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Star Wars Most Violent Movie Ever?
alphaparadigm writes: "Is Star Wars: A New Hope the most violent movie ever? What I mean is, does it have the highest body count of any movie ever? They blow up a planet full of people and then a death star full of people! I figured if anyone would know, it would be you guys."
That's a very good point. If violence is measured by number of sentient beings killed, then Star Wars Episode IV is going to be first on the chopping block when the Republicans come to censor our movies. And censor they will. Also there's the one episode of Star Trek: Voyager in which not just planets but entire species are wiped out, but then they crash Voyager into the time ship and the timeline reverts to the way it was so nobody ever really died ... or did they? Anyway these are the films, ladies and gentlemen, the mass-murdering films and TV shows, that John Ashcroft will ban, in conjunction with the Christian Coalition. Anyone standing up for them will be tarred as defending mass murder. Mark my words.
A Body Count only counts when you can Count the Bodies.
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Otherwise, something like The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy would win, because they go forward through time, when everyone is already dead...
Incidentally, some friends of mine tried to count bodies (literally) in Bubblegum Crisis. I think they came up with a number that was over one hundred, which is pretty impressive.
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Then again, which party is pushing for censorship of the internet in libraries.
Oh yeah... The Republicans.
BTW, the V-Chip and TV ratings gave responsibility to the parents to control content within their own homes. I can't see why you would attack this.
"Reagan didn't spend a cent without a Democrat congress voting for it, "
Reagan only had a Democratic congress the last two years. By then the budget was already bloated out of control.
What's also interesting is that every proposed budget by Reagan was actually larger in size than the actual budgets passed by Congress.
As far as Waco. Again, this is more of an example of the Republican form of government as the even happened only a month after Clinton was in office.
Waco was directly the fault of FBI and BATF leaders who had been appointed by the Reagan and Bush administrations.
If it's any consoluation, both Reno and Clinton apologized for the incident, and fixed the problem by firing the Bush appointees and bringing in people such as Freeh to clean up the corruption within the agency.
If it's one thing I hate, it's people who try to distort history for their only mistaken agenda.
No, YOU are a troll!
TROLL!
Jamie McCarthy
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In the Dr Who story "Logopolis", a major part
of the plot is the collapse into entropy
of significant chunks of the universe, so this
is probably the upper limit for body count.
i am a *conservative*, but i don't think that there's any direct correlation between conservative and republican any longer. those days seem to be behind us, but clearly, the stigma lives on.
this entire thread is a great example of journalistic embellishment. there are far too many people who know better than to let what you're discussing happen actually take place, imho of course.
please, try not to inflame the masses to further *your* cause. you're just like them if that's your goal. they inflame the masses with influence, you're inflaming the masses with knowledge. in the end, it's really the same tactic.
Peter
Of the Republican and Democratic parties, which group believes in greater government intervention in your life?
Why the Democrats, of course....unless you are pregnant, homosexual, or of a minority religion. We don't need Christian churches taking over the governments social services, and we all know that "prayer in schools" means "Christian prayer in schools".
There is the Democratic Party, which bears no resemblence to its ancestors of two hundred years ago.
I for one am glad that the Democratic party is no longer the party of southern white slave owners, aren't you?
Which of the two parties has the philosophy of "Small Government"? If you think small government consists of just fewer government employees, then you're fooling yourself. Small Government is not just a policy, it is a philosophy.
Which in the end just means cutting programs they don't like. Thank god massive increases in military spending and forcing our country in to debt doesn't count (Reagen).
Perhaps you would like to tell me just how Right Wing Tipper Gore and Joseph Liberman are?
Whoop dee doo, there are a couple of Democrates who do favor censorship. Doesn't mean that the rest are gung ho for it as well.
Just to jog your memory, Democrats are the the people who believe in a "living" (IE changeable) Constitution.
Your point being what.
If you're hunting for "extremists" who plan to take away your freedoms, you would have done a better job at looking at our former Attourney General, a woman whose values are equally (if not more) extreme than Mr Ashcroft's.
Name some.
Unlike the author of this story, I broker my argument on logic, rather than ignorance and flailing emotionalism.
Sure, and you did a great job....until you got past the subject line and started ranting like everybody else.
Apparently, we'll have to run down the list - AGAIN - of who's trying to censor us...
Lets try Lieberman ("Friends is EVIL and should not be on prime time TV", McCain (he's trying to stop groups like EFF from having a voice in the political world by not allowing them to contribute to politicians who are pro-rights, like Orin Hatch - Republicans can't stand McCain) Al Gore, Mrs Al Gore (CD warning labels), Barbara Boxer, John D. Rockefeller (leaders of the anti-Hollywood movement in Congress along with Lieberman)
hell, Hollywood was warned not to back the Democrats because they are clearly out to censor movies
And if i'm to listen to jamie, it appears that it was then Republican President Bill Clinton that started the most recent act of, essentially, putting a gun (if you'll pardon the expression) to the head of Hollywood?
far be it from me to also bring up who are the ones that want to stop people from exercising their rights to talk about religious matters at every turn - oh yeah.. those darn Republicans...
Instead of just toting the line of HOW the media would like you to think, Jamie, why don't you open your mind and get a clue to who the true anti-1st Amendment legislators are...
guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.
Phooey. So long as it's bad people killing good people and good people killing bad people, and both sides are clearly labeled, conservatives are whooping along with the rest of the audience (okay, I suppose bad people killing bad people is acceptable too).
It's only the combination of violence and moral ambiguity that gets the Right all worked up
Wow do you really believe that crap?
Ronald Reagan regularly confused reality with movies, he fell asleep during an audience with the pope!. The man alhzeimers disease!
War is necrophilia.
this is without a doubt the biggest troll I've ever seen on /. jamie, you are a troll.
mod me to obvlivion if you want, but this is pathetic.
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I've noticed that most of the teens and twenty-somethings associate christianity = conservatism = stealing rights. The funny thing is that it is the exact opposite. First of all, I am sure you all know who James Exon is (D-Neb) :) As far as party ideals go, the Republican party stands for shrinking government regulation while the Democratic party believes in increasing it. Think of issues like gun control, censorship, health care, and taxes. Republicans favor free market decisions, while the Democratic party favors socialist regulation. (Now all the know-it-alls yell "You are calling Democrats Marxists! Burn him!")
Non all Christians believe strongly censhorship. Just like all groups, there are extremists whose views do not represent the whole. Parents of today remember WWI and WWII and haven't forgotten what we fought for. Christians believe that they are responsible as parents for controlling the moral ideas, and empowering their children with making those decisions for themselves. Maybe down south they have another idea of Christianity, but most people I know don't want to push religion-based censhorship onto the government.
Why was this article placed into "Your Rights Online?" Does Star Wars face censorship? There is no link in this article stating that. The quoted portion from alphaparadigm is just interested in body count in a Star Wars movie. How did this get to be a bash on Republicans? I don't recall John Ashcraft commenting about Star Wars or Star Trek (except in reference to the missle defense plan, ofcourse)
Most current congresspeople know nothing of internet, so naturally they fear it and want to regulate it. But nobody has proposed censoring books or movies recently at all. If you all are looking for a party that favors the environment, wants freedom from censorship and regulation, and is totally non-religious, I recommend learning more about the Libertarian party.
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That is just a ruse to get the violent kids theory off guns and onto something else.
Maybe if there's a stalemate about the violent movies Vs gun availablility we can get to actually deciding what in the heck is allowing the violence to propogate in kids.
In all honesty, school violence is lower than it has been in decades, violence in general, in the US has been on the decline since about 1993 and both sides, liberal and conservative, know it.
John Ashcroft is about the LEAST of your worries about civil rights. You might want to take on the book banners, the 'the freedom of speech is for anyone who agrees with MY point of view' types within the liberal community and the 'I don't care what it says about the people, ban inanimate objects' types.
Maybe we can get to allowing parents to -er- parent and not require schools and other government bodies to do so.
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They also make sure that that god-fearing person is fearing the correct god, and at the correct times.
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The next time a kid blows up a planet, killing billions of sentient beings, we'll know just who to blame.
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Any movie in which meat is shown being eaten easily beats any of these movies mentioned. Here we're showing the continued enslavement and decimation of entire species for our pleasure. So the next time they show Lenny stopping at a Hot Dog stand, just think of the thousands of years of slaughter that represents!!
I demand a million helicopters and a DOLLAR!
It's ok, the Republicans won't censor it- George Lucas will just release a new version in which a big gun on the planet of Alderaan fires first at the death star and misses, then the death star fires back in self defense. Then it'll all be ok.
Obi-Wan will say "I felt a disturbance in the force as if a million souls cried out in pain and then vanished- but they had it coming to them just like Greedo did".
Bryguy
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CmdrTaco has just won first class tickets to Alderan. There he will learn the ways of the Grammar Jedi. Much time will be spent under the tutelage of Spelling Won Kenobi, where he will face his darkest fears. Many hours will he spend learning how to discern the essence of good articles from evil ones. He will become the most feared of Grammar Jedi. His very prose will inspire generations to come.
It will come to naught however, when, at his Jedi graduation, the planet gets blown up beneath him.
Except that none of them are libertarians...
That's enough. If you have not noticed, the Democrats are just as guilty of censorship.
Examples:
1) Tipper Gore and the whole music labeling thing,
2) The recent Brown University fiasco,
3) the Anti-Defamation league (granted they have points, but they still get things censored).
The list could go on forever.
I am not a republican (in fact I hate ALL political parties). It just bothers me to see a blanket statement against any group.
So, stick to technology/science/geekdom and leave politics out!!!!!!!!!!!!
In Superman, not only do they accept Homosexuality (Jimmy Olsen), but they also allow for intelligent black people (That computer guy) and also start the whole thing out by blowing up an entire planet filled with good guys. Man of Steel may as well be Man of School Violence. John is going to go nutz.
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