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VA Layoff Rumors

An anonymous reader noted that Slashdot's Parent Company VA Linux Systems has made an appearance on f'dcompany. I'm sure I'm not the only one who frequents the site, so I won't bother explaining it. The report says that VA is planning a lot of layoffs. Amusingly enough, it also mentions that VA hardware largely powers F'd company. Your guess is as good as mine wrt the truth in this rumor, and what it means if it is.

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  1. Hey Taco!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    This link might be useful very soon for you and the rest of the /. staff! Consider it a token of my appreciation.

  2. What's ESR surprised by now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5
    I can't believe no one has linked to this yet.

    You know, I still own lots of stock in overhyped companies, and when the dot-com crash happened, I lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. But I swear, it was worth it just to know that ESR's shit-eating grin has finally vanished -- you know, that one I imagine he had on while writing Surprised By Wealth, the most insanely arrogant, egotistical, boorish, and self-centered brag piece I have ever seen from someone who has money.

    Fine, Eric. You made money. Great. Lots of people did. But most people don't go shouting from the rafters "Look at me! I have money! And you can't have any! And I will not give any to charity unless they grovel and beg, but don't do that because then I won't give any to you!"

    Whoa, that rant has been building for a while.

  3. Re:Where's the good will? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5
    Come on, you don't see a difference between VA Linux's relationship to the Linux community, and Apple's relationship to the Mac community?

    Apple created something. People then and now loved the product, thought it was insanely great, signed on to Apple's vision and philosophy. And it was Apple's vision, it was Apple's philosophy. They were not only its advocate, but its architect, its visionary.

    How do you figure VA Linux has done anything even close to that for Linux? Linux's first kernels were released in, I don't know, 1990 or 1991. VA Linux did not do that. They weren't even in the first round of commercial companies that did things like sell distributions (e.g. SLS). They are a latecomer, and by the time they were founded there were dozens of other companies just like them.

    Now, don't get me wrong -- VA Linux is a great company, they are giving back to the community, and in retrospect they have distinguished themselves by being more successful. But there is no way they are the heart and soul of Linux. And the death of VA Linux, the company, will absolutely not mean the death of Linux the OS or movement. That is why there is no rallying cry around them like there was with Apple/Mac; because Apple's death would have meant Mac's death, and here the stakes are nowhere near that high.

  4. Re:the source of the fucking by Jason+Earl · · Score: 5

    It's not slashdot that I fear for, as much as I love it. Heck, my productivity would improve quite a bit without slashdot. I am much more concerned about sourceforge.net. There are a lot of important (and not so important) projects going on at sourceforge. I personally think that the Free Software movement would be dealt a substantial blow if we had to go back to relying on Anonymous FTP at sunsite (er... metalab, er... ibiblio).

    I imagine that there is a pretty signficant cost associated with hosting sourceforge.

  5. Doubt it by sharkey · · Score: 5

    Taco wouldn't last an hour. Those menus have to have correct spelling on them, dude. Who is going to buy a Bag Moc, Kwertor Pondar, or Phillay 'A' Phist?

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  6. Re:I just saw cmdrtaco by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 5
    He was carrying a sign that said "will post news articles for food" alongside him hemos, michael, and timothy were stripping the Slashdot

    JonKatz was there also, but his message was so long he could barely fit it on 8 signs ...

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  7. Maybe if they just stopped wasting money... by supabeast! · · Score: 5

    on Jon Katz.

  8. Re:Where's the good will? by elegant7x · · Score: 5

    Well, for me, the primary reason for wishing ill on VA Linux is Eric S. Raymond. The man is a parasite on "Open Source", although he seems to think he's their savior. Raymond holds a seat on VA's board, and his fortunes roll with it. I have no ill will toward VA in general. But I delight in seeing Eric Raymond eat his "I'm rich now ha ha" words. As his once $35 on-paper million dollar fortune drops to below a meg.

    But other then that, there is a real difference between Apple and the crop of Linux companies. With the Mac, everything depended on Apple, and really it was Steve Jobs who designed the thing. But these Linux companies are just making money off something that's already popular. VA does give back to the community, but they also take. Slashdot was around long before VA bought them (or rather the company that /. Sold to. CT initially didn't want to be owned by one of the Linux corps, and refused to sell directly to VA)

    The real and fundamental difference is that without apple, there would be no Mac. Without VA, what do we loose? You can buy Linux powered hardware from most of the major players nowadays, and Most of the commercially produced Linux code is coming out of Red Hat.

    I think a lot of the animosity generated towards VA is caused by the fact that they tried to be 'the' Linux company, getting the stock symbol "LNUX" and everything, buying all the major Linux sites, that kind of thing.

    And of course, employing ESR as their 'corporate conscious' is isn't winning them many brownie points (I hope)

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  9. Re: fp by BlowCat · · Score: 5

    How about LAST post? What if /. closes tomorrow?

  10. Where's the good will? by update() · · Score: 5
    Isn't it funny how much effort VA Linux put into Giving Back To The Community, Showing That They Get It and other such good-will building exercises? And when they run into trouble the open source mob gets a few laughs out of it and moves on without a trace of sympathy? As a Mac user who vividly remembers the "Apple is dying!" era, the contrast to how the Mac addicts responded is really striking.

    Clearly, one lesson is that having one of your board members write an article bragging about how much money he made on the IPO is unhelpful. But could it also be that the way to build a truly loyal user base is to make something that users think is worth paying for, not by telling one's users that they're heros who are owed the world gift-wrapped on a silver platter?

    Unsettling MOTD at my ISP.

  11. just waiting for... by unformed · · Score: 5

    the day when the headline @ fuckedcomapny is...."Rumor has it that FuckedCompany.com is planning on laying off a large number of employees. At this time, employees could not be reached for comment."