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William Gibson On Japan

An Anonymous Coward writes: "There's an interesting rant by William Gibson on his fascination with American futurist conception of Japanese culture over at The Observer. Also of note is one readers take on it." This is a little odd, not usual slashdot fare. But I thought it was interesting reading, so maybe you will too.

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  1. Not really the height of ALL technology now is it? by caffeineboy · · Score: 5

    This type of diatribe seems to come from people who have been in love with Japan for years, then go there and see exactly what they were looking for without noting anything that would interfere with their schoolgirl crush on the country.

    Yes, this is the country in which every girl has to have a portable phone, the newest CD single by a shitty boy band (ok, so that's not different), and the newest fashion trend the moment that they are announced in the magazines...

    But this is also the country in which there are no full access ATMs, no Birth control (until last year) and no law against denying somone a promotion because they are a woman... (well, also not until last year)... The contradiction of the techno idolatry and the hedgemonc morality of the society amazes me.

    Granted their fad driven economy is full of high tech gadgetry the likes of which would make any japanophilic geek drool, but the shortsightedness of the culture as a whole scares me... Ever seen how much trash is piled in the woods by their mountain expressways? Or stacks of ten year old cars that were crushed for being too old... (A friend of mine had a 1990 Honda CRX crushed because the road tax would have been too much. He had to pay $200 to get them to take it and it had 60K on the odometer). It seems like the technological climate in Japan is due mostly to high pressure advertising, high pressure to conform, and a lack of visible available alternatives.

    Different, yes,

    But THE future? I hope not.

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  2. Japan's present seems a bit like America's past by Zoop · · Score: 5

    I think Gibson is over-romanticizing what goes on in Japan. Yes, like many Asian cultures, they are very receptive to fads influenced by the "latest thing" and they are something that is very rare in the West nowadays: technophilic.

    I suspect, however, that, in their 140-year leap from virtual feudalism to modernity, not all has progressed at the same rate, and the technological effects on society are playing out in ways that have already shaped Western society.

    It's only been in the past 30 years that Japan has been a truly affluent society. So the concerns of a society that has grown comfortable with widespread wealth are just beginning--there's a feeling, reinforced by the collapse of the Bubble Economy, that without hard work to maintain it, prosperity could vanish as quickly as it arrived. So the Western concerns with social equality, environmental protection, the extremely marginal dangers of new technology haven't set in yet.

    In short, there's still a lot of the 1950's-era Europe and America in Japan. The benefits of technology are still much clearer than their downsides, and a workaholic, traditional culture still lingers. If, in the 50's or even the 20's, America had the same level of technology the Japanese do today there would undoubtedly be Mobil Girls, robot bars, and the like.

    But don't forget the downside to this progress: Japan is not a tranquil, natural place for reflection that NPR and yuppie magazines sell to Americans: it is a chaotic place where almost all buildable land has been built upon and parks are sadly rare but extremely welcome escapes from the unrelieved concrete and cacophony of the city. Women have a distinctly second-class place: female CEO's aren't a rarity, they just don't happen. Cutting off land from business development is similarly rare, and the salaryman still comes to work at 7 or 8 and leaves at 10 to drink with the boss until 1 and expects to do this for one company his entire life.

    So yes, consumer technology is a few minutes into the future, but Japanese society isn't necessarily "ahead", if such a concept even applies. But Western society would be better off for examining the Japanese to see what we've lost: the confidence that technology can still improve your life and is sometimes worth the cost.