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Displaced Techies Find Sex Sells, And Pays
fataugie writes: "Oh yeah, just when you through the economy and Dot.Bombs couldn't suck anymore, we find that the porn business has a place for you. Enjoy!" Not necessarily in front of the cameras, however, but read those contracts carefully.
What a whacky way to run a business. Thank god it'll never catch on!
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So I will, I'm rather glad that I have never been
is a position where I have had to consider this as I don't think that ethicaly I could work in the porn biz. Now I have no real problems with other people selling smut. But I don't think I could do it and be able to live the life that I want. I definitly could not face my friends or my family if I did. And I most certainly could not face my Rabbi. So before everyone here desides that there is no difference between selling porn and selling books think about the ethics of it.
Erlang Developer and podcaster
I wonder why. A lot of places seem to have over exposed (as in too much light) photos because cameras left in matrix meter mode on that much untanned flesh tends to meter wrong. Anyone who has photographed nudes in an art class could do better.
Plus they seldom use the rule of thirds, or set the shutter time to pick up motion.
I could do a better job. Hey, where do I sign up?
I thought am. porn was "normal looking" women, plain or no sets, no airbrush (or photoshop), single flash, flash shadow even. But not poor photography that makes the poor woman's skin look uniformly white. Ugh.
How quickly you forget! You do not remember the awfulness of the foldout (oh yes) cover of Wired 4.06??? BEHOLD! TREMBLE IN HIS PALENESS!!
To tie this in with an earlier thread, who else is really making money now? Marijuana seed sellers. Who's going to be making money tomorrow? The same.
Here we have a culture that has outlawed the most basic of human needs: the need to feel good.
It'd sure be nice if everyone would finally just get over the childhood conditioning their parents inflicted on them (because, hey, their parents inflicted it on them, and their parents before them) and finally come to grips with some basic facts of life.
People is gonna fuck, suck, smoke, toke, and get it on it *whatever* ways thrill them.
As long as it doesn't cause harm to others, or other's property, IT AIN'T NOBODY'S BUSINESS IF YOU DO.
If the collective "we" could just get over that hurdle, imagine how much nicer the world would be...
[Inevitably, the ill-informed dupes of the repressive minority will be sure to follow this post with insufferable statements about how masturbation makes you blind, THC makes you rob people, etc.... These are precisely the people who make this society so senselessly repressive.]
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Sure dupe. Just as soon as *you* get a clue.
My fucking doesn't cause any objective harm to you or your property, unless it's your tender and unwilling ass I'm poking.
My sucking doesn't cause any objective harm to you or your property, unless it's that big ol' lollipop your mama was pacifying you with.
My smoking doesn't cause any objective harm to you or your property, unless I'm puffing my cancer-stick an enclosed airspace shared with your unwilling lungs.
My toking doesn't cause any objective harm to you or your property, unless I was bogarting your last smoke.
You, dear Dwonis, need to do some remedial reading. Please go hustle your pert little ass over to [Peter McWilliams'] website, and read Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do. It'll do you a world o' good.
I'm obliged to point out that Peter McWilliams is now deceased, killed by the repressive minority twats who insisted he choke on barf rather than supress his vomit reflex by smoking weed during his last ailing years.
When you call "War on Drugs," it always affects other people. Gettaclue.
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The journalist's use of "unlikely refuge" really
made me want to just stop reading right there. To anyone who thinks about it for a microsecond, it should plainly be the obvious, MOST LIKELY "refuge". Even the word "refuge" would seem to
imply that it's a temporary situation. This is
more of a Gibraltar, wouldn't you think?
One of the weirdest things about our whole culture
to me is that it's the norm to act embarrased and
surprised about sex, the existance of sex, the fact that people have sex, and above all, SURPRISE! sex sells. To me, it's almost as if
sex would be harder to sell if "we" (society) stopped acting shocked and surprised about porn.
As if, part of the reason it's popular is because
we enable it's mystique by pretending to be innocent, and by pretending that sex is something
that needs to be hidden, restricted only to a certain class of people (e.g., only the marrieds
may participate, and only in the dark even for them), etc.
It just isn't so, but the delusion that it could be, should be, or ever was so, persists as thoroughly as any other cultural idiom in the USA
and much of the world. The very conspicuous absense of any explicit sexual imagery in mainstream media is what creates a market for
erotic material, but that's a topic for another
rant.
Anybody who is genuinely, honestly surprised that
the porn industry thrives, please tell us what cave they've been living in their entire lives.
-fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
>NO. Time to come up with something original. Penis birds have gone the way of the dodo.. or really have gone the way of
> Natalie Portman, Hot Grits, All your * are belong to us, goatse.cx, and *BSD.
Hmmm . . . goatse.cx . . . now I know what happened to www.godhatesfags.com. I guess when the rent is due, some people are willing to compromise their morals faster than others.
It was a step up for the reverend anyhoo, if you ask me!
Geoff
I think I see a trend here. Maybe for them it really would be easier to muzzle the entire internet than to produce p
Jon, huh? Could it possibly be Jon Katz?
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Privately? Sure. Publicly? Not for a while.
The internet gives people more opportunity than ever before to look at porn without anyone else ever knowing. Someone who wouldn't go to a strip club (for fear of someone seeing his car in the parking lot) or buying a porn mag in a gas station (what if the attendant labels him as a pervert? Oh no!) might dig up porn on the internet. There's no need for direct human contact in the transaction. He's just another string of bits in a database.
Many people are more concerned about their image than they really have reason to be, and porn is one of those things that "decent people" don't want to be associated with. And even those people who look at porn on a regular basis frequently argue against porn so they won't be the one to sound like a pervert. It's one of those dirty little secrets that millions of people have, just like recreational drug use. Most people privately have nothing against porn, but damned if they'll admit it.
Besides, the ultra-conservative types will always scream loudly against anything that anyone could find pleasure in.
"That's Tron. He fights for the Users."
Anyway while it wouldn't be my first choice, I can certainly think of worse places to work than the porn industry.
Ender
Nothing to see here
that Tim is only 14 years old.
How we know is more important than what we know.
When you "fuck, suck, smoke, toke, and get it on", it *always* affects other people. Get a clue.
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Poor bastard. If he's got a SO, I'll bet she's pissed.
Jon's SO: "Hi Jonny, glad you came home early today... wanna fool around?"
Jon: "Aaaauuuugh, eight hours a day at work and now I gotta work with you nipples too? Nipples, nipples, nipples, I'm sick and tired of nipples!"
I'll bet he did.
Those who are willing to pay for pr0n over port 80 are unlikely to have even heard of USENET, let alone know how to use it.
It's a self-selecting sample - anyone aware of NNTP would get their pr0n there, rather than paying bahtama for it.
Of course, bahtama may be at risk of getting nuked for copyright infringement, as the magazine that originally owned those images (or the web site where they were originally posted) could open up a can of whoopass on him.
But with a gazillion small-time sites out there, they'd have to find him first. And remember, he said used it to finance his own website, which implies that it was a small enough site to live comfortably under the radar. So odds are extremely good that he'll get away with it.
Indeed, depending on your views on intellectual property, there may be nothing to "get away with" in the moral sense. Only in the "Don't get sued by a pr0n company with more lawyers than you" sense.
Perhaps some commentary from a few people who run porn sites that hang out here, like ninenine.com would clear up a bit of this question I've had.
Also, does anyone have any firsthand experience knowing how many people actually pay for subscriptions to sites like danni.com or anything like that?
He's already on his way! He's only worth a paltry $54 billion now.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Have you ever tried using disney.com's search engine to search for "Live Goat Porn"? You do actually get some hits back. I'll leave the interpretation of the results as an exercise for the student...
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Seriously? Who's really making money now? Porn. Who's going to be making money tomorrow? Porn. Who's got the kind of pageviews and such that advertisers would kill for? Porn. Who's going to have that paycheck for you next year too? Porn. It's pretty logical to me. Just because portions of society (portions which, I might add, aren't often of the same views as those who work in the tech industry) consider porn immoral doesn't mean it's not going to make a buck.
I think it's good news personally. You can read goatse.cx trolls while coding for a goatsex website. What could be better?
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
...that the rights to any sex you have while employed there automatically belong to them?
"The legitimate powers of government extend only to such acts as are injurious to others." Thomas Jefferson.
Is that what porn companies do! I thought they made different web pages open when you closed the one at which you were looking.
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I'm sure it was hard for you, the research that is.
Sorry I had to, but really it can't look good on a resume, the fact that you posted your side of working for a p0rn site shows that most people look down on it. In high school I took TV production, one thing the teacher would say ( out side of class) is that once you were in porn there was no getting out. It could have changed but the story has not note about people that have come out of porn in to the main stream.
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Does anyone actually have a Java program designed to control air traffic, or for the operation of a nuclear facility?
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No kidding. Prostitution is what, one of the 4 oldest proffesions in the world?
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Last August, I was a contract consultant... things were good, then slowly, the market started drying up (everyone was starting to buckle down on new projects).
I figured it was a good time to look for a permanent job. I interviewed with quite a few dot com types, from Boston to SF to Fort Lauderdale, I finally went with a porn hosting company. About 3/4 of the other places I interviewed with are out of business or have had some serious layoffs. The place I work at has actually grown (and is profitable!)
I don't see my family complaining anymore now that I have job security in the sin industry vs working for a conservative type company and getting laid off.
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Well, what did you want? They're used to fucking people over (ba-dum-dum!) Thank you! I'm here all week!
Dog is my co-pilot.
Not necessarily in front of the
cameras, however, but read those contracts carefully.
So would it be worse to be in front of the camera and get laid regularly, or would it be worse to be in the server room all day putting together websites with highly erotic content and never getting any?
I'm not sure if Timothy's comment meant we should be looking for contracts with on-camera time, or if he meant we should beware lest they suck us incredibly virile and physically attractive geeks into the horrid world of *GASP* Adult Entertainment.
Steven
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Well, you are paying for the time spent to weed out the "bad" pictures. There is some value added there.
Trust me. About 6 months ago I interviewed with one of the larger (if not largest) 'net based porn companies for a sys-admin position. Given that porn seems to be the only industry that makes money on the web I was expecting a decent salary offer and a good working environment. Wrong! Porn companies make money on the web because their costs are low; They hire cheap labour, rent cheap offices etc..
If you want to work as a sys-admin for $24k US out of a dingy warehouse in the bad part of town then I've got the industry for you.
Either that, or it's reminded most of them to download their daily dose, or are submitting resumes like mad ("Damn, it's in formatted in Word, with fonts and everything and I have to copy and paste it into a text box!")
Well, here's some free pr0n anyway (.)(.) Send $5 to PO Box 555, Zeeland Michigan, and you get to see it in color!
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and I think Ron Jeremy has a SAG card.
Executives at the area's leading adult entertainment firms report a surge of resumes and telephone inquiries from disillusioned techies
There's a reason for this.....after you work 60-70 hours a week, or more, your girlfriend/wife leaves you for not putting enough time into the relationship...then the company flunks, and guess what: now you're out of money and no girlfriend....and women don't like men w/o money
so the only choice is.....GET PAID TO GET LAID
and hence the porn industry
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It's a fact of life that porn is recession proof. It always has been, it always will be. While consumers' desires for other goods and services may ebb and flow, man's libido will never diminish. It's not news really, just reality.
Well, while I'm not saying that you're not worth what you're getting paid, I will say that a big reason that porn businesses (even on the web) stay profitable is because they generally keep a hard eye on the bottom line. Yeah, there's a lot of money flowing in and out, but you're not going to find a lot of porn people squandering it. While lots of dot-com companies like pets.com, and others blow their money on big salaries, and lots of marketing, porn people generally keep costs down. It's a mature, and very aggressive market that requires costs to be as low as possible.
Actually, nope, I don't think that they do get paid all that well. The big stars do, but not as well as 'traditional' Hollywood stars, and most people aren't big stars. Plus, think about it: How much would YOU have to get paid to go to work every day and fuck beautiful women? I don't know about you, but I'd work for damn near free.
Sex has sold for years, since biblical times. Probably before that, too....
Caveman One: Unf Unga Boog Ooog Looga (Your girlfriend looks very alluring, I will pay you one million boar's teeth for one night with her)
Caveman Two: Onga Bonga Loo Fung Dunga Bunga (I cannot let you do that to the woman I love, However I will sell you rights to draw a figure of her on your wall, surrounded by advertisements and banners, and sell tickets to people to come view that picture
Now there is a conversation starter at the class reunions!
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Oh bother.
The idea of Bill Gates as playgirl centerfold is too disgusting to contemplate.
Looking for an Information Security student project suggestion?
Try http://dotcrimeManifesto.com/
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Head hunters from the porn industry? I wonder if they sound as sleazy as media portrays them. Personally I know porn sites make extreme amounts of money, the problem I think of regarding that market is, there are way too many porn sites out there to even think that "this particular" company is going to make it in the long run.
I wouldn't jump ship unless my options included Alley Bagget on Monday, Jenna Jameson on Tuesday, Racquel Darian on Wednesday, Anna Nicole Smith on Thursday, and Jenna again on Friday.
Not that I watch porn or anything...
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Sex sells. Both ways.
There's never a shortage of consumers of porn, and there will never be a shortage of production-side personnel willing to trade some of their pay rate for a chance to hobnob with the knobjobs.
Security? Sure. That's got to be part of it. But I bet there's an inverse proportion of it in reality vs. what was demonstrated in that article.
Until the cloners genetically engineer our sexual hormones out of existence, this is how it will be.
--Blair
The internet is widespread throughout the US, in spite of the recent economic downturn that has yet to really stop. It seems that with each passing day, porn takes up a larger part of the internet economy. Do you think that this "porn boom" will help change opinions about sex in the US?
"but women are now the majority of US Internet users,"
According to the link, it says that out of all the users on the internet, 33% are brand new (less than a year), and 60% of that are women. 60% * 33% = 20%. Of course, this says nothing about any previous gender ratios, so it could mean anything.
"the average age of net users is up too."
As is, I don't see how that means anything. If five years ago, the average net user was 18, and now the average user is 23, it's still the same people. All it means is that we've aged five years in the past five years.