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Retinal Scanning Displays

Logic Bomb writes "The New York Times has an article covering new advances in the field of display systems that beam images directly onto the retina. An actual useable product has been developed that allows you to see a "projected" image without necessarily interfering with the rest of your vision. It sounds like a great way to watch TV or read news headlines on the bus if you ask me, but the article discusses some more, um, useful applications. )"

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  1. Practical and economical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    I remember seeing a prototype retinal scanning display that Tom Furness and his team had developed at the Virtual Cockpit project for the air force in Dayton. This was almost 10 years ago when he packed up the project and moved it to the University of Washington's Human Interface Technology lab in Seattle. At the time it was bulky but it looked real and ready for refinement. Yet it is still under development and not really here -- not even for the military, who tend to be early adopters of this kind of tech when it's expensive and clunky. So how soon will this *realistically* take to appear in the real world?

    (Anybody remember the IBM commercial where the guy on the park bench is jerking around like some kind of Tourette's sufferer -- until they zoom in and we see he's using a wearable to day trade? It's already getting hard to tell the crazy people from the people who are just using cell phones with headsets. How much worse is it going to get with things like this?)

    1. Re:Practical and economical? by Jade+E.+2 · · Score: 5

      This probably reminds you of the project from UoW's HITL because it *is* the project from UoW's HITL. It'd be nice if Microvision bothered to mention that. Oh well, at least the Dev team's page at UoW mentions that Microvision are the ones developing commercial applications for it. Also has an actual picture of the prototype, which isn't nearly as high-tech as the Microvision site would lead you to believe.

  2. Advertisements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    Once this thing hits the consumer market, how long do you think it'll be before we start living with constant advertising in the corner of our FOV. Ugh...

  3. Re:safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    Actually, you're eye does have three different color receptors. Namely red, green, and blue (actually, cyan, magenta, and yellow, which are the subtractive compliments). That is the reason we use RGB screens. For example, red and green light together trick our eye into perceiving the same color as yellow light, even though the wavelength of yellow light cannot be created through any combination of red and green light (physically). RGB screens are a direct result of the biology of our eyes.

  4. Re:Eyeball tracking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    Gods, I hope they don't do that. Can you imagine the sticky ads possible when they know just where you're looking? It'd get really annoying if the image followed my vision in space instead of staying put. Besides that, the eye actually introduces a continuous jittering in order to compensate for the human visual system's tendency to ignore static retinal images. Oh gods! the fnords! THAT's what they are.

  5. Re:safety by MouseR · · Score: 5

    unlike a CRT's phosphors, our retinas do not have separate 'pixels' for red, green, and blue

    Actually, we do. I dont remember the details, but some of our retina's cones and rods capture only specific colors. Color blind or people are people with disorders of such specific cones and rods, when it's not due to brain issues.

    I'm partly color blind, as I have difficulty seeing yellow.

    When our retina differs from CRTs, however, is resolution, of course.

    One good place I found for info on this is this place, and for info specif to color vision, this sub-section is handy.

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  6. The killer app by rw2 · · Score: 5
    Combine this with stereoscopic imagers and eye tracking. Now the box can map in a virtual environment everything you are seeing in 3d. The next steps are obvious. My favorite is new 'skins' for the things (read, people) around you. Imagine if you could make your boss look like Devin during those hard to stay awake during meetings about the marketing strategy for the new site.

    Add wireless networking and instead of having to look for a band on someones sleeve during a firefight at the local paintball field your box could show everyone who isn't on your team (cause remember it knows where everyone *on* your team is) with their entire body covered in a big bulls eye (hmmm, have to make it smart enough to not do that for the ref I suppose).

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  7. Re:For those without reg... by Snarfvs+Maximvs · · Score: 5

    Um, just replace "www" with "channel" and you don't have to reg.

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  8. "cure" for face blindness? by jesser · · Score: 5

    Combined with face-recognition software, this technology might be a great way to work around face blindness. My life would be a lot easier if people's names would hover over their heads :)

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  9. Be sure to turn off javascript by jesser · · Score: 5

    Otherwise people around you will know that you've been surfing porn by the way you're frantically swatting the air in front of you.

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  10. Yay! More driving hazards! by DrEldarion · · Score: 5

    Are you a soccer mom?
    Are you not content with distracting yourself from driving your Land Yacht with a plain old cellphone?
    Do you hate how you have to miss the current episode of "Days of Our Lives" when you go to pick up little Jimmy from kindergarten?

    Fear not! There is a solution to your problems - A retinal display!

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    God help us all. The thing is, you KNOW there's going to be people who will do just that.

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  11. Eyeball tracking by BaronM · · Score: 5
    I wonder if these are sophisticated enough to track your eyeball so that the image can slew properly if you move your eyeballs without moving you head (which would defeat head tracking). I know I've ready about eyeball tracking systems uses for targeting, mouse replacement, etc; combined with hi resolution retinal scanning, truly immersive VR might be only a few (10 - 15) years off.

    I'd say sooner, but I imagine it will be a while before your average consumer can afford to own a few pair.

  12. Just like old arcades... by oman_ · · Score: 5

    I just hope I don't have old packman mazes burned into my retina when I'm 80.

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  13. Primary display system offline... by plover · · Score: 5
    ...please insert retinas in backup display slot provided.

    Acutally, I liked the idea Neal Stephenson used in Snow Crash: use the laser to rear-project onto translucent goggles the user's wearing. The indirection would keep the user safer from a system malfunction.

    John

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  14. Re:Future implementations - For deaf people by Cyclopedian · · Score: 5
    It's good to see technology like this improving. I had an idea of a specific application for a tech like this back in high school.

    Basically, if you put this with a real-time speech recognition system that was a 1000x better, you effectively have created a wearable "real-time closed-caption" display for deaf people. They would use it in the everyday world whenever hearing people spoke to them, so that they know what a person said. I'm deaf myself and I would love to see something like this in sunglasses form.

    Another application for the above product would be as a language translator for the tourist going abroad in other countries. The system would translate any foreign language into the wearer's native language and display it. Great way to learn the French language. =)

    -Cyc

  15. Re:Lie back by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 5

    Who was the brave soul who first agreed to that insanity?

    Oh my God! They're shining light into people's eyes? What are they, INSANE???


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  16. Medical uses for retinal scanning by SalTerre · · Score: 5
    I actually met Dr. Tom Furness, one of the gentleman who pioneered much of the work in this area at a Medicine Meets Virtual Reality seminar in California. His speeches were fascinating and basically summed up the points of the article, but one story really grabbed my attention.

    After their first 'virtual retina display' was prototyped, they had visitors in their lab looking at the device. One gentleman placed his right eye onto the scanner and went through the demonstration. When he was asked if he was thoroughly impressed with the demonstration, he replied, "Yes, but not with the demonstration itself, but rather the fact that I saw the demonstration with my blind eye."

    The man only had the ability to use 5-10% of his optic nerves in his right eye. So he was partially blind but amazing nonetheless.

    Here are other articles on the subject: an older zdnet story and '98 discover technology award

    -sal terre

  17. These things are pretty wild by Shoten · · Score: 5

    I tried one of these out late last year when Microvision was at the AUSA convention. I wouldn't say that it doesn't interfere with your vision, however; you have a small screen in front of your eye, which is translucent but colored as well. It's a very far cry from just having something appear in your vision as an augmentation to normal sight.

    Also, due to the fact that a small blue laser for this application has yet to be invented (and for that matter, ANY blue laser with a long lifespan that can be used for this application), color displays are quite a long way off. They have the red and green, but blue is a major problem.

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