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Are Online University Programs Any Good?
Landaras asks: "After spending two years at Ohio State studying Management Information Systems, I've decided to take a year off from school. However, after hearing about the University of Phoenix's online Bachelor's program, I thought I would consider completing my four-year Informations Systems undergraduate away from the 'brick and mortar' setting. Does anyone have any experience with completely on-line degree programs, and what are your thoughts of them?"
Did I get a good education out of the process? Absolutely. Were there students passed that shouldn't have been? Probably. But what University doesn't do that to some extent?
UOP certainly targets the "non-traditional" student - and does so much better than traditional Universities. I can't recall anything I had to do that required me to make special arrangements around work to accomplish.
The reality is that you get out of education what you put into it - some of my fellow students were merely after a piece of paper - others were frightfully serious about the process.
I would make a strong suggestion to the original questioner - be sure whatever University you choose is accredited by one of the regional accrediting organizations (WASC, NCA, etc.). Many universities may be available online, but without some sort of valid accreditation, some organizations/employers may not honor your degree.
Hope this helps!
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I agree. The other thought I had was that you are only young once. College puts in you a unique environment where you are with thousands of your peers. If you live among them, you can develop lifelong bonds (which later in life can help you network), and have lot of fun doing it. I'm not suggesting you go to college to party, but I know I would really regret it if I had even lived at home (e.g. with parents) while completing a degree.
Through this additional interaction it is easier for you to get involved in extracurricular activies.
All other issues aside, be prepared to get raped on the credit transfers. About the only time it's not hell is transfering between state schools in the same state. From there it gets worse. Courses may not have equivalents, only be counted for partial credit, not to mention the potential difficulties going from semester to trimester/quarter system.
When thinking about what happened to me, I get to thinking that I would have been better off going to community college and getting an AA for my first 2 years rather than having gone to University.
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CSU Chico in northern California has an online education program for distance students. We used to use satellite based tv for students that were in other areas, but we recently switched to using streaming video. The software package we use is called HorizonLive, and the actual teaching material is presented through WebCT. The sites themselves, if you want to look, are live.csuchico.edu and online.csuchico.edu. They give a quick and easy way for professors to teach (by streaming video, and the minimum speed requirements are 28.8 kbps w/Real Video), a way to interact (live chat), and that's just during the class. All classes are archived as well so students can watch the classes again and again if necessary. There are also bulletin boards, private messages, calendars, online testing, and more. In a nutshell, it gives people who would otherwise never have a chance at getting a degree a chance.
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Fall of 2000 was our second test semester, and the first semester we dropped satellite testing. We offer over thirty classes now, with more coming next semester. You can go to either URL and test out the system, but hurry, the semester ends on Friday
What do I think of it? I think it's great, and if the classes available at this time were classes that I needed, I would take them. Many students on campus take classes that are both WebCT and in person classes, and professors just use WebCT to give tests and post notices and give students a place to interact. With private email, it also makes it very easy for the professor to email everyone in the class. What I also like about the idea is it gives people flexibility in the classes--if you don't want to go to class this morning, don't. Watch the archive. Sleep in until 3 and check your WebCT mail for information on the test. Use the bulletin board to ask someone what you missed. It not only gives people opportunity to go to college when they might not otherwise be able to, but it gives them the flexibility in doing so that many would desire.
My wife attends that university of phoenix in one of their brick and morter campuses. If their online program is anything like their brick and morter I would say stay away! From reviewing her course work, I would label UoP a degree mill. They aren't interested in teaching you anything. Their main focus is building your team working skills. Now, don't get me wrong, team working skills are great and all, but if you are going for an information systems degree, the concentration should be on that. What do I mean by the try and build your team working skills? Every class has a study group with a group project. That is EVERY class. Her college math class had a group project. It consisted of each the team being given a set of math problems and they had to come up with the answers "together."
C olleges_and_Universities/ for starters. There are also several web pages dedicated to this sort of thing, I would recommend checking out the following urls :
It's a complete joke. Also, to keep in mind, the tuition of online courses at UoP is 350 a credit hour. A rip off. You can do better elsewhere.
Speaking of elsewhere, I would recommend checking out your options. There are lots of them. Check out yahoo's directory at http://dir.yahoo.com/Education/Distance_Learning/
http://www.degree.net/ - pushing a book on the subject, but lots of good info.
http://www.lifelonglearning.com/ - lets you search for a degree program you are interested in.
news://alt.education.distance - the newsgroup. once you find a school, check out its rep here.
Hope this helps...
Crewd
Hi,
The following usenet groups are a good source of information about
various on-line or distance leanring programs:
alt.distance.learning
alt.education.learning
Also, both the state of New York (http://sln.suny.edu/SLN), and
the state of Florida (http://www.fsu.edu) are offering on-line
degrees for most of their traditional programs.
Good luck!
Going to University is all about creating foundations.
One of those foundations is the human network you hook into - or at least observe - while you're involved in higher education. If you attend an online simulacrum, how will you get exposure to that broadening diversity of opinion, of experience, of variations in culture that you get from the campus environment?
Online university has its place for those whose lives are so full already (with a full-blown family and a full-time job, for instance) that they really have no chance of fully participating in the university environment, but still need the guidance or kick-in-the-rear motivation that attending a class provides.