM in exchange for the risk posed by using something not quite tried-and-true.
I, too, wish them luck. I might even blow the dust off my IC-970H and 22C/40CX!
de Gus 8P6SM (formerly active on AO10, AO13, AO16, FO20, KO23, AO27)
Several years ago I worked for an "engineering service contractor" for NASA, and had the opportunity to design the sensor electronics for a space-based sun-staring telescope, called Solar X-ray Imager. The task would not have been excessively difficult except that the radiation levels expected were quite high, and we had to design it to be very radiation resistant. This proved to be very expensive to do.
For certain electronic functions, there are radiation hardened integrated circuits. We used a set of CMOS devices manufactured by Harris (now Intersil) which are manufactured using a silicon-on-sapphire technology which makes them tough indeed. (The manufacturer claimed that they were radiation resistant up to "strategic levels" - to run through massive radiation doses and never glitch...) While they were very good parts, their cost was incredible. They were getting US$ 225 for a single 75hc00 equivalent device which usually costs 25 cents. Processors and memories had prices that were proportionally worse. Nobody but government bodies with the power of taxation can afford these things.
The other method of achieving radiation hardness is shielding. In our case, we had to use this in addition to the radiation hardened integrated circuits, because the telescope sensor itself was not radiation hardened (otherwise it would not have been able to see light either!) The shielding we used was made from tantalum, machined in shapes to cover the sensitive parts. Now tantalum is not inexpensive, it does not machine well, and is heavy. The weight is the limiting factor, since whatever you use you have to launch into space, and the cost per kg is very high. Shielding which is sufficient is also too heavy to launch on a secondary payload.
My thoughts? Amsat did the best they could within the budget, and the budget (raised from donations) did not provide enough money to use the premium radiation hardened parts everywhere.
Too bad...
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Free the mallocs!
How well can the radiation conditions of space be replicated on earth for testing tis sort of thing?
You use an X-ray machine, a van de Graf generator, a vaccumm chamber, and so on. It doesn't get you all of the way there, but it can give you some data.
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Where the hell are you getting this ESA stuff from?
All they did was sell space on their rocket - The launch itself went perfectly. No evidence of government screwups there.
The satellite was designed, built, and the launch paid for with private funding. AMSAT is non-profit, but non-profit != government!
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
As I read this article (at +2, no parent -- seems reasonable in most discussions), I'm distraught by the number of posts being displayed by Bruce Perens. Sure, he's (appearently) a smart guy who knows at least enough about the subject to author the article, but why are 10 out of 22 >+2 posts from him?
Counting the article itself as 1, that's -half- of the displayed posts, which is just silly.
Either the moderators are favoring Bruce's commentary (which is typically useful, informative, and insightful -- though not without context), or Bruce is using his +1 bonus on every post (which is -not- needed on a three-line message, no matter what it contains).
As it is, some of Bruce's replies are without displayed parent posts, and in (at least) one instance he appears to have replied to himself (which means there's at least two <+2 posts which need attention).
Just a random musing...
Kid-proof tablet..
Just one question. What is the purpose of this satellite? Are people with ham radios supposed to be able to brodacast back and forth to it or something? I guess I am just out of the loop on this one.
What's a Sig???
Google, Yahoo, Metacrawler, etc. are all more efficient then asking every time someone else to explain it for you.
ps Also check the links in the article itself.
I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
I think there's at least 50 satellites up there for grabs. Pick your favorite color.
Launching stuff into space is a risky and difficult process. All these problems are why NASA used to build triply-redundant probes (Mariners, Voyagers, etc) and then send two or three of them.
Anyone who's ever programmed on a REAL production system will attest to the fact that it's the last few obscure bugs that are the most difficult to find. The difference between a 99.99% bug-free product and a 100% bug free one is enormous.
The rad-hard CPU of choice for spaceborne equipment is the 1802. Remember the RCA COSMAC personal computer of long ago? I think they have this in silicon-on-sapphire. There are a small number of satellite hackers who still practice 1802 assembler at this late date. It should suffice to say that nobody uses this CPU for anything else any longer. So, an experiment with a modern CPU was very desirable. It looks like the problem might not be in the CPU.
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I can actually answer some of this. I used to work at JPL on spacecraft computers, back when I was a EE student. I did stuff like writing bootstrap code in assembler that was particular to the custom chips that comprised the computer. I also designed PCBs for the test platform.
Space is a brutal environment. Even out in the deep black between the outer planets, there are a lot of gamma rays and charged particles that would play hell with a conventional computer. Spacecraft computers are built of relatively old-fashioned components, and they are made with a special radiation hardening process. There are no 1GHz CPUs in space. We don't really need them, either; the tasks performed by robotic spacecraft are pretty simple, compared to say running Windows.
Shielding isn't the answer. Imagine a metal box around a computer. Now imagine a proton or some other relatively heavy charged particle is fired into the metal. The particle can hit an atomic nucleus and shatter it, flinging MORE particles into the hapless computer. Bad news. And shielding thick enough to protect against this is heavy, and that's bad for spacecraft too.
So they use simple, rugged components, that can usually resist a proton zipping through them. And for the times when a bit gets flipped by a particle -- this is called a Single Event Upset or SEU -- there is a TON of error correction & detection bits allocated in these computers. The system I worked on, which is the computer in the Cassini craft, used a modified Hamming code. I think that almost 1/2 the bits in every 16-bit word were allocated to EDAC.
Unfortunately I do not remember the details of how you fab a chip to be radiation resistant. Some special substrate, special transistors... I'm sure you can Google for it.
But yes, this is a large number of initial failures for a ham satellite. Most of them are much simpler. But all of them have things break and they patch around it and go on using the bird. The same is true for commercial communications satellites.
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RIAA and M$ have stated, "We can not allow hacker ham radio operators to steal our intellectual property." They will allow AMSAT Corp access again for 26 Million Dollars for a 1 year license fee.
They also want to inspect the satellite HD contents because the Napster server says they have a MP3 of Rocket man and a AVI video of the Moon Launch on the HD
In a related story the FBI has raided the ARRL ham radio HQ looking for antennas and radios that could be used to listen to frequencies, they also confiscated secret PSK31 transmitters that could be used by spies to send signals to spy agencies.
Also discovered was a secret world wide system to track people, cars, boats and planes without the knowledge of the passengers. The secret program, called APRS, violates USC 3, 21 and Janet Reno indicated today that all licensed ham radio operators will be investigated. You may remember that the Branch Davidians used ham radio during the seige at Waco.
Will the last company to abandon Linux please turn off the lights??!
actually, read the article and check the link out. the satellite was built by amsat and launched on an ESA rocket. nothing to do with NASA. wake up.
It is common for subsystems to fail on satellites. That is why they usually have redundant systems for critical functions. On scientific satellites, there may be many experiment packages on the satellite. You normally don't hear about one of them failing, unless you have an interest in that experiment and read the status reports.
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We did have some good news for hams this week - the space station ham rig is running great, and Germany just lowered the Morse Code requirement to an easy 5 words-per-minute like the U.S. Now, we just have to get rid of that code requirement entirely.
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Oh, I suppose you can classify that 1962 Tuna Tin radio as a handheld, too :-) No doubt there is military stuff from the Korean war era, as well.
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If you want to talk with an AMSAT developer directly, try Bdale Garbee bdale@debian.org . He did the GPS experiment and possibly some other stuff, and was part of the pre-launch prep team in Ghana.
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