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Paul Allen Buys Old MITS Building

u2mr2os2 writes "Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen has purchased the building where Microsoft had its first office along with MITS (Altair creator). The long term plan for this is to possibly turn it into a computer museum. Sure, it would be MS tilted, but at least it'll give other geeks a reason to come visit Albuquerque (it's not as bad as The Pirates of Silicon Valley portrayed. Story is in the local papers.."

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  1. Paul Allen's tiltedness - get a clue by targo · · Score: 2
    Sure, it would be MS tilted...

    Paul Allen left Microsoft in 1983, that's a long long time ago. Among the reasons were serious disagreements with Bill Gates about the direction of the company.

    Since then he has been mostly playing (not very successfully) with the capital gained by owning Microsoft stock, including investing in companies that are rather anti than pro Microsoft. For example, he is one of the main investors behind Transmeta.

    Microsoft tilted, indeed... But hey, anything goes when we are talking about MS, right?

  2. Re:Albuquerque? by Psmylie · · Score: 2

    It's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. And I did, although it was 20 years ago. It was truely a beautiful area (at least, outside the city limits - The sunsets are unbeleivable). But, when I lived there, jobs were very scarce, homelessness was a HUGE problem, and you had to kick the used needles the druggies left behind out of the way to play in the parks.
    Granted, that WAS 20 years ago, things have probably changed for the better. One can hope, at least.

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  3. "And this is the spot... by Richy_T · · Score: 5
    where Bill Gates invented the Internet. If you look just here, you can see the shoe marks where Al Gore stood over his shoulder offering suggentions."

    Rich

  4. /. paying for links? by Sticky+Toejam · · Score: 3

    OK Hemos, did you actually pay for this link? Be honest!!!

  5. For those interested in m$ history by toast- · · Score: 3

    I have a page with a couple pieces of interesting PC (Including early microsoft) history. Check them out Here

    Granted it's not the New Mexico address, but still very interesting.

    Included is pics of MSDOS 1.1, CP/M X86 1.0 (a tad too late), and a sheet from the Basic manual of an old Z80 based Computer (which came in a woodgrain case, probably about 1977). This Basic manual page was the only reference to Microsoft i could find.

    1. Re:For those interested in m$ history by toast- · · Score: 2

      No, don't waste your time. I don't care about wether it had an X in the name or not =)

      but thanks for the interesting points of view on your experience with CP/M etc.

      I was too young to know the difference at the time.

  6. Re:Are you telling me... by BluedemonX · · Score: 2

    Yeah. But how is Paul Allen going to make that building in Alberquerque or wherever it is look like a pile of multicolored sheet metal bent into the shape of a melted wax candle?

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  7. Re:Paul Allen? by targo · · Score: 2
    Haven't heard about him lately. Is he still with MS?

    He left MS 18 years ago :P Really a good news to associate with MS ;-)

  8. Albuquerque by Glytch · · Score: 2

    >Sure, it would be MS tilted, but at least it'll
    >give other geeks a reason to come visit
    >Albuquerque
    Oh, come on. Who wouldn't want to visit Albuquerque? People there are so friendly, they'll gladly shave your back for a nickel!

  9. Re:There are better uses by sharkey · · Score: 2

    Actually, IIRC the beginning of the twentieth century was known for child labor, sweatshops and the company towns that gave rise to unions.

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  10. Re:Paul Allen is a dickhead. by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2

    You know, it's funny how people bitch about the ANWR as though the Democrats could do no wrong, yet fail to ever mention the National Petroleum Reserve Alaska (NPRA) which had been closed since Harding, but was opened up by Clinton.

    Both major parties suck.

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  11. Re:Paul Allen and DEC nostalgia by Sabalon · · Score: 2

    Not all bad....but one big strike against:

    TICKETMASTER

  12. Re:Yes Albequerque really IS that bad... by Pinball+Wizard · · Score: 2
    A big nothing, if you don't include Sandia Labs, Intel, a bunch of other high-tech companies, 350 days of sunshine, great restaurants, a good music scene, one of the best CS and engineering schools out there, etc. etc.

    Grown a little? Try one of the fastest growing metropolitan areas in the U.S over the last 20 years.

    If the IT scene was just a little more hopping, like the Bay Area or Seattle, this place would be perfect.

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  13. Tilted? by Fervent · · Score: 2
    Sure, it would be MS tilted

    I doubt it. As long as it remains a "museum" and not a corporate "experience" it should stay close to its roots.

    Although, that's not to say MITS had very moral roots to begin with (see Levy's "Hackers").

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  14. But will it be hands on? by hirofx · · Score: 2

    I don't know about the rest of you, but what's the point of having an old-computer museum if we can't play with the technology.

    "Ah yes, the old hands-on-imperative" they'll say, "those were the days!"

    Hey kid, get the heck away from my PDP.

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  15. There are better uses by alewando · · Score: 2

    I realize everyone loves computer museums (and who wouldn't?) but can't we put these old buildings to better uses?

    Homelessness is an important social problem facing our society today. Millions of Americans live without a roof over their heads, and millions more are fleeing abusive relationships or other forms of domestic violence and need a place to stay before they can move on.

    The average 5-floor office building can house more than a hundred people in dormitory-like conditions. Most office buildings are already well connected to utilities like water and electricity, and most already have kitchen facilities. It's a simple matter of tearing out the old boardrooms and putting in optional heat and massage.

    It's important to remember the past, but what if the past wasn't worth remembering? What if the past was filled with obsolete technologies, dust and cobwebs, and the napoleonic powergrabs of technologists? Should we be commemorating that? Or should we move on with our lives and put our heritage to better uses? I submit it's the latter.

    When we look back on the beginning of the twentieth century, should we remember it as a time of corporate conquest? Or should we recognize it as a time when we came together as one global community and solved the social and economic problems that plagued our ancestors?

    Paul Allen is better suited to achieving these goals than the rest of us, because of his large bank account. If he doesn't take steps today, then it's our duty to enact confiscatory tax laws to take his money and put it to better uses. It's the moral thing to do.

    1. Re:There are better uses by PD · · Score: 5

      Oh for chrissake. You're just like those people who say let's not go to the moon because there's people starving on Earth.

      I say, why not turn the static display Saturn V at the Cape into rent controlled housing? Two birds, one rocket. Wait, the rocket is a bird. Make that three birds.

    2. Re:There are better uses by Sticky+Toejam · · Score: 2
      Paul Allen does indeed care about homeless people. A quick search turned up the following:

      HOMELESS USERS BUILDING LICENSE AGREEMENT - PLEASE READ

      By stepping thru the doorway in order to live in and use the Building, You agree that You must obtain one of the following three types of licenses: (1) Non-Commercial Use License, (2) Evaluation for Commercial Use License, or (3) Commercial Use License.

      To qualify for a Non-Commercial Use License, You must: (1) be homeless or 2) be homeless or (3) be homeless.

      The term "Non-Commercial Entity" is limited to the following: homeless people at universities or other educational institutions (such as pre-schools, elementary schools, middle or junior high schools, high schools, and community or junior colleges), non-profit organizations (such as public libraries, charities, and other organizations created for the promotion of social welfare), "Education Affiliated homelessUsers," and individual homeless users who use the Building for personal use (such as connecting to an Internet Service Provider for personal use, hobby, recreational, or educational purposes). The term "Education Affiliated homeless Users" is limited to homeless students, faculty members, researchers, administrators, support staff, and employees of a university or other educational institution. The term "Excluded homeless Contractor" is limited to homeless independent, solo contractors while performing work for a Non-commercial Entity, such as a university or other educational institution in an individual capacity. If You qualify for a Non-Commercial Use License, You may use the Building free of charge.

      If You do not qualify for a Non-Commercial Use License, then You may obtain either an Evaluation for Commercial Use License or a Commercial Use License.

      If You would like to try using the Building before obtaining a Commercial Use License, then You may wish to obtain an Evaluation for Commercial Use License. This will allow You to use the Building for free for a period of up to thirty (30) days ("Free Trial Period"). After expiration of the Free Trial Period, if You want to continue using the Building, then You must purchase a Commercial Use License.

      If You do not qualify for a Non-Commercial Use License or if the Free Trial Period has expired and You want to use or continue using the Building, You must either purchase a Commercial Use License or get the fuck out .

  16. He'll probably turn the building into... by mjfgates · · Score: 3

    ... a seventy-foot-high replica of an Altair, with and stoplights for the panel LEDs.... and it'll all work. Swarms of employees will show up every morning, turn it on, and manually enter a copy of the first version of Microsoft Basic using a backhoe to flip the six-foot-long toggle switches. Then put in "Lunar Lander" or something and run that all day, and then shut it off to go home at night.

  17. Microsoft Museum? by infinite9 · · Score: 2

    Microsoft Museum(tm)? That's impossible! How can you reboot a museum?!

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  18. Early MITS product - calculator ad by ch-chuck · · Score: 2

    I just happend to have run across an ad for a MITS calculator and posted a scan here - from 1972 "Electronics Illustrated" magazine. They were shortly thereafter to come under a lot of pressure from Japanese calculator mfgs (recall that Intel started making microprocessors for a Japanese calculator client) and MITS had to find a new product quick, which turned out to be the Altair personal computer kit.

    A complete shame that Ed Roberts isn't involved in any of these latest events.

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  19. Paul Allen and DEC nostalgia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    I read somewhere that Paul Allen is still into hacking PDP-11s and other DEC oldies but goodies. I belive that MS used PDP-11 hardware to cross-assemble early Microsoft products. I heard that he is still a participant in the crowd that hacks old deck hardware. The guy can't be all bad. Anyway, he's a big baseball fan so that's a plus in my book too.

  20. Re:My biggest concern by Slashdot+Cruiser · · Score: 2

    Why, thank you for asking. In truth, the winner was this guy.

    "Winner" being a relative term, of course.

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  21. Display: by omarius · · Score: 5
    In this case lies one of the original copies of Altair BASIC. It is one of the very first Microsoft products. This is an original, not a copy made by some dirty hippie hacker in a computer club. I'll get you thieving bastards if it's the last thing I do! When I am Emperor, you'll be first up against the wall! Bide your time, filty commie code stealers! AHAHAHAHA!

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    -Omar

  22. Are you telling me... by Mindwarp · · Score: 5

    ...that Microsoft are going to be the sole owners of the ONLY MS Computer Museum in the whole of Albuquerque? Have they learned nothing from the Justice Department experience? This is clearly yet another demonstration of Microsoft's domination of the marketplace!

    ;-)

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  23. My biggest concern by Slashdot+Cruiser · · Score: 2

    Will the building have a parking garage?

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