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Linus Torvalds on NPR tonight

amortis writes "Heard on the radio that none other than Linus himself will be featured tonight on NPR's show "Fresh Air," which supposedly airs at 7pm EST. You can listen online at the NPR web site, and might be able to find more info at the Fresh Air page (I couldn't)."

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  1. Fresh air is a very good show by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 3

    Terry Gross always makes it a point to know about the things she is going to ask and comes out with a very interesting show.

    Air times will vary by where you live and when your NPR station airs it. But you should be able to get it tomorow from the NPR web site.

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    1. Re:Fresh air is a very good show by hey! · · Score: 3

      I agree, she is quite simply the best. Here's a great salon feature about her: http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/1998/06/cov_22fea ture2.html

      The one time I heard one of her interviews go down in flames was when she interviewed Nancy Reagan, and asked about the astrologers in the White House, and loads of political questions. Reagan was unprepared, and, for once, Gross was unprepared for her being unprepared.

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    2. Re:Fresh air is a very good show by ClarkEvans · · Score: 3

      She did a very good job this time as well. Linus came off like a very thoughtful, grounded person. His discussion of the GPL was a bit muttled, in particular I thought he wasn't clear enough as to what the exact terms of the GPL are... namely that the source code must be made freely available. I also found it interesting that Linus (once again) failed to mention RMS, no suprise here. Linus's characterization of the primary difference between Windows and Linux was very good... he clearly made the point that it is all about freedom of choice and that those using Microsoft's software don't have this choice. Further, his discussion about IBM was very clear. Nice interview.

  2. Re:Unfortunately though.... by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 3

    I listened to it this morning, and I felt that she did a very good job. Its not only important that she understand the idea of "Open source software" its important that those of us listening do too. Ok I know what it is but many people who are listening might not know. So she gave Linus a chance to explain some of the ideas.

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  3. archived link is here by pjones · · Score: 3
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  4. Real Audio file already available by FPhlyer · · Score: 4

    It's right on the page for today's show Taco! With a link to the real audio file. http://freshair.npr.org/dayFA.cfm?todayDate=curren t

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  5. clarification... by sterno · · Score: 3
    Fresh air airs at different times on each station. Here in Chicago it's at 2:00 pm (which means I just missed most of it). so, check your local NPR station to find out for certain when it is

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  6. Shoutcast stream by Levine · · Score: 3

    My local NPR station seems to pretty technologically adept, as they have a shoutcast stream availiable here. The program will air at 7PM EDT, which is in roughly 1 hour and 20 minutes from time of posting.

    http://152.2.63.108:8000/listen.pls for the goatsex weary.

    Cheers,
    levine

  7. Actually... by RallyDriver · · Score: 3

    ..the free (as in beer) RealPlayer 8 for Linux installs very cleanly, comes with an rpm file, etc. etc. Very nicely done.

  8. Re:Where's the .ogg or .mp3 version?? by 1010011010 · · Score: 3
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  9. Re:Where's the .ogg or .mp3 version?? by 1010011010 · · Score: 3
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  10. Todd Mundt too! by passion · · Score: 5

    He seems to be quite the celeb at the moment, as he just talked on Todd Mundt's show almost 2 weeks ago, I grabbed my own copy of the recording

    I also found it interesting how the second half of the show talked about cussing in the workplace, so I did a quick grep on the 2.4.3 source code, and found these results:

    • 112 instances of 'shit'
    • 4 mentions of 'piss'
    • 44 derivatives of 'fuck'
    • 0 instances of 'cunt'
    • 1 mention of 'tits'
    • 2 references to 'dick'
    • 7 occurences of 'ass'
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    1. Re:Todd Mundt too! by wmulvihillDxR · · Score: 4

      How much of those 'shit' instances can be attributed to "Matsushita" CD-ROMs?

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  11. Schedule in Los Angeles by Zaphod+B · · Score: 3

    For all you Linus junkies out there in La La Land... you can hear it at 3:00pm PDT (that's one hour and fifteen minutes from now) on KCRW 89.9 Santa Monica

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  12. Don't look now... by crashnbur · · Score: 4
    ...because the Fresh Air and NPR web sites seem to be taking the slashdot effect negatively. Or maybe the pages just render very slowly.

    The real audio stream of today's show with Torvalds buffered and played fine. Interesting so far... though I'm only a couple of minutes into it.

  13. Re:Air time varies by ennuiner · · Score: 3

    It is 'open source news' in a way, after all)
    I wouldn't go that far - NPR has been pretty aggressive in lobbying against microbroadcasting, and other independent media. Fearing that microbroadcast operators might threaten its monopoly on community-oriented broadcasting, it lobbied the FCC and Congress to keep low-power operations illegal, narrowing the pool of voices you hear on air.
    In a recent article in Seattle's The Stranger, NPR host Ira Glass criticized NPR for being risk-averse and uninnovative, noting there are few young or minority voices in NPR programs.
    I used to be a big NPR supporter, until they began to strong arm the government to exclude other community broadcasters.

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  14. New quote by Lord+Ender · · Score: 3
    At about 23 minutes into the interview Torvalds says,

    "I always thought I was a great programmer even when I wasn't."

    I thank that is a great quote, and it describes perfectly how many people on this forum? :)

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  15. 'open source news'?? by wytcld · · Score: 3

    Considering that former FCC chairman Kennard says that NPR's opposition before Congress was what killed his initiative to legalize micro-broadcasting, should we be urging contributions to NPR stations? True, NPR is a bit to the left, and sometimes entertaining; true, many of the micro-broadcasters would have been evangelical churches on the far right. Still the principle seems all wrong: NPR has helped prevent the emergence of real, local, community-based radio. What with Pacifica Radio in flames, that means no voices more radical than NPR's pleasant liberals will be heard in most of the country.

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  16. I'm impressed... by cvd6262 · · Score: 3
    ...with the interviewer's ability to roll with the punches.

    She starts out saying "Lye-Nus" and "Lie-Nox", and assumes that no one can sell Linux. By the end, she's picked up on how Linus says his own name and the OS', and understands a little better that Open Source is about giving people the same rights you have.

    If you can't listen to the whole thing, listen to her intro, then to the conclusion.

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  17. Unfortunately though.... by erotus · · Score: 3

    ...it appears that the interviewer seemed very clueless about the "open source movement" so to speak. It seemed to me that she didn't grasp some of the concepts, particularly that Torvalds did this for the love of programming and nothing more. She even asked Torvalds if he was some how regretful that he didn't try to "sell" his OS rather than giving it away. Her pronunciation of "Linux" as "Linox" was quite disconcerting as well.

    She also didn't grasp, at least at first, that you can sell free software. Overall, I liked the interview, but I wish the interviewer had done her homework or did she not know where to look for such information. She could have taken the discussion more in depth if she knew more. I do feel that it is good exposure for Linux nonetheless. At the end, it appeared that she was starting to understand the concept of free software. This may mean that the Linux community could do some more PR work in this area.

    I brought up that last point because many people, even IT people don't really seem to grasp or understand the concepts behind free software, open source, and that the value of Linux can't be measured by a price tag on a shrink wrapped box. Microsoft won't go away any time soon and neither will Linux much to Microsofts dismay. Linux is free and far too useful to just throw by the wayside. There are many online docs and how-to's, but we can't insure that people will learn linux effectively. On the other hand, we can work to educate people to understand the processes, ideals, and workings behind the movement. This is perhaps just as important as any how-to document because the community is ultimately what drives Linux and understanding that community is part of the overall learning process.

  18. Air time varies by tomdarch · · Score: 5

    I just heard it on WBEZ (public radio in Chicago). It started at 2:00pm Central time. It wasn't bad, but it was pretty light. Terry (sp?) Gross is one of the best interviewers I know of, but the technical nature of LINUX really got in the way of an in-depth discussion. He (Linus) did have some interesting personal comments on what it was like to ride the rise and fall of an IPO. Check the website of your local public radio station (you are a contributor aren't you? It is 'open source news' in a way, after all)