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A Home For The Technologically Inept

Having to had provide tech support to many people over the years (One of my favorites: But how do I double-click the mouse?), I found the Assisted Computer Facility living place to be a wonderful idea. Just think - an environment where people could /safetly/ learn about the difference between a drink coaster and the CD-ROM drive.

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  1. Sure, it's a joke, but... by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 5
    ...something like this really *wouldn't* be a bad idea. Some people just aren't as technically adept as your average /.'er, and really could use some help learning basic computing skills. This isn't a put-down or anything; I've met some people who are honest-to-God scared of computers, which, in this day and age, isn't good from a professional standpoint in many jobs. A "training course" in something like Windows 9x and computer terminology and hardware would be very helpful for many people (and would also be a good tax write-off for any company willing to provide it on a gratis basis...)

    - A.P.

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  2. Re:E-I-E-I/O by Squid · · Score: 4

    I want to rant about how Apple designs power switches. I love Macs, but admit that Apple has pulled more than its share of stupids over the years. I can't understand why Apple doesn't see the irony in being the company that pushes the envelope of human interface design, yet they can't come up with a single, clean, consistent, intuitive way to TURN THE DAMN COMPUTER ON AND OFF.

    Some of their "winners" over the years:
    - You can't turn off most recent Apple monitors without also turning off the Mac it's hooked to.
    - The Color Classic had NO power button at all.
    - Some Macs have "soft power" and can turn themselves off; others say "It is now safe to turn off your Macintosh." There is no rhyme or reason to which Macs do it which way.
    - Some Macs that say "it is now safe to turn off your Mac" have fiddly tiny power switches on the back that ROTATE. Some with soft power have big, easily accessible rocker switches.

    And the all-time worst Mac power switch:
    - The 610/6100 series cases have a power button about half an inch below the floppy drive. PC users instinctively push it to eject disks. Sadder still was that Apple made TWO PC-compatible Macs with this case style - so even if your brain switches easily from "Mac mode" where you drag disks to the trash to eject them and "PC mode" where you hit a button, you'll STILL hit the power button by mistake.

    If computer companies - Apple and everyone else - would just agree to dispense with the symbols, tricky stuff, and I and O, and settle on a big rocker switch on the front that says "on" and "off", we'd be a lot better off. Obviously I have no problem making the master switch "lockable" by key, and I have no problem with making it a soft-switch, so when you press "off" the computer does a soft shutdown. But damn, for companies that pride themselves on easy-to-use computers, "I can't figure out how to turn the damn thing on" is a surprisingly common complaint.

    Note that I'm not addressing the question of whether we WANT people too dumb to figure out the power switch to actually use the computer. I'm talking about purity of design: if you intend the computer to be easy for a CEO to use, the power switch should not be the bottleneck. Either design the machine to be easy to turn on, or design it so only a trained technician can turn it on, either way be honest about your design goals.

  3. Coasters by booch · · Score: 4
    learn abou the difference between a drink coaster and the CD-ROM drive

    Umm, the CDs are the coasters. The CD-ROM drive is the drink holder. Two completely different tech support issues.

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  4. Could be a problem by alsta · · Score: 4

    Not to be too cynical, but this could just as well be a Bad Thing(tm).

    If we are to de-layer society a little, it is because of the technically inept that I have a job. And all of you that work with technology. If everybody knew how to use nmh/vi/cal (in that order) there wouldn't be a need for Outlook, in which case lots of Responce Center technicians would be out of work. This of course, would apply to several sectors.

    Somebody made a complaint that users are a bit too stupid. Well, yes they are. But remove that stupidity, or just simply raise the bar a little and all of the sudden we would have a myriad of people fairely knowledgeble and a technical elite. This isn't good either, because of market saturation. We need those dummies! Think about that next time you help somebody locate a file in a DOS shell.

    "Knowledge is always good - in moderation." - von Stauffen

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  5. It's not just the users who need this camp by chrisvr · · Score: 5

    See The Chronicles of George. Not everyone who answers the phone at the tech desk is the technology wunderkind everybody here seems to be :-)

  6. Tech Support Woes by Ted+V · · Score: 5

    One of my friends worked in tech support for a while.

    This woman once called him up for help finding a file. My friend was telling her to change directories in a dos prompt:

    "Type this in at the prompt: C - D ..."

    *click* *click*

    "Space"

    *click* *click* *click* *click* *click*

    "Did you just type in S-P-A-C-E?"

    "Space, just like you told me"

    "No, you're supposed to hit the spacebar"

    *click*

    "But you have to delete the old letters first. Hit backspace" *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click*

    I believe things went downhill from there. She never found her file, needless to say.

    -Ted

  7. Liked the Woman who called... by Greyfox · · Score: 4
    And asked for the "Book of Dont's" -- "I got the Book of Dos with the computer..."

    And other life classics...

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  8. How about an ASGF? by Galvatron · · Score: 4
    How about an Assisted Spelling and Grammar Facility, for the ./ crew? "Having to had provide tech support..." is just one example of the desperate need for facilities like this.

    Oh wait, we already have them, they're called spelling and grammar check on the word processor...

    The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned.

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  9. Re:My Internet Woes by dazedNconfuzed · · Score: 4
    how do I change it before my wife gets home?

    Some wife called tech support complaining that her web browser was getting pornographic: the "location" drop-down menu was full of porn-site addresses. The tech guy explained that those only appear if the user has typed them in before. Having a clue, she figured it out and very politely hung up...

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  10. Double click by BlowCat · · Score: 4
    Double click is indeed not intuitive. It probably comes from MacOS since Apple has always been using one-button mouse. But even MacOS sometimes needs to bind more than one event to a mouse click. Unix GUI traditionally avoids double clicks in favor of binding events to different mouse buttons.

    The question about double click is valid and logical. Don't make fools from those who ask it.

  11. 3rd Warning Sign by Drakantus · · Score: 5

    Look at your email address. Does it end in "aol.com"?

    If so, you may be technologically impaired.

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  12. I/O Mode by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 5

    Many years, ago when a 4.7Mhz IBM XT PC was state of the art, I was told to call new customer who had a problem printing, a hardware engineer had already called and the XT & Epson were fine. It must be a problem with the software, so I called the customer.

    The first thing he did was claim the system is not working in 'output mode' " when I ask him to elaborate, he explains he was entering his customer details into the system & it was was working fine in 'I' mode, but as soon as tried 'O' mode to print the details out the system stopped working.

    He kept refering to I and O modes, in relation to entering and printing details. I talked him through some tests of entering some details and trying to print them out. I explored every thing I could think of, he repeatedly reported there was no output, there did seem to be a problem printing. Unusual as we supplied a standardised system of software, XT and epson printer.

    I decide to visit him in person, after all it was time out of the office, when I'm shown the PC, he's in a meeting and can't be with me. I start checking out the PC, quickly print some console output,its fine; I print a report from the application, it rattles out on the printer; it's all fine. I leave the report on his desk and head back. Now firstly remember at this time mobile phones are something out of science fiction movies. So when I get back to the office to find a message, it is still not working, he's been calling every 10 min's for the last hour demanding I return immediately, I do so without even stopping for a coffee.

    On arrival, I'm certain every thing is OK, and it's user error, however he's livid, indeed purple with rage. I'm on tenderhooks, even though I know the system is fine, I need to find out what it is and diplomatically correct it, fat chance in his current mood. I ask me to demonstrate what he's doing. He enters some details, displays them on screen, everything is fine, so far. He then reaches round the right hand side of the PC, and flicks the bright orange button marked 'I' and 'O', I'm stunned for a moment, "NO!! DONT DO THAT!"I shout, but it's too late it's off.

    It's the On/Off switch! instantly it all makes horrifying sense!

    Moral: Take NOTHING for granted when doing end user support!

    I could also tell you about the time I asked an end user to send me copies of their apparently corrupt back-up disks, and I received it by fax, but you simply wouldn't believe it :)

  13. Re:ppl are getting better by FuegoFuerte · · Score: 4

    what's wrong with using my cd-rom drive as a cup holder? it fits those big taco bell cups just great.

  14. tech support by Migelikor1 · · Score: 4

    Though I am not a professional, I have provided tech support to my relatives and neighbors for many years. My favorite anectote was when my mother, (who used to program punchcards) decided that she had broken the internet. While she was vaccuuming the family room, she knocked out the ethernet cable supporting our household LAN. When none of our computers could connect, she called in tears, thinking she knocked out the WWW!

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  15. Thank Goodness! by krugdm · · Score: 5
    Do they give out referral bonuses? I have several coworkers who would be welcome candidates!
    • Everyone who keeps calling their computer the "hard drive"
    • Everyone who doesn't know the difference between RAM and the hard drive
    • People who send documents and use the space bar instead of the tab key for formatting
    • Everyone who can't grasp the concept that you need to actually log into the network to access things on the network
    Where do I sign up?
  16. Finding a file, windows style by BillyGoatThree · · Score: 5

    I was sitting across from my coworker when I overheard this:

    Switch to the File Manager (this was Windows 3.1). OK, now on the menu bar...the MENU bar. Right under the title bar. The title bar is at the top of the screen--it's probably blue, with words in it. Right, there. The menu bar is right under that. No, that's the file list--above that. No, it's not the same as the title bar. It's *below* the title bar. No, that's the file list--look a little higher, but not as high as the title bar.

    This went on for several minutes while we both switched to the File Manager ourselves to see if the menu bar could be hidden or something....
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  17. The scary part is... by SID*C64 · · Score: 5

    I bet there are plenty of people out there who would enjoy such a thing :) Maybe if we created some sort of BioSphere like thing and put all of the AOL users in there... they could all just spam each other.