Not really, since I'm still using Ubuntu on other laptop (and in Parallelson OSX for testing) and will always be using it as the main server deployment platform. There's simply nothing better than apt + Ubuntu! I was just in the market for a new laptop and the Macbook Pro has been nothing but phenomenal. The Xorg guys should catch up to the Quartz graphics in a couple of months and hopefully GNOME/etc will start incorporating the new GL based capabilities creatively and productively.. cuz the OSX desktop experience is the one to beat!!
Having animations and other silly stuff (like _pauses_ before actions)just adds latency, and wastes CPU.
What? I think you haven't tried the xcompmgr style setup at all, or else you wouldn't be making this IMHO very un-informed rant! How can offloading the compositing to hardware that actually has specialized circuitry to deal with is be a waste of CPU??? In my experience it actually save gobs of CPU for the simple fact that expose events are reduced to a fraction of what they currently are!! No excessive redrawing of window content if you unobscure them. I bet the CPU will almost idle when you're moving windows around (resizing is something else). The silly effects you see are just crowd pleasers, the important part is the architecture, which will improve even more (e.g. no need for a mother XServer).
A low latency theme is of course perfectly possible, if there is a need for such a thing, we'll just have to wait and see.
I looked for a PSP for over a month since the Sept 1 launch. Huuge billboards advertising the PSP, but every store is out! (finally found one only to return it for a full refund with 3 dead/lazy pixels and Wipeout pure producing garbled graphics after a couple of minutes play)
I would say those 5 pages of tutorial are time well spend! By the time you're ready to access a database through PHP you will have won back the up-front Rails time a hundred fold:-)
The only thing PHP has going for it IMHO is the massive amount of cut 'n paste sources that are out there. Other than that, it sucks really hard when comparing it to RoR!
-adnans (who earns his living by doing PHP/Java and hopefully soon RoR)
Searching the same keywords in both Google and MSN search turns up almost exactly the same results in the same order, and seeing that Google was here first...
I think Microsoft just took a subscription on the Google WebService API:)
or
"How many NT admins does it take to keep up MSN search? 100.000"
The most interesting thing about this release is that it seems to support player scripting! This is quite interesting when developing web based presentations.. Good stuff Real!!
Just download Sun's JDK or JRE and install. The distribution also comes with plugins for Mozilla/Firefox. Works like a charm.. unless of course you're a Debian purist who only wants.debs on his/here system, in which case you have bigger problems:-)
I followed the live webcast and I would have to disagree with Lawrence Lessig on his point. His premise that Java is not being adopted by the Linux community because it's not OSS is not based on any figures and was one of the weakest stances in the debate (together with the Sun guy arguing against Open Source Java because it would make the VM not as stable as it is now). However, when I look around I see Linux and Java together everywhere! I personally use Java daily in the form of Tomcat and Eclipse. Actually, our company is deploying Java on Linux at all our customers. Most of the development team is also standardizing on Eclipse.
So at least from where I'm standing at Linux and Java are quite happy together and being very productive too...
As for releasing Java under OSS, I'm all for it. I only have to look at the Apache Jakarta community for an excellent example of how (Java) technology thrives under OSS
The two projects you mentioned are actually toys. They are nowhere near the magnitude of what Looking Glass offers, namely an infrastructure for building 3D desktop enviroments. The 3D window manager is not the important parts, it's the actual technology that enables it;
What most folks seem to overlook is that this Looking Glass is actually built on top of Keith Packards Composite and Damage X extensions. Coupled with something like Cairo you actually have a pretty kick-ass infrastructure which is able to compete with the big boys.
It looks like a "pretty" big waste of time and screen real estate. The last screenshot labelled "organize" is pretty damn ugly. It reminds me of CDE turned on its side.
Here's your chance to improve upon it! Go forth and code!
I have a feeling that this project will do neither.
While we're at it, why are we wasting our time with this "free" Linux kernel.
Because it actually makes sense (not that coding Linux is wasting time)? We've been developing Linux for almost 13 years now. It's mature! It works! It rocks! I dare you, find a group of skilled engineers who will work for free on OpenGL/3D Linux hardware drivers. Hint: the biggest concentration are probably working at TungstenGraphics and I don't think they work for free either.
The Linux drivers NVIDIA released are actually newer than the Windows 2000/XP ones! I call that pretty darn good support!
I'm all for Open Source, but there are probably far too few 3D/OpenGL engineers who have the time to work on and release quality Open Source 3D/OpenGL drivers. NVIDIA has practically their whole driver engineering team working for us. I consider the closed part just an extended piece of 'firmware' for the (closed source) video hardware. The 'loader' and glue code are open source.
It would take a couple of man years to produce quality drivers that even come close to what we have now, and by that time the current crop of 3D hardware cards will be thrice obsoleted (hi Matrox!)
Better to spend our resources improving other things (like GNOME, D-BUS, whatnot) than to duplicate driver magic, just for the sake of being open source.
Now, if you're a PowerPC user, I take everything I said back *grin*
But if it runs well on an ancient PC, it will also run well on other slow platforms, like a PDA.
The average PDA of tomorrow will have maybe 10x the power of a 486. You don't see gaming companies targetting their new cool stuff at yesterdays hardware no?:)
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No suprises here, I mean, you were the guy who decided CORBA was a good thing for GNOME right? :)
-adnans
You want tabs? Try iTerm. Horrible name, but it works quite well!
-andy
Not really, since I'm still using Ubuntu on other laptop (and in Parallelson OSX for testing) and will always be using it as the main server deployment platform. There's simply nothing better than apt + Ubuntu! I was just in the market for a new laptop and the Macbook Pro has been nothing but phenomenal. The Xorg guys should catch up to the Quartz graphics in a couple of months and hopefully GNOME/etc will start incorporating the new GL based capabilities creatively and productively.. cuz the OSX desktop experience is the one to beat!!
-adnans
Having animations and other silly stuff (like _pauses_ before actions)just adds latency, and wastes CPU.
What? I think you haven't tried the xcompmgr style setup at all, or else you wouldn't be making this IMHO very un-informed rant! How can offloading the compositing to hardware that actually has specialized circuitry to deal with is be a waste of CPU??? In my experience it actually save gobs of CPU for the simple fact that expose events are reduced to a fraction of what they currently are!! No excessive redrawing of window content if you unobscure them. I bet the CPU will almost idle when you're moving windows around (resizing is something else). The silly effects you see are just crowd pleasers, the important part is the architecture, which will improve even more (e.g. no need for a mother XServer).
A low latency theme is of course perfectly possible, if there is a need for such a thing, we'll just have to wait and see.
-adnans
Open sores worse with flies??!!!
I looked for a PSP for over a month since the Sept 1 launch. Huuge billboards advertising the PSP, but every store is out! (finally found one only to return it for a full refund with 3 dead/lazy pixels and Wipeout pure producing garbled graphics after a couple of minutes play)
-adnans
So you choose the Master who made all this evil possible? Excellent choice!
-adnans
I would say those 5 pages of tutorial are time well spend! By the time you're ready to access a database through PHP you will have won back the up-front Rails time a hundred fold :-)
The only thing PHP has going for it IMHO is the massive amount of cut 'n paste sources that are out there. Other than that, it sucks really hard when comparing it to RoR!
-adnans (who earns his living by doing PHP/Java and hopefully soon RoR)
Seconded!
-adnans
They will release a native Linux tax client starting next year! Yay!
-adnans
You have to see ALL of it (well, at least up to season 4) to appreciate the full story arc :)
-adnans
What? No Babylon 5 in the list? But yeah, the new Galactica is excellent!
-adnans
Searching the same keywords in both Google and MSN search turns up almost exactly the same results in the same order, and seeing that Google was here first...
:)
I think Microsoft just took a subscription on the Google WebService API
or
"How many NT admins does it take to keep up MSN search? 100.000"
-adnans
Bye!
The most interesting thing about this release is that it seems to support player scripting! This is quite interesting when developing web based presentations.. Good stuff Real!!
-adnans
Just download Sun's JDK or JRE and install. The distribution also comes with plugins for Mozilla/Firefox. Works like a charm.. unless of course you're a Debian purist who only wants .debs on his/here system, in which case you have bigger problems :-)
-adnans
I followed the live webcast and I would have to disagree with Lawrence Lessig on his point. His premise that Java is not being adopted by the Linux community because it's not OSS is not based on any figures and was one of the weakest stances in the debate (together with the Sun guy arguing against Open Source Java because it would make the VM not as stable as it is now). However, when I look around I see Linux and Java together everywhere! I personally use Java daily in the form of Tomcat and Eclipse. Actually, our company is deploying Java on Linux at all our customers. Most of the development team is also standardizing on Eclipse. So at least from where I'm standing at Linux and Java are quite happy together and being very productive too...
As for releasing Java under OSS, I'm all for it. I only have to look at the Apache Jakarta community for an excellent example of how (Java) technology thrives under OSS
-adnans
The two projects you mentioned are actually toys. They are nowhere near the magnitude of what Looking Glass offers, namely an infrastructure for building 3D desktop enviroments. The 3D window manager is not the important parts, it's the actual technology that enables it;
What most folks seem to overlook is that this Looking Glass is actually built on top of Keith Packards Composite and Damage X extensions. Coupled with something like Cairo you actually have a pretty kick-ass infrastructure which is able to compete with the big boys.
-adnans
It looks like a "pretty" big waste of time and screen real estate. The last screenshot labelled "organize" is pretty damn ugly. It reminds me of CDE turned on its side.
Here's your chance to improve upon it! Go forth and code!
I have a feeling that this project will do neither.
How pessimistic..
-adnans
PearPC emulates a PowerPC computer so Apple has no grounds to litigate.
That's like SCO trying to sue the BOCHS project for emulating an x86 computer just because one could potentially run a copy of their Crapware on it.
-adnans
Linus is looking for funding to make Linux more secure, cuz he and Alan already tackled SMP!
(that makes much more sense no?!)
While we're at it, why are we wasting our time with this "free" Linux kernel.
Because it actually makes sense (not that coding Linux is wasting time)? We've been developing Linux for almost 13 years now. It's mature! It works! It rocks! I dare you, find a group of skilled engineers who will work for free on OpenGL/3D Linux hardware drivers. Hint: the biggest concentration are probably working at TungstenGraphics and I don't think they work for free either.
-adnans
The Linux drivers NVIDIA released are actually newer than the Windows 2000/XP ones! I call that pretty darn good support!
I'm all for Open Source, but there are probably far too few 3D/OpenGL engineers who have the time to work on and release quality Open Source 3D/OpenGL drivers. NVIDIA has practically their whole driver engineering team working for us. I consider the closed part just an extended piece of 'firmware' for the (closed source) video hardware. The 'loader' and glue code are open source.
It would take a couple of man years to produce quality drivers that even come close to what we have now, and by that time the current crop of 3D hardware cards will be thrice obsoleted (hi Matrox!)
Better to spend our resources improving other things (like GNOME, D-BUS, whatnot) than to duplicate driver magic, just for the sake of being open source.
Now, if you're a PowerPC user, I take everything I said back *grin*
-adnans
The report states that this exploit is fixed in Kernel 2.6.0-test6.
-adnans
But if it runs well on an ancient PC, it will also run well on other slow platforms, like a PDA.
:)
The average PDA of tomorrow will have maybe 10x the power of a 486. You don't see gaming companies targetting their new cool stuff at yesterdays hardware no?
-adnans