DotGNU and Mono Continue

saurik writes "After what has been a strange few weeks of converse between the DotGNU and Mono teams (including a small PR SNAFU that involved the banning of a member from the DotGNU mailing list), DotGNU has now announced that they will be forming a partnership with Portable.NET." Frankly I like that there are 2 efforts going on. Maybe one will succeed.

Comments

Microsoft is winning

[Rosco P. Coltrane]

With .NET , Microsoft successfully managed in a very short period of time to :

Make the community disperse its efforts on copying what is little more than vaporware

Make the community look like a bunch of childish "I can do that too" people.

The only thing that comes to my mind when I look at the mono and dotGNU projects is "monkey see, monkey do". One of the projects can't even come up with an innovative name for itself. Well, I'm sorry but copying .NET is just dumb and it plays in favor of Microsoft, who looks like the real innovators that legions of unimaginative free-software geeks always try to copy.

In short, the community has to stop copying and being toyed with by Microsoft, and begin innovating and proving that there are much better things than what Microsoft comes up with.

Why all the confusion for so long?

[dwlemon]

Mono is a GNU port of C# and the CLI runtime. What people think this has to do with authentication, I have no idea.

Porting a language means making it available to another platform. With mono, you can develop C# on gnu/linux. Why is this such a terrible and confusing thing to so many slashdotters? Is the availability of another development platform a bad thing? The only thing that would really bug me is if the KDE team decides to write their own separate implementation. The fact that Mono will be tied to Gnome is iffy, but what are you gonna do? Gnome has to make strides of some kind or another to stand out.

When Gnome says they have customers, I believe them.

I don't give a shit if my Mono applications don't even work on Windows. I'd like an alternative to Java that doesn't feel like a toy.

I don't know if dotGNU is needed. I guess if it means I only need one username and password to log into any sites that have accepted their standard, then that's just super.

But wether or not I am going to be able to go to Amazon.com and identify myself with a dotGNU login, I don't know. Frankly, I don't care.

Mono interests me, dotGNU doesn't.

Re:I like this concept, however...

[acroyear]

Actually, as I stated before, Sun has their own environment they're developing, Sun ONE, and I belive it was announced before .NET. .NET is a reactive strike against Sun just as its key language, C#, is a reactive strike against Java.

Re:Interesting effort...

[The Mayor]

Hold on a second. The architecture Swing uses *is* good. The performance, pre-v1.4, did suck, but that was because Swing was pure-Java. In v1.4, Swing finally utilizes native code to handle optimizations for elements like scrolling. Consequently, jdk1.4 feels much faster, subjectively matching the speed of native GUIs.

Mouse wheel support? It's in there. Check v1.4 of the JDK.

Accessibility (support for the disabled, but in a PC way)? It's in there. Check out the Java Accessibility API.

I'm afraid I don't have any information on how one can utilize the native OS theme for colors and such. Do you have a reference to a bug/feature request in Sun's bug tracker on this one? It may be in v1.4, but I simply don't know. I'd bet it's not, though.

My point is just that you should really give v1.4 a chance. It's quite nice, despite changing a few of the APIs such that many v1.3 programs must be ported (very few changed, but just enough that it's not a simple copy-and-run for programs like Forte).