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Hemos
on from the getting-together dept.
_ZorKa_ writes "Yahoo.Com is running an article about the latest partnership of Red Hat and Eazel. The future versions of Red Hat will include Eazel's Nautilus software package. The idea is to use the software as a desktop interface which also automatically updates Linux."
Heading for consolidation
by
mfterman
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· Score: 5
This development is nowhere near surprising. My personal feeling is that we're going to see far fewer Linux companies and distributions in the future, falling into three categories.
The first category will be Linux distributions that form out of the merger or shutting down of all the various commercial vendors. I know, this Red Hat/Eazel thing isn't a merger but I would not be surprised to see it turn into a merger eventually. We're already seeing buyouts and shutdown of rival Linux distributions. I honestly don't know how much room there is in the market for different commercial Linux distributions. I see room for at least two in each regional market more likely three, but probably not much more than three. And if things head in a certain direction, that third could be Microsoft.
The second one will be major hardware vendors going with their own Linux distribution. Vendors that sell specialized hardware or hardware with special functionality might well go with their own optimized version of Linux. A company that sells graphics workstations would quite likely ship a version of Linux with their own optimized drivers and all sorts of performance tuning to squeeze maximum performance out of the hardware. Or a company might decide that licensing costs from one of the above vendor are higher than the cost of doing it in house. Personally, I think it more likely they'll end up doing a customized version of a regular distribution, but some really exotic varients might need more.
The third category will be specialized distributions that are non-profit or serve niche markets. Debian will last until the heat death of the universe and will be the source from which all non-commercial distributions spring. There might also be distributions for ready-made beowulf clusters and so forth. I think more often than not they will be volunteer efforts or a minor division of some company making its fortune in other ways.
The first time will make its money off of support contracts and subscription auto-update features especially for things like security fixes. The second sort of company will be using Linux to sell hardware with minimal software development costs. The third category won't be trying to make money or won't view this as their main source of revenue.
The first category, in terms of investiment in Linux development, will be focusing on ease of installation and deinstallation as well as ease of use. The second category will tend to focus on driver development and hardware support. The third category will focus on either things that aren't viewed as commercially viable or at best niche categories of software.
rpm -Va (validate packages)
PGP signing of packages
better CLI and GUI tools
apt-get dist-upgrade usually hoses my system
Ways Debian is better than RPM:
Kernel building is very easy
apt-get update
Multiple sources for.deb files
apt-get dist-upgrade (when it doesn't host my system)
I'll stick with Debian.
It all comes down to the user
by
OlympicSponsor
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· Score: 4
Red Hat And Eazel To Parntner
RedHat development of a spell-checker: $2000
Eazel development of a spell-checker UI: $1500
A user that actuall checks the spelling of his words: priceless -- MailOne
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Re:To focused towards Red Hat?
by
Goronguer
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· Score: 4
They seem to be aggressively postioning themselves as the 'only' Linux distro to be worthy of consideration by companies.
What's wrong with them aggressively marketing their product? What would you rather have them do? Print a disclaimer on the front of the box, reading, "We think our distro is o.k., but other distros may be just as good or better."???
They are, after all, trying to make money, and that is a Good Thing.
I'm all for everyone, from Red Hat to Debian to tomsrtbt, each marketing their distro as aggressively as possible. More aggressive marketing = more people getting into Linux = more fun for all of us.
This is a smart move all around: think synergy and value. Red Hat has been losing mindshare as of late, especially with the disaster that was Red Hat Linux 7.0. Eazel is on the verge of delivering something very cool that's going to make Linux far more friendly to the end user. Eazel are people that truly "get it."
Everyone gets something out of this deal. Red Hat gets a much more usable end user OS. Eazel gets to deliver real product to real customers (read: revenue stream). Linux users win because the entire OS moves forward, more users come on board, the network effect kicks in, etc.
The whole is truly greater than the sum of its parts in this deal. Good luck to all involved. --
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This development is nowhere near surprising. My personal feeling is that we're going to see far fewer Linux companies and distributions in the future, falling into three categories.
The first category will be Linux distributions that form out of the merger or shutting down of all the various commercial vendors. I know, this Red Hat/Eazel thing isn't a merger but I would not be surprised to see it turn into a merger eventually. We're already seeing buyouts and shutdown of rival Linux distributions. I honestly don't know how much room there is in the market for different commercial Linux distributions. I see room for at least two in each regional market more likely three, but probably not much more than three. And if things head in a certain direction, that third could be Microsoft.
The second one will be major hardware vendors going with their own Linux distribution. Vendors that sell specialized hardware or hardware with special functionality might well go with their own optimized version of Linux. A company that sells graphics workstations would quite likely ship a version of Linux with their own optimized drivers and all sorts of performance tuning to squeeze maximum performance out of the hardware. Or a company might decide that licensing costs from one of the above vendor are higher than the cost of doing it in house. Personally, I think it more likely they'll end up doing a customized version of a regular distribution, but some really exotic varients might need more.
The third category will be specialized distributions that are non-profit or serve niche markets. Debian will last until the heat death of the universe and will be the source from which all non-commercial distributions spring. There might also be distributions for ready-made beowulf clusters and so forth. I think more often than not they will be volunteer efforts or a minor division of some company making its fortune in other ways.
The first time will make its money off of support contracts and subscription auto-update features especially for things like security fixes. The second sort of company will be using Linux to sell hardware with minimal software development costs. The third category won't be trying to make money or won't view this as their main source of revenue.
The first category, in terms of investiment in Linux development, will be focusing on ease of installation and deinstallation as well as ease of use. The second category will tend to focus on driver development and hardware support. The third category will focus on either things that aren't viewed as commercially viable or at best niche categories of software.
Ways RPM is better than Debian:
.deb files
rpm -Va (validate packages)
PGP signing of packages
better CLI and GUI tools
apt-get dist-upgrade usually hoses my system
Ways Debian is better than RPM:
Kernel building is very easy
apt-get update
Multiple sources for
apt-get dist-upgrade (when it doesn't host my system)
I'll stick with Debian.
Red Hat And Eazel To Parntner
RedHat development of a spell-checker: $2000 Eazel development of a spell-checker UI: $1500 A user that actuall checks the spelling of his words: priceless
--
MailOne
Non-meta-modded "Overrated" mods are killing Slashdot
(Hey Ryan! Here's your proof!)
What's wrong with them aggressively marketing their product? What would you rather have them do? Print a disclaimer on the front of the box, reading, "We think our distro is o.k., but other distros may be just as good or better."???
They are, after all, trying to make money, and that is a Good Thing. I'm all for everyone, from Red Hat to Debian to tomsrtbt, each marketing their distro as aggressively as possible. More aggressive marketing = more people getting into Linux = more fun for all of us.
This is a smart move all around: think synergy and value. Red Hat has been losing mindshare as of late, especially with the disaster that was Red Hat Linux 7.0. Eazel is on the verge of delivering something very cool that's going to make Linux far more friendly to the end user. Eazel are people that truly "get it."
Everyone gets something out of this deal. Red Hat gets a much more usable end user OS. Eazel gets to deliver real product to real customers (read: revenue stream). Linux users win because the entire OS moves forward, more users come on board, the network effect kicks in, etc.
The whole is truly greater than the sum of its parts in this deal. Good luck to all involved.
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