did youtube and google just totally miss the whole point of chord-cutting is people getting sick of feeling like they're paying for shit channels they never watch?
mind you, it would be nice if it worked. the beta flag had been working perfectly fine at home. here in the office where i'd not turned it on? not so much. my app freezes up on startup.
This is being able to install apps 1) with open APIs rather than proprietary - real localStorage support rather than their hack-job callback crap, for example - and 2) no need to actually submit to a web store for acceptance.
Yeah, eventually somebody need to make a "PWA Store" that catalogs these apps by feature set, but Google's current approach to that is garbage, as it still requires a lot of unnecessary signing and packaging, going against the entire grain of how PWAs were supposed to make deployment and installation easier.
Basically, you hit the 3-dot menu and if all the features are right (manifest, icons, https, and service worker), you'll see the option "Install...". Doing so will add it to your Apps collection, and then when you open it, it'll open in its own window, with its own Dock icon that you can pin.
The most annoying of this was in their version of Horton Hatches the Egg, circa '42 I think. In it, as the boat passes through the ocean, a fish pops out, looks at the elephant, goes "Now I've Seen Everything", and suddenly blows his head off with a revolver out of nowhere. I can't *stand* that gag, but the termite terrace era used it quite a few times.
It is so ridiculously un-Seuss-like, that no wonder it took him 20 years to agree to have another of his stories adapted, and (aside from Friz's Cat in the Hat, which REALLY drifts from the book), actively worked with Friz or Chuck or Bob (McKimson) to make sure it was right.
I forgot it was there when I showed the film to my then 3 year old, because in broadcasts in the 80s, they trimmed it out...but the DVD version still had it uncut.
Now, this is different from what the OP is talking about, which I'm guessing is somebody splicing in this crap into the middle of the 'toon just to be an arse, but yeah, it is a problem with many old 'toons. I wish I was better at editing tools so I could make a copy with that bit cropped out.
Every fresh-out-of-college kid's first jobs are basically fixing the bugs left behind by the architects and experienced coders who either have left the company or have better things to do with their time.
Understanding how to make code changes safe is a vital part of that job, so the sooner a kid (I'm 48, they're all kids) is comfortable with the ways to restructure code safely for fixing issues and adding features, the better. It is a core part of modern software engineering, but is rarely taught in schools, at least not actively.
I developed a habit of this, but would have done so faster and with more confidence had I had the book and the vocabulary in mind.
"It’s the wild color scheme that freaks me out,’ said Zaphod, whose love affair with the app had lasted almost three minutes after the download. 'Every time you try and operate these weird white controls that are labeled in white on a white background, a little white light lights up in white to let you know you’ve done it.’"
Except that doesn't explain why even the tertiary-level MCU films continue to get #300+million every time. They're doing 2-3 a year and seeing no let-up in the audience at all.
Specifically, I make HTML5 music clients for the Subsonic home-cloud service. I explored both Electron and Phonegap (for FireOS delivery, I submit the web app and they produce the apk for me, as well as preliminary testing), and decided neither were worth the trouble. Electron, as noted in the start of all of this, is too heavy. Phonegap requires too many technical steps that gain nothing other than "oh, i'm in the app store"...and being a free app, what do I need the app store for?
In fact, on Android I have MORE features in as a PWA in Chrome, thanks to the MediaSession API, than I would as a Phonegap app, with less memory and space usage.
Yes, a PWA that is just a UI for a cloud service, with no need to save content locally other than configuration, is really just a glorified bookmark (with a nicer page for telling you there's no f'in' net).
But that doesn't mean "glorified bookmarks" aren't without some additional value. Having my apps (or "programs" if some jerk down below wants to be pedantic - it is all "applications" and has been for decades now) be treated as apps, no matter their source, is a useful thing. I see them in my apps folder on my mac. I can launch them through my dock.
On my mobile home screen, they appear as icons without any "bookmark" indicators. I can uninstall them as "apps" in my Applications list in settings (Android 8 and 9, Chrome > M60) to get rid of the icon in all places it might have been added. When I launch, they launch full-screen, no wasted space for address bars, and I can open and close them without having to deal with tabs in my browser ("tabs" are the absolute worst experience in mobile browser experience).
That is, when delivering a product to customers, quite a lot of value, with a much easier delivery platform than the amount of crap you have to do to get an phonegap version of the same through Apple's and Google's (or even Amazon's and Microsoft's) webstores.
And the amount of work to make a web app into a PWA is trivial - copy some generic does-nothing service worker, copy some generic manifest, add a few nice icons. Low cost, high positive *customer* impact in terms of comfort and ease of use. For cloud-based services where no data needs to hit your local drive, it adds a lot of value.
Electron's issue is that it can't share resources. If you are running 2 electron apps, you're basically running two wholly independent instances of Chrome and node.js, in addition to everything else.
Chrome's PWA support alleviates that because it runs the PWAs basically like a tab. The bulk of the browser engine exists in a single memory space.
So given that Microsoft was already starting down the PWA path in Edge + Windows 10 (plus Windows store), it makes me wonder why Electron is even relevant. Proper PWA support makes Electron most irrelevant - a stop-gap transitional measure to show there was an audience for that sort of thing.
Electron is still useful for apps that have to read-write from the local filesystem (editors), as a way to package relatively simple Node.js apps with a GUI attached, but one must accept the resource hogging that goes with it.
Things will change again, but often you can't know all the problems a particular architectural approach (like Electron) will have until you do it. Then use that to come up with something better.
jfs was good, and so was SMIT, their software management tool. No GUI based admin system has ever come close to what they had in 1992 and 1993, from any vendor*...and every time RedHat got close, oh so close, they threw it all away in the next distro and started over. Repeatedly. This constant need for something new instead of actually improving what you have so far has been the killer to desktop linux more than 'apps' are. (yes, I understand much of that is the fact that the services and other features being configured keep changing their file formats in massively incompatible ways and so any parser to provide a UI has to be totally rewritten every 3 months...but that's ANOTHER problem with open source...)
* Chromebooks are only 'good' here because the options they allow you to configure are so few.
I have about 8 email accounts I regularly use, and 7 devices I use (between desktops, phones, tablets - work and personal). I want them to stay separate. I DON'T want Google to get involved in any of them and screw them up or start offering me advertisements on the stuff I'm already spammed with.
With Newton, I could configure that ONCE and then each device I add automatically gets all of those configurations at once.
That convenience (plus the way that Newton could get past my office's firewall that normally blocks the SMTP and IMAP ports) was worth it for me.
Can somebody else PLEASE write an app that can magically do that for Samsung email for phone/tablets and Thunderbird for Mac and Windows so I don't have to go through that living hell of entering in all of those ports and tls settings and all of that crap?
it has an html engine that is based on Word, which means the rendering sucks even worse than IE.
sure, internally it is just fine within your company, but 90% of the world trying to make emails for 90% of the world have to make really crappy emails in order to look even half-way readable on Outlook. their lack of changes in rendering have set the email client world behind just as bad as IE had for 3 Moore's Law generations before Firefox and Chrome finally started moving the web forward again.
The standards for html and css are there, and Outlook has no intention of meeting them.
The rest of the world would like to move forward, thank you very much.
Yeah, this - Thunderbird is old, and 'support' is relative (Zod only knows how much it is keeping up with the Gecko/Quantum html updates from Firefox's team), but it is solid, portable (sorry, Mac Mail), and doesn't suck by using a rendering engine incompatible with most other email systems (hello Outlook, still sitting on a MS Word rendering engine that's 8 years out of date).
I also use Newton on Win10, Mac, and Android, but that's mostly so that I don't have to go and re-enter 9 email accounts/passwords when i just have to enter one. Tbird would be nice if it could do that, have one single login session that shared the other accounts the way Firefox and Chrome do.
when you can't even answer a question or append a comment without already having a "reputation", yet you can't get a reputation without having answered questions, then the site is blatantly restricting it to those who know how to game the system for reputation points rather than actual knowledge on a particular topic.
I'll still use it, but I've given up trying to figure out what the hell it takes to get them to let me comment on something.
The problem with "Makers", and even Tinkerers, is the implication that there must be hardware involved. Makers Fairs in various cities are all about physical inventions, that may have software components or drivers.
Just being a home software hacker doesn't have an applicable word that isn't tainted by the media.
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did youtube and google just totally miss the whole point of chord-cutting is people getting sick of feeling like they're paying for shit channels they never watch?
mind you, it would be nice if it worked. the beta flag had been working perfectly fine at home. here in the office where i'd not turned it on? not so much. my app freezes up on startup.
This is being able to install apps 1) with open APIs rather than proprietary - real localStorage support rather than their hack-job callback crap, for example - and 2) no need to actually submit to a web store for acceptance.
Yeah, eventually somebody need to make a "PWA Store" that catalogs these apps by feature set, but Google's current approach to that is garbage, as it still requires a lot of unnecessary signing and packaging, going against the entire grain of how PWAs were supposed to make deployment and installation easier.
Basically, you hit the 3-dot menu and if all the features are right (manifest, icons, https, and service worker), you'll see the option "Install ...". Doing so will add it to your Apps collection, and then when you open it, it'll open in its own window, with its own Dock icon that you can pin.
Instant 'app', just add water.
The most annoying of this was in their version of Horton Hatches the Egg, circa '42 I think. In it, as the boat passes through the ocean, a fish pops out, looks at the elephant, goes "Now I've Seen Everything", and suddenly blows his head off with a revolver out of nowhere. I can't *stand* that gag, but the termite terrace era used it quite a few times.
It is so ridiculously un-Seuss-like, that no wonder it took him 20 years to agree to have another of his stories adapted, and (aside from Friz's Cat in the Hat, which REALLY drifts from the book), actively worked with Friz or Chuck or Bob (McKimson) to make sure it was right.
I forgot it was there when I showed the film to my then 3 year old, because in broadcasts in the 80s, they trimmed it out...but the DVD version still had it uncut.
Now, this is different from what the OP is talking about, which I'm guessing is somebody splicing in this crap into the middle of the 'toon just to be an arse, but yeah, it is a problem with many old 'toons. I wish I was better at editing tools so I could make a copy with that bit cropped out.
Every fresh-out-of-college kid's first jobs are basically fixing the bugs left behind by the architects and experienced coders who either have left the company or have better things to do with their time.
Understanding how to make code changes safe is a vital part of that job, so the sooner a kid (I'm 48, they're all kids) is comfortable with the ways to restructure code safely for fixing issues and adding features, the better. It is a core part of modern software engineering, but is rarely taught in schools, at least not actively.
I developed a habit of this, but would have done so faster and with more confidence had I had the book and the vocabulary in mind.
...to permanently uninstall "Bixby", it will remain the worst UI and UX in the world, because that should be one of the simplest things to do.
glad i'm not the only one who thought about that reference
"It’s the wild color scheme that freaks me out,’ said Zaphod, whose love affair with the app had lasted almost three minutes after the download. 'Every time you try and operate these weird white controls that are labeled in white on a white background, a little white light lights up in white to let you know you’ve done it.’"
Except that doesn't explain why even the tertiary-level MCU films continue to get #300+million every time. They're doing 2-3 a year and seeing no let-up in the audience at all.
that's nice, dear. now take your medicine like your doctor told you and go back to bed.
...are the professional forensic kits that law enforcement use as bad as this?
Specifically, I make HTML5 music clients for the Subsonic home-cloud service. I explored both Electron and Phonegap (for FireOS delivery, I submit the web app and they produce the apk for me, as well as preliminary testing), and decided neither were worth the trouble. Electron, as noted in the start of all of this, is too heavy. Phonegap requires too many technical steps that gain nothing other than "oh, i'm in the app store"...and being a free app, what do I need the app store for?
In fact, on Android I have MORE features in as a PWA in Chrome, thanks to the MediaSession API, than I would as a Phonegap app, with less memory and space usage.
Yes, a PWA that is just a UI for a cloud service, with no need to save content locally other than configuration, is really just a glorified bookmark (with a nicer page for telling you there's no f'in' net).
But that doesn't mean "glorified bookmarks" aren't without some additional value. Having my apps (or "programs" if some jerk down below wants to be pedantic - it is all "applications" and has been for decades now) be treated as apps, no matter their source, is a useful thing. I see them in my apps folder on my mac. I can launch them through my dock.
On my mobile home screen, they appear as icons without any "bookmark" indicators. I can uninstall them as "apps" in my Applications list in settings (Android 8 and 9, Chrome > M60) to get rid of the icon in all places it might have been added. When I launch, they launch full-screen, no wasted space for address bars, and I can open and close them without having to deal with tabs in my browser ("tabs" are the absolute worst experience in mobile browser experience).
That is, when delivering a product to customers, quite a lot of value, with a much easier delivery platform than the amount of crap you have to do to get an phonegap version of the same through Apple's and Google's (or even Amazon's and Microsoft's) webstores.
And the amount of work to make a web app into a PWA is trivial - copy some generic does-nothing service worker, copy some generic manifest, add a few nice icons. Low cost, high positive *customer* impact in terms of comfort and ease of use. For cloud-based services where no data needs to hit your local drive, it adds a lot of value.
Electron's issue is that it can't share resources. If you are running 2 electron apps, you're basically running two wholly independent instances of Chrome and node.js, in addition to everything else.
Chrome's PWA support alleviates that because it runs the PWAs basically like a tab. The bulk of the browser engine exists in a single memory space.
So given that Microsoft was already starting down the PWA path in Edge + Windows 10 (plus Windows store), it makes me wonder why Electron is even relevant. Proper PWA support makes Electron most irrelevant - a stop-gap transitional measure to show there was an audience for that sort of thing.
Electron is still useful for apps that have to read-write from the local filesystem (editors), as a way to package relatively simple Node.js apps with a GUI attached, but one must accept the resource hogging that goes with it.
Things will change again, but often you can't know all the problems a particular architectural approach (like Electron) will have until you do it. Then use that to come up with something better.
no, to stay close to wall street as they push their cloud offerings to the execs and traders there.
jfs was good, and so was SMIT, their software management tool. No GUI based admin system has ever come close to what they had in 1992 and 1993, from any vendor*...and every time RedHat got close, oh so close, they threw it all away in the next distro and started over. Repeatedly. This constant need for something new instead of actually improving what you have so far has been the killer to desktop linux more than 'apps' are. (yes, I understand much of that is the fact that the services and other features being configured keep changing their file formats in massively incompatible ways and so any parser to provide a UI has to be totally rewritten every 3 months...but that's ANOTHER problem with open source...)
* Chromebooks are only 'good' here because the options they allow you to configure are so few.
reads to me like nothing has changed in their processes for more than 30 years.
you say YES!
I have about 8 email accounts I regularly use, and 7 devices I use (between desktops, phones, tablets - work and personal). I want them to stay separate. I DON'T want Google to get involved in any of them and screw them up or start offering me advertisements on the stuff I'm already spammed with.
With Newton, I could configure that ONCE and then each device I add automatically gets all of those configurations at once.
That convenience (plus the way that Newton could get past my office's firewall that normally blocks the SMTP and IMAP ports) was worth it for me.
Can somebody else PLEASE write an app that can magically do that for Samsung email for phone/tablets and Thunderbird for Mac and Windows so I don't have to go through that living hell of entering in all of those ports and tls settings and all of that crap?
it has an html engine that is based on Word, which means the rendering sucks even worse than IE.
sure, internally it is just fine within your company, but 90% of the world trying to make emails for 90% of the world have to make really crappy emails in order to look even half-way readable on Outlook. their lack of changes in rendering have set the email client world behind just as bad as IE had for 3 Moore's Law generations before Firefox and Chrome finally started moving the web forward again.
The standards for html and css are there, and Outlook has no intention of meeting them.
The rest of the world would like to move forward, thank you very much.
Yeah, this - Thunderbird is old, and 'support' is relative (Zod only knows how much it is keeping up with the Gecko/Quantum html updates from Firefox's team), but it is solid, portable (sorry, Mac Mail), and doesn't suck by using a rendering engine incompatible with most other email systems (hello Outlook, still sitting on a MS Word rendering engine that's 8 years out of date).
I also use Newton on Win10, Mac, and Android, but that's mostly so that I don't have to go and re-enter 9 email accounts/passwords when i just have to enter one. Tbird would be nice if it could do that, have one single login session that shared the other accounts the way Firefox and Chrome do.
Because this one is asking for one of the "Dead Horse" images like none before.
when you can't even answer a question or append a comment without already having a "reputation", yet you can't get a reputation without having answered questions, then the site is blatantly restricting it to those who know how to game the system for reputation points rather than actual knowledge on a particular topic.
I'll still use it, but I've given up trying to figure out what the hell it takes to get them to let me comment on something.
The problem with "Makers", and even Tinkerers, is the implication that there must be hardware involved. Makers Fairs in various cities are all about physical inventions, that may have software components or drivers.
Just being a home software hacker doesn't have an applicable word that isn't tainted by the media.