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PS2 Hard Drive Announced

An Anonymous Coward writes: "Sony has announced details on their hard drive for PS2 (in Japan, anyway)." It's listed at $150, which puts the PS/2+Hard Drive at around $400 (after rumored PS2 price cuts). All of this is going to matter big time when Microsoft's X-Box storms onto the scene. The article also has information about the keyboard, mouse, and network adapters that will someday also be tethered to PS2s around the world.

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  1. Re:External Harddrive by Shaheen · · Score: 4

    There is a large gaping hole in the back of the PS2. This hole is where the (internal) harddrive plugs into. You can buy the internal one, or the external one which uses a USB port.

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  2. Re:External Harddrive by Shaheen · · Score: 4

    I'm an intern for MS in the XBOX group. (Yes, it's XBOX. Not xbox; Not X-box; Not X-Box; just XBOX).

    There will be no such thing as DX drivers, at least none that the user will ever know about. Microsoft is not that stupid people. Think about it - this is a gaming CONSOLE. Yes, it is certainly a CONSOLE, and not a PC. Sure, it's got the same brand name parts. However, it has a different architecture. It has certain constraints PCs do not have. It has certain benefits that PCs do not have (locked hardware, unified memory, etc.)

    As was stated at a tech talk at MIT by J Allard, there is no real "operating system" for XBOX. All the code that drives the hardware is statically linked with a game executable. And since it's a Microsoft "OS," it has to be huge, right? As of now, this is under a megabyte.

    There. It's a console. It's not a PC. It doesn't really have an OS. There's no such thing as drivers. And stop bitching about XBOX just because it comes from Microsoft. Look past the freakin' name for once and see that MS might just have something good on their hands.

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  3. PS/2??? by Julius+X · · Score: 5

    Am I the only person who saw that and thought "PS/2? Why would someone make a new hard drive for a machine that has been out of production for over ten years??"

    I don't want no steenking hard drive for a IBM PS/2....

    (Taco, take the hint, its PS2, not PS/2, but even then you should probably just stick to Playstation 2...its only a few more letters!)

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  4. Not good. by supabeast! · · Score: 5

    This is not a good thing for Sony. While it is neat to have a hard disk, network adapters, etc. for the PS2, chances are it won't go over well.

    Developers don't like console add-ons, because they facture the market and can lead to low game sales. Nintendo learned this in the 1980s, when their slew of add-ons for the NES in Japan (Even a knitting machine.), and a smaller number of them in the US, flopped. Sega experienced the same problems with their 32X and Sega CD add ons for the Genesis . Nintendo again had problems trying to add high-density media to the N64 system. When Nintendo created a RAM add-on for the N64, it sold well at first, but was eventually rejected with consumers, and the first game to require it ended up being packaged with one.

    Console add-ons are just bad news. Sony will likely end up slashing costs and making crazy deals with developers to get the add-ons support beyond niche games. In the long run, they will fracture their own market and annoy customers. Microsoft will have these features prepackaged without an obvious added cost, and Sony will likely suffer for it.

    Nintendo, of course, will get to sit atop the heap of game companies, leveraging their experience into a strategy that allows them to come out best (Albeit maybe not highest selling.) by marketing a simple, cheap gaming system without much hassle by a proven console company.

  5. Re:Why not just buy a PC? by JohnG · · Score: 4
    There are many reasons. First of all some of us still enjoy the company of actual people. It is very easy to play Mario Kart on a 31 inch TV split four ways in a relatively large living room. Try fitting four people at a computer desk and playing on a 17 inch screen in a smaller room and it becomes a bit harder. 17 inch screen maybe, computer desk maybe, but not both.

    Consoles also make it much easier for developers to take advantage of proprietary "extensions". On a PC the developer can't make extensive use of say Nvidia specific extensions, without providing alternative support for non-Nvidia cards. The models can't be as tessellated as a GeForce 3 card will support without crawling on a Voodoo2. On consoles there is no compromising as all the systems are exactly the same.

  6. External Harddrive by JohnG · · Score: 5
    The picture I've seen showed an external hard drive, I hope if they ship PS2's with a hard drive, they keep this arrangment. The biggest fear I've had of systems coming with hard drives is having to worry about filling them up. External harddrives would function like a big 'ole memory card, allowing you to just buy a new one when you filled the old one up, without having to worry about navigating multiple drives, or taking your console apart.
    Basically I guess what I'm saying is that I want consoles to remain as "carefree" as they've always been. Of course the X-Box, I think is going to hurt that alot, especially if they make you upgrade DirectX drivers, download patches and such, but hopefully Sony and Nintendo will continue to cater to the CONSOLE market and not try to compete with MS in the "innovative" [sic] PC in a little black box instead of a big beige one market.

    1. Re:External Harddrive by zombieking · · Score: 5

      I'm an intern for MS in the XBOX group...

      We are asking you nicely, Mr. Gates. Please stop trolling slashdot. Thanks. :)

      I just couldn't resist that one.

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  7. NDA??? Re:External Harddrive by firewort · · Score: 4

    Did you break NDA by telling use the size of the OS and about certain constraints and no DX components? or is that publicly available...

    Waiting until MS comes and asks CmdrTaco to remove the post...

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  8. Ethernet Adapter already included? by MWoody · · Score: 4
    Taken from Gamespot:
    Sony Computer Entertainment has officially confirmed the release of its hard disk drive for the PlayStation 2 later this month in Japan. The add-on peripheral will serve as a data cache, for faster loading, for more than 20 games, including Final Fantasy X, Jade Cocoon 2, Capcom vs. SNK 2, and Guitar Freaks 4th Mix and DrumMania 3rd Mix, among others. The utility disk for the hard drive will also include the latest CD drivers, with new features such as programmed and shuffled play, and DVD player driver 2.10. The unit, which also includes an Ethernet network adapter, will serve an additional purpose in the future, working in unison with the company's broadband network.

    As previously reported, the pricing for the external drive is set at 19,000 yen (US$153), while the internal one will retail for 18,000 yen (US$145) in Japan. The company is currently taking preorders for the first 10,000 units (7,500 external and 2,500 internal) through its online store, PlayStation.com.

    I saw no mention of an included adapter in the IGN article. Would be very interesting, if true... Might actually come close to warranting that price tag.
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  9. Re:This just in by tmark · · Score: 4

    Yeah, but I would have laughed harder if this guy had a copy of Office XP sent to Richard Stallman. Or if he sent a framed copy of choice pieces of Transmeta class action documents sent to Linus Torvalds. Or if he had a few copies of FreeBSD (or BeOs, or Windows, or Solaris, or any other OS *not* Linux), sent to CmdrTaco, neatly wrapped with VA Linux share certificates.