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Cooling Hardware With Microfans

Jeriten writes "NewsScientist puplished this story about how your chips could be cooled down without that huge and noisy fan. Answer is multiple fans sized smaller than head of a pin and growed directly to a surface of a chips." Now if they could just make hard drives silent, we finally could hear ourselves think in a room with 3-4 computers. I tell ya, the noise generated by a few PCs doesn't seem like much until you turn off the tunes.

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  1. Why not collect that heat? by brink · · Score: 3
    While this is an interesting and neat idea, what I want to know is how about a device which reclaims that heat and converts it back into electricity? I'm not sure how that'd be implemented, but it seems an awful waste that we let all that heat energy be expelled when conceivably it could be recycled.

    A related idea would be to make some sort of heat exchanger that'd simultaneously cool the cpu and warm your room. With lots of machines, that could save a lot in heating costs.

    I don't know, just an idea. Anyone know if something like this has ever been done before?

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    1. Re:Why not collect that heat? by bmongar · · Score: 4

      The laws of thermodynamics do not prevent the useful collection of waste heat. What they prevent is achieving 100% efficiency by doing so because your collection and transformation system will loose some heat, not create necessarily create heat

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  2. Re:OK, by mrfiddlehead · · Score: 3

    To be blunt, yes. Silencing of cars, trucks, buses would go a long way to increasing general mental health in the cities. I recall reading about a muffler for diesel trucks that used a computer to analyse the noise coming down the exhaust and creating an interference pattern to muffle the sound. Whenever I go to the country it's not the silence that I notice, but the goddamn noise when I finally force myself to return to civilisation. We are doomed.

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  3. Good idea by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: 3

    This definitely sounds like a good idea.

    /me looks around the room and counts.

    Okay, i have some 6 computers sorrounding me in this real small room. I live in Australia. The Temperature outside is over 40C. (110F). Its hot.

    Luckily, we have the A/C on, so its real cool in here. But the computers make FAR too much noise with all the darn fans.

    I'm not even going to begin counting how many fans my main workstation (Dual PIII-500 512mb ram) has. Well. Okay. Cpu fans, 2. Case fans (extra added by me), power supply fans, and even fans on my CD-R.

    And thats not my only Dual CPU box ...

    Computers definitely have a problem with heat, and shoving ever more fans into cases is not the solution. New tech such as this, is.

    When the power goes out, its almost surprising at the silence around you ... only then you realise just how noisy the room was with all the fans.

    D.

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  4. Apple anyone? by QuantumG · · Score: 3

    Common, bitchin' about fans in computers is so 1984. Just get too carried away with this whole fanless silence thing and you end up with a computer that looks like a water cooler.

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  5. Noise Good by BrK · · Score: 3

    Now if they could just make hard drives silent, we finally could hear ourselves think in a room with 3-4 computers

    Fan noise does have an upside, though. In my home office I find that the noise from my SparcUltra10, 2 Regular PC's, Rackmount PC, and 3 laptops drowns out the noise of my wife :)

    If the room were silent, I would probably have to respond to her calls to come down and take out the trash or something.

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  6. In other news... by Amigori · · Score: 3
    Today in London, researchers have successfully grown a pig that can fly. Dr. Smith and his team of farmers and genetic engineers combined the growth pattern of microfans with the pigs skin and hooves. "We were just trying to create a 'Cool' pig," Dr. Smith noted. "Our team didn't think the fans were powerful enough to lift the pig off the ground."

    University of Colorado researchers state they never had the intention of using these micro fans outside of the computer world. Apparently, they underestimated the creative will of some insane scientists.

    Protestors outside the research facility held up signs saying, "It's the end of the world! Pigs are flying!"

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    Seriously though, I think they are "cool" and can't wait until I can buy a chip with them on it. Hopefully, they will sell sheets of these fans to the consumer market. Plus, these could have great influency on small computer designs in which the heat could be dissapated more quickly and efficiently.

    Amigori

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  7. Re:Problem: Processors are too hot. by Marcus+Aanerud · · Score: 5

    The G4 rivals the Pentium in power consumption? Not really. According to Motorola's fact sheets on the PowerPC 7400, it uses an average of 5 watts of power at 400mhz, 11.5 watts max. The PowerPC 7450 (the new version of the G4 used in the 533, 667 and 733mhz models with embedded L2 cache and slightly lower core voltage) uses 14-17 watts of power at 533mhz. The Pentium III, on the other hand, uses anywhere from 30 watts of power to 50 watts for the super-overclocked 1.13ghz recall units. I wasn't able to find any stats on Intel's website or in their datasheets (too much marketing), so that number might not be completely accurate, but I am sure it's much higher than the PowerPC 75xx processor line.

    Apple encased the whole G4 processor card in plastic to dampen fan noise? Not really. There IS no processor fan on the new G4 models. There's a huge honkin' heat sink on it (which sits next to the power supply and an external vent when the door's closed), but there is no direct cooling on the processor. So, no, I don't think you've seen a picture of the latest G4. If you had, you wouldn't've claimed they encased the processor in plastic. Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of cooling? Heat can't escape through plastic as easily as it can through air. :)

    The hard drive in the latest iMacs don't make that much heat, actually. Apple uses three kinds of hard drives in their latest lines: Maxtor, Seagate, and Quantum. They all run rather cool, with the Quantum being the hottest of them all (this is all subjective, and I haven't scientifically measured this stuff). The Seagate drives are definitely the quietest, though. :) The processor is one component that stays really cool. The heat sink for the processor happens to be the entire metal shield between the logic board and the Analog/Video/Power board. This shield has lots of holes in it that air goes through. It's quite an interesting and practical design. The monitor makes most of the heat, but since the tube is several inches away from the bottom of the iMac, there's plenty of room for heat to move up away from the components, sucking lots of cool air over the expensive stuff (logic board, hard drive, etc...) on the bottom of the computer. I admit it's not the coolest design, but considering what it is, it works really well.

    The micro fans might be nice on paper, but how long do readers think it'll take for MAJOR chip vendors to implement them? The heatsink/fan combo has been with us for as long as I can remember, and considering how cheap and easy it is, I don't see it changing that much very soon. We need cooler processors, not better fans/heatsinks.

    Path of least resistance, I guess.

    Here's a Pentium III Datasheet. If anyone can find the wattage for the P3 in this marketing mess, I'd appreciate knowing it: http://www.intel.com/design/pentiumiii/datashts/24 526407.pdf

    Here's a PowerPC 7400 Datasheet: http://e-www.motorola.com/brdata/PDFDB/MICROPROCES SORS/32_BIT/POWERPC/MPC7XX/MPC7400FACT.pdf

    And here's a PowerPC 7450 datasheet: http://e-www.motorola.com/collateral/MPC7450FSR0.p df