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Nautilus 1.0 Released Unto The World
Revista do Linux writes "The final (1.0) version of Nautilus was released this morning. Binaries are available for RedHat 6.x and 7.x, everyone else should try the source code. This version includes a "preview" of the Eazel Services, which includes, among other things, a virtual disk. Grab your copy at the Eazel homepage." The download page has RPMs for RH 6.1/2, and 7. They've also got source that you can download as well If you want to check it out before downloading the demo page is pretty cool - but it looks like the server might be a wee bit overtaxed.
If you need Mozilla 0.8 packages you can find them at: http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/software/
I got the same conflict. After installing 0.8 the installer at least started to download...
Can anyone tell me why you can't actually manage files with a file manager? For example, at work I need to compare two large directory structures to see which files are different between the two. Or which directories have recently updated files. Short of a bash script or a diff on two different ls commands (all commandline things) I can't do it. In other words, I can't manage files with a file manager!
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I say this over and over, but when we're playing Freshmeat, could we at least get a single line explaining what the software does?
Really, folks, I'm not trolling. I just don't have the time to stay up on this stuff, and it would help immensely if I knew what it was. I know, some kharma whore is going to come on after me and reply with a ten line description, complete with the author's birthdate, but all we really need is a single quick line in the news headline.
If it's not a distro, it needs an explanation. (And even some distros need a note!!)
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As cold and "elitist" as this sounds, I don't think slashdot should have to explain this stuff.
The issue that arises is "where do you draw the line?". Should slashdot post an explanation everytime the Gimp is mentioned? Or Gnome/KDE? I would hope that the average slashdot reader already knows what Nautilus is -- and if he/she doesn't, that they take the time to figure it out on their own.
Personally, if Slashdot explained what Nautilus is I'd feel turned off. Seeing "Nautilus, the next-generation desktop shell for the Gnome environment" has a real ZDnet feel to it (ever notice how so many Linux articles from other sources give the 1 paragraph explanation about Linux and how Linus Torvalds started it in 1992 blah blah blah). It's not like this is the first article on Nautilus at slashdot. You have no excuse for not taking 5 seconds to research, sorry.
Perhaps a better solution is for Slashdot to automatically append one of those Everything2 links to these words. This way it doesn't insult regulars with the ZDnet feel to it, and it makes explanations simple for others.
I never understood how people can comment on something before even trying it. The pre-releases from a couple days ago aren't as good as what is available now.
The installer works like a charm for RH6/7 users, so that should cover many folks. Source is available for everyone else, with packages showing up over the next few days.
Eazel services are damn nice.
The browser integration works well, though it will make some folks cringe in parts (right clicking on links does nothing for me).
Throughout the whole program are nice touches that are well thought out; side panel tabs, icon stretching, text-in-icon, multiple data-specific views, ...
Is it 'too simple'? YES! Is that a bad thing? Gripe gripe gripe...but can you code? Do you have alternate tools? If so, what's so satisfying about complaining?
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Yep, I do; it seems to be the fashion in the last few years to include all sorts of functionality in every application (modular design isn't an option anymore). I always thought that the one big advantage of a multitasking operating system was that you could run a few applications, and 'mix' the output of those applications. I like to use a drawing program for drawing, and paste the result in my wordprocessor; I don't have a need for drawing capabilities in my wordprocessor. And that's just *one* example!
- Eazel Software Catalog. Hmm, looks like apt-get with a nice front end to me. Basically they want to create the Debian-style repository, but for RPM. By concentrating on RPM based distributions (RedHat) from the start Eazel might have discovered a problem: "automatic software upgrades". However a solution already existed in Linux space, Debian!
- Eazel Online Storage: been there, done that. Unless Eazel can provide high speed access to my data 24 hours a day it's not interesting at all. Personal experience with other such (free) services have been disappointing so far. And storage space becomes cheaper and broadband more pervasive peer-to-peer communication will become that more interesting for (Linux) consumers. I.e. talk directly to your home computer from anywhere! Instead of through Eazel. That said, uploading/downloading is quite fast. Let's hope it stays that way once all gnomes store their MP3's^H^H^H^H^H family pictures on Eazel.
Interesting to see how they're planning on making cash.Much of Nautilus will probably need to be rewritten once GNOME 2.0 comes out. As it is now, Nautilus is THE SLOWEST GNOME/Linux applications I've used ever. I do like my anti-alisased fonts hardware accellerated with RENDER, thank you very much! (yeah, already spoiled
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The limit with this feature is that you can't just gather files from several directories views so each time you want to add a new file to your selection you have to paste all the previous somewhere and just copy paste the new with them.
I remember a NeXTstep feature which was the handful : The first time you selected more than one file in a view, you then had an icon showing a hand which appeared. You could preserve this icon by putting it on the filer window shelf. Once there, you could use as a temporary directory and drag subsequently chosen files so that at the end you could copy/move/delete, etc. all the selected files at once.
I'd like to see this feature in modern filers.
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When I try to install it, it just craps out with
* Conflict between mozilla vM18 (required by nautilus-suggest v1.0) and mozilla v0.8
* Conflict between mozilla-mail v0.8 (required by nautilus-suggest v1.0) and mozilla vM18
I don't have mozilla M18 installed on my system
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I'm posting this using Nautilus 1.0 right now and I have to say that I'm very impressed. I knew that it would have nice eye candy and such but I'm really supprised at how fast it is. I do have a fairly fast machine (600MHz Athlon, 256M RAM) but I still figured that Nautilus would be slugish but I'm happily corrected. It's only been a few minutes of use but I think that I will use this thing all the time. Now if eazel could figure out how to make $ from it...
I tried a couple of the pre-releases and it was utterly gorgeous, but hellishly slow (as everyone seemed to agree). Can anyone confirm that the final release is faster than the previews, otherwise it makes nice screen-candy, but not really a usable environment?
Also (the website appears to be slashdotted) can anyone tell me whether it still needs Mozilla 0.7 to install - there's no way I'm going to downgrade, especially with 0.81 due out in a few days?
- Put yourself in intermediate or advanced mode, and go to your preferences. In there, you can disable some items in the "speed tradeoffs" category.
- Also in the preferences, under "Appearance", you can unclick the "Use smoother (but slower) graphics". That will speed up most graphical operations.
- You can try going to the Edit menu, and choose icon captions. Try telling it that you don't want any info
There may be more ways to improve speed, but these are the ones that I know of. I'm pretty sure that the final Nautilus uses MozillaGood luck.
The download pages for Redhat 6.x and Redhat 7 currently link to PR3 RPMs. I'm sure this will change soon. But until then, use the Redhat 6.x Installer or the Redhat 7 Installer. Or you can grab hourly builds.
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It's a file manager! Oh, wait....
Someone care to explain to me what is so pant wetingly good about a file manager? Hasn't Gnome and KDE both had file managers since the day they started?
As someone else has already pointed out, why can't you manage your files with a file manager any more? They run around adding all these fancy options (Oh look, skins. YAWN) and trying to turn file managers into web browsers. Why? I want to manage files, not browse the web. My web browser does that.
Doesn't anyone else feel it's time for a back to basics aproach with computers? There are so many layers and stupid features in products today that computers are just slower and harder to use then they were only five years ago. Less eye-candy, more functionality, please.
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Here is some basic info
http://www.eazel.com/press/release_00_12_18
Intresting to note that Sun will include it with Solaris.
hmm... for fun I enjoy launching DDoS attacks against 127.87.42.5
Hi,
Nautilus is a all-in-one explorer (files, web, etc.).
It requires Gnome 1.2.
The closest linux alternative is Konqueror which requires at least kde 2.0.
Go to Eazel's web site for some screenshots.
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