So, let's say someone doesn't have any real programming experience besides college level stuff from a few years ago, but understands programming concepts and was enthusiastic with the possibility of dabbling in iPhone programming because it's a "brave new frontier" and is a rather small, hopefully less complex environment than, say, Mac OS X.
What programming language are the current third party iPhone apps written in? How would one get started now to prepare for the SDK? Any suggestions on books to read to brush up on the languages?
The Linux version only sold in the premium metal tin box, for US$50. The Windows version sold in the cardboard box for US$30. Again, which route are you most likely to take?
Just a side note, but I've found the Linux version in a lot of stores for $10. EBX at Old Orchid Mall in Skokie, IL has a copy in stock, and has had it for the last year and a half. It's in the metal box. I bought a copy from another EBX elsewhere and used its registration number successfully on the OS X version of Quake 3.
Yes, I know it doesn't help much now, but it's ironic to see the Linux version selling for half that of the Windows version, in the nice box, and with a sticker on the front that says where to download the Windows binary.
In that light, i must say i've yet to see someone bitch "Jesus, how many different types of cars do we need?"
I say that every day I ride my bike home from work and almost get hit by some asshole driving a car from a manufacturer I've never heard of who designs an SUV no one can see out of.
The G4 rivals the Pentium in power consumption? Not really. According to Motorola's fact sheets on the PowerPC 7400, it uses an average of 5 watts of power at 400mhz, 11.5 watts max. The PowerPC 7450 (the new version of the G4 used in the 533, 667 and 733mhz models with embedded L2 cache and slightly lower core voltage) uses 14-17 watts of power at 533mhz. The Pentium III, on the other hand, uses anywhere from 30 watts of power to 50 watts for the super-overclocked 1.13ghz recall units. I wasn't able to find any stats on Intel's website or in their datasheets (too much marketing), so that number might not be completely accurate, but I am sure it's much higher than the PowerPC 75xx processor line.
Apple encased the whole G4 processor card in plastic to dampen fan noise? Not really. There IS no processor fan on the new G4 models. There's a huge honkin' heat sink on it (which sits next to the power supply and an external vent when the door's closed), but there is no direct cooling on the processor. So, no, I don't think you've seen a picture of the latest G4. If you had, you wouldn't've claimed they encased the processor in plastic. Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of cooling? Heat can't escape through plastic as easily as it can through air.:)
The hard drive in the latest iMacs don't make that much heat, actually. Apple uses three kinds of hard drives in their latest lines: Maxtor, Seagate, and Quantum. They all run rather cool, with the Quantum being the hottest of them all (this is all subjective, and I haven't scientifically measured this stuff). The Seagate drives are definitely the quietest, though.:) The processor is one component that stays really cool. The heat sink for the processor happens to be the entire metal shield between the logic board and the Analog/Video/Power board. This shield has lots of holes in it that air goes through. It's quite an interesting and practical design. The monitor makes most of the heat, but since the tube is several inches away from the bottom of the iMac, there's plenty of room for heat to move up away from the components, sucking lots of cool air over the expensive stuff (logic board, hard drive, etc...) on the bottom of the computer. I admit it's not the coolest design, but considering what it is, it works really well.
The micro fans might be nice on paper, but how long do readers think it'll take for MAJOR chip vendors to implement them? The heatsink/fan combo has been with us for as long as I can remember, and considering how cheap and easy it is, I don't see it changing that much very soon. We need cooler processors, not better fans/heatsinks.
I think you could probably whip together a pretty phat screen saver using multiple computers on a LAN... something that runs from screen to screen on a network... or a polygon-rendered landscape that is continuous across all the screens, like Sega does during game demos on their 8-seat Daytona USA arcade machine.
It's not going to change the world, but you gotta admit, it'd be pretty cool.;)
If Microsoft moves to Canada, import taxes and tariffs would make the prices of Windows skyrocket, and our government would plunge further into debt because Microsoft operating systems seems to be the only operating system they bother using.:p
I think the article is confusing "MB" and "Mb". Megabytes is what we typically measure our computer storage in. Megabits is what chip vendors measure the individual chips by. 8 Megabits = 1 Megabyte. What's that mean? If the price of a 64Mb chip is $6, you need 16 of those chips to make a 256MB DIMM, and 8 of them to make a 64MB DIMM. That's $96 for the actual RAM chips on a 256MB DIMM, and $48 for the chips that go on a 64MB DIMM. That sounds a lot more realistic.
So, if there's a price hike from $6 to $6.10, the cost of the 256MB module is now $97.60. Up $1.60. Not too big of a deal until you consider markups, profit margins, and hype-stories like the one on c|net. If people see that story, they're bound to believe it, and rest assured, the good resellers are going to be reading articles that concern them (like this one).
And, of course, you need to add to the price of the RAM chips assembly of the actual DIMM, the circuit board that the chips are put on, testing of the board, distribution, further markups in retail, and so on. All together, that maks a 256MB module about $200-$270, depending where you buy.
I followed all the instructions for making a boot disk, backing up my data, starting from the disk, etc etc... I put in the Win2K CD to install, but nothing works! Hmm... I don't think M$ is ready to ship Win2K yet. It's having problems installing on on my Mac.:)
World domination? Bah. Mighty sad, M$. I wonder whose great idea it was to make THAT document?
Slashdot Mirror
So, let's say someone doesn't have any real programming experience besides college level stuff from a few years ago, but understands programming concepts and was enthusiastic with the possibility of dabbling in iPhone programming because it's a "brave new frontier" and is a rather small, hopefully less complex environment than, say, Mac OS X.
What programming language are the current third party iPhone apps written in? How would one get started now to prepare for the SDK? Any suggestions on books to read to brush up on the languages?
What do you think the other iPhones are for?
Roadside assistance?
It's amusing that you didn't attempt to answer the question.
The Hammer says "Stop! Grammar time!" :)
Would that be FreeBSOD, then?
Anyone have a mirror of the story's link? The server's been slashdotte..... no, wait.
The Linux version only sold in the premium metal tin box, for US$50. The Windows version sold in the cardboard box for US$30. Again, which route are you most likely to take?
Just a side note, but I've found the Linux version in a lot of stores for $10. EBX at Old Orchid Mall in Skokie, IL has a copy in stock, and has had it for the last year and a half. It's in the metal box. I bought a copy from another EBX elsewhere and used its registration number successfully on the OS X version of Quake 3.
Yes, I know it doesn't help much now, but it's ironic to see the Linux version selling for half that of the Windows version, in the nice box, and with a sticker on the front that says where to download the Windows binary.
In that light, i must say i've yet to see someone bitch "Jesus, how many different types of cars do we need?"
I say that every day I ride my bike home from work and almost get hit by some asshole driving a car from a manufacturer I've never heard of who designs an SUV no one can see out of.
Save the environment: Kill a motorist.
The G4 rivals the Pentium in power consumption? Not really. According to Motorola's fact sheets on the PowerPC 7400, it uses an average of 5 watts of power at 400mhz, 11.5 watts max. The PowerPC 7450 (the new version of the G4 used in the 533, 667 and 733mhz models with embedded L2 cache and slightly lower core voltage) uses 14-17 watts of power at 533mhz. The Pentium III, on the other hand, uses anywhere from 30 watts of power to 50 watts for the super-overclocked 1.13ghz recall units. I wasn't able to find any stats on Intel's website or in their datasheets (too much marketing), so that number might not be completely accurate, but I am sure it's much higher than the PowerPC 75xx processor line.
:)
:) The processor is one component that stays really cool. The heat sink for the processor happens to be the entire metal shield between the logic board and the Analog/Video/Power board. This shield has lots of holes in it that air goes through. It's quite an interesting and practical design. The monitor makes most of the heat, but since the tube is several inches away from the bottom of the iMac, there's plenty of room for heat to move up away from the components, sucking lots of cool air over the expensive stuff (logic board, hard drive, etc...) on the bottom of the computer. I admit it's not the coolest design, but considering what it is, it works really well.
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Apple encased the whole G4 processor card in plastic to dampen fan noise? Not really. There IS no processor fan on the new G4 models. There's a huge honkin' heat sink on it (which sits next to the power supply and an external vent when the door's closed), but there is no direct cooling on the processor. So, no, I don't think you've seen a picture of the latest G4. If you had, you wouldn't've claimed they encased the processor in plastic. Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of cooling? Heat can't escape through plastic as easily as it can through air.
The hard drive in the latest iMacs don't make that much heat, actually. Apple uses three kinds of hard drives in their latest lines: Maxtor, Seagate, and Quantum. They all run rather cool, with the Quantum being the hottest of them all (this is all subjective, and I haven't scientifically measured this stuff). The Seagate drives are definitely the quietest, though.
The micro fans might be nice on paper, but how long do readers think it'll take for MAJOR chip vendors to implement them? The heatsink/fan combo has been with us for as long as I can remember, and considering how cheap and easy it is, I don't see it changing that much very soon. We need cooler processors, not better fans/heatsinks.
Path of least resistance, I guess.
Here's a Pentium III Datasheet. If anyone can find the wattage for the P3 in this marketing mess, I'd appreciate knowing it: http://www.intel.com/design/pentiumiii/datashts/2
Here's a PowerPC 7400 Datasheet: http://e-www.motorola.com/brdata/PDFDB/MICROPROCE
And here's a PowerPC 7450 datasheet: http://e-www.motorola.com/collateral/MPC7450FSR0.
The current uname -a output in Mac OS X is:
:)
Darwin Lucas 1.2 Darwin Kernel Version 1.2: Wed Aug 30 23:32:53 PDT 2000; root:xnu/xnu-103.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
There's no reference to Rhapsody anymore. It's pure Darwin. Now, if you telnet in, you get:
[lucas:~] marcus% telnet 127.0.0.1
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to 127.0.0.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
Darwin/BSD (Lucas) (ttyp2)
login:
... and so on. So, it's all good.
I think you could probably whip together a pretty phat screen saver using multiple computers on a LAN... something that runs from screen to screen on a network... or a polygon-rendered landscape that is continuous across all the screens, like Sega does during game demos on their 8-seat Daytona USA arcade machine.
;)
It's not going to change the world, but you gotta admit, it'd be pretty cool.
There also might be a shortage of people who know how to install DSL.
All we need is this and caffene, and we'll be ready to actually DO something in outer space!
If Microsoft moves to Canada, import taxes and tariffs would make the prices of Windows skyrocket, and our government would plunge further into debt because Microsoft operating systems seems to be the only operating system they bother using. :p
D'oh! Everywhere I said "256MB" should be "128MB." Damn... that's what I deserve for getting up at 9:00 am on a Sunday! :)
I think the article is confusing "MB" and "Mb". Megabytes is what we typically measure our computer storage in. Megabits is what chip vendors measure the individual chips by. 8 Megabits = 1 Megabyte. What's that mean? If the price of a 64Mb chip is $6, you need 16 of those chips to make a 256MB DIMM, and 8 of them to make a 64MB DIMM. That's $96 for the actual RAM chips on a 256MB DIMM, and $48 for the chips that go on a 64MB DIMM. That sounds a lot more realistic.
So, if there's a price hike from $6 to $6.10, the cost of the 256MB module is now $97.60. Up $1.60. Not too big of a deal until you consider markups, profit margins, and hype-stories like the one on c|net. If people see that story, they're bound to believe it, and rest assured, the good resellers are going to be reading articles that concern them (like this one).
And, of course, you need to add to the price of the RAM chips assembly of the actual DIMM, the circuit board that the chips are put on, testing of the board, distribution, further markups in retail, and so on. All together, that maks a 256MB module about $200-$270, depending where you buy.
Simple... I'd give the AOL account to my sister for her iBook and keep the Linux box for myself. :)
I followed all the instructions for making a boot disk, backing up my data, starting from the disk, etc etc... I put in the Win2K CD to install, but nothing works! Hmm... I don't think M$ is ready to ship Win2K yet. It's having problems installing on on my Mac. :)
World domination? Bah. Mighty sad, M$. I wonder whose great idea it was to make THAT document?